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most people are on loan programs (or sub). even Apple has its own loan program for people to buy without interest. Without this loan, sales would not be this record high.

That's what I'm saying. With all these $0 down installment and yearly upgrade plans, it practically prevents the market from being over-saturated especially as the standard 2-year contract dies out.
 
“iPhone 6s not sold out in the first ___ hours, including China?? The demand is clearly much lower than expected! The glory of the iPhone is gone. Samsung beat Apple. Apple is doomed, as was correctly predicted.”

You have remember that the vast majority of people who are happy with their products don't participate in these kinds of forums. They don't call Apple. And they don't complain.

I believe that the many of those who participate in these kinds of online forums love to complain, love to bash products and the company that made them, and love to nit pick every little thing. While, when properly done with perspective and intelligence and insight, this can be a good thing, it is more likely and more often to be turned into something that is irrational and simply mean spirited and unhelpful.

There were many that were so anxious to bash Apple, that when it became apparent that Apple wouldn't run out of iPhones as quickly as they had in the past, these folks just had to relish in their predictions that the iPhone 6s was a failure and that Apple was doomed. More intelligent and reasonable people entertained that possibility that Apple had better prepared this time with more stock.

The irrational bashers will never go away. I guess that may be good in that they provide so much entertainment as they continue to embarrass themselves.
 
At the end of the day sales are sales. Who cares if the come at the end of September or in October. If demand is weak it will show up in Apple's quarterly earnings release in January.

For me, I wanted to try out the plus this time around. So I bought the 6s+ and my wife got my 6. I could have saved $100 to get just the 6+, but that $100 saved isn't really worth it in the long run - It's just $100 less that I'll get for it when I sell it to upgrade again, or a year less that I can use it in the future. Buying a year-old iPhone brand new is one of the worst financial decisions to make - Either get the current model, or buy one second hand.
 
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The number could've been 15 million, but that would have had serious implications:
- Apple would have to buy additional production capacity. This will cost a whole lot of money since the capacity is only required to cover the peak demand. This production capacity will be useless in two months. Production halls full of expensive machinery will come to a halt.
- Produce stock in advance. This also will cost a lot of money. Inventory is expensive, especially when you're talking about millions of iPhones.

So 13 million is probably the number the smart guys at Apple calculated to be the most economically viable sales number for the opening weekend. Anything lower = money left on the table, anything higher = also money left on the table.
Makes sense. But then also means this number is kind of meaningless as it isn't really an accurate reflection of demand.
 
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I am walking along happily listening to streaming BeatOne and I open my Camera to take a picture. I have the Live Picture function turned off. The music stops and comes back when I close the Camera App. My old 6 would keep the music playing unless I was shooting video.

With all this processing power I can't believe the phone can't do both! It has to be a software issue, right?
 
You are not being forced to use those shortcuts. Why do you care how others like to do things on their phones?

I guess Apple (and other companies) should not come up with new ways to do things.

Because it's not a feature that's required - it's purely a gimmick. If you need shortcuts to use a phone you should not have a phone - simple.
 
I am walking along happily listening to streaming BeatOne and I open my Camera to take a picture. I have the Live Picture function turned off. The music stops and comes back when I close the Camera App. My old 6 would keep the music playing unless I was shooting video.

With all this processing power I can't believe the phone can't do both! It has to be a software issue, right?

I noticed that too, with Live photos.. I thought it was odd.
 
Are you really this dense? This is not something to make the OS simpler... It's a time saver a productivity booster. It simply makes using the phone more efficient than it was previously. If you don't like it, don't use it.

Productivity booster - and more efficient to use - lol. What your saying is your so lazy you need this function to do what you did previously. It's purely a shortcut - re-branded. If opening an App is too much hard work, go back to pen and paper.
 
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You're ludicrous. Coming in here to rant about features YOU don't care about is absurd. If you don't like something, don't use it.

No, people need to know its not really a feature, and is purely a shortcut which is not required. If you find using an iPhone so "challenging", I can only imagine how difficult it is to another operating system.
 
phones are now your go to computer. I dont see myself not upgrading every year as long as my career continues.

And IMO apple provides the best & most hassle free phone. Glad to see the upward movement in sales every year.
Exactly... I have a MacBook Pro from 2008, will be selling my iPad 2, but just signed up for the upgrade plan so I always have the newest phone. The only piece of tech I use daily.
 
My reasoning is that people are becoming so damn lazy on a phone they now want shortcuts so they don't have to open an App. It's ludicrous.

Wanting to do things faster is being lazy??? Smartphones are built around people wanting to do things faster/easier. Before smartphones, you had to wait until you got to a computer to check your email. Are people lazy for wanting to see their email on their phone and not waiting to get to a computer?
 
Because it's not a feature that's required - it's purely a gimmick. If you need shortcuts to use a phone you should not have a phone - simple.
No one said they needed 3D touch to use their phone. You don't need an iPhone. A 2005 BlackBerry would still do all you need.

Again, why do you care if people like it when no one said you should?

I know why: trolling...
 
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A good result. One thing I do find funny is that they didn’t release Apple Watch numbers though?
Tim already said there are not releasing because giving out any numbers for a new category would be interpreted wrong - once they release the 2nd gen they will know with some certainty what type of sales should be expected.
 
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Because it's not a feature that's required - it's purely a gimmick. If you need shortcuts to use a phone you should not have a phone - simple.

It's certainly not a gimmick.

3D touch can be extremely useful and convenient. For example, games.

Just give it some time. It's just been launched.
 
Nope.

50% discount one month after launch?
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