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Preorders were a full week longer than previously. Thats why sales are higher. Pre-Orders are counted into the launch weekend. Nice trick by Apple by just extending the pre-order period.
Very astute observation.

A great degree of Apple’s success is in its superb marketing. If the competition was only half as skilled as Apple the numbers would be very different.
 
This is certainly a sign that iPhone sales are reaching saturation. If this year's launch followed the same specs as last year's, I am sure that there would have been a decrease in overall sales. But the addition of China and the extra 6 days of pre-order window is certainly what made the "record" possible.

iPhone 6 timeline:
Announcement: Tuesday, September 9, 2014
Pre-Order Start: Friday, September 12, 2014 (3 days later)
On-Sale: Friday, September 19, 2014 (7 days after pre-orders started)

iPhone 6S timeline:
Announcement: Wednesday, September 9, 2015
Pre-Order Start: Saturday, September 12, 2015 (3 days later)
On-Sale: Friday, September 25, 2015 (13 days after pre-orders started)

What!!!!! Did you read the article. The sales number of 13 million are those over the 3 day opening launch. Same as it was last year with the 6 and same as before. Btw, while China was not part of the iPhone 6 launch last year, cause it wasn't yet approved, this year is economic turmoil in China. Thus, this would impact sales there as well and probably won;t be anywhere near as great as what they could have been otherwise. At this point they don;t break down sales figures or growth by region so can't say where those 13MM phones were sold.

Now going back to the extra 6 days of pre-order, what difference does this make? Last year they sold out during pre-order. There is only a finite number avail, So pre-order could be 1 day or 1 month but if the supply designated for pre-order runs out then its immaterial. Apple had issues last year with the screens for the Plus. They probably got their ducks in a row and started production earlier and increased capacity for the pre-orders. They also wanted to make sure that phones were avail at store locations for walk-ins. Something that was an issue last year and other prior launches. They have had a lot of lost opportunity in prior launches with short supply compared to demand. Also to note is that during S years this isn't as much of an issue cause they have had engineering dialed in, since the body style is the same and have had over a year to work components in based on an existing design. Typically its a processor, camera and one other hardware feature. A big difference here is that this years phone has numerous component changes and they still managed to pull it off.
 
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I have to say this again every year. The only reason they keep on breaking the record is they keep adding countries every year. It's all about the papers and Cook is the real opportunistic here. Get all the attention from the media and Apple will be all over the news for a couple days. I can walk to Apple Store today to get an iPhone 6s no problem except for the rose gold.

That's your opinion but I don't see anything malicious about what Apple is doing. These are the launch countries for the last 5 years with the exception of including both China and Honk Kong which is great for everyone involved since that eliminates the scalping and fights outside the Apple stores.
 
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What!!!!! Did you read the article. The sales number of 13 million are those over the 3 day opening launch. Same as it was last year with the 6 and same as before. Btw, while China was not part of the iPhone 6 launch last year, cause it wasn't yet approved, this year is economic turmoil in China. Thus, this would impact sales there as well and probably won;t be anywhere near as great as what they could have been otherwise. At this point they don;t break down sales figures or growth by region so can't say where those 13MM phones were sold.

Now going back to the extra 6 days of pre-order, what difference does this make? Last year they sold out during pre-order. There is only a finite number avail, So pre-order could be 1 day or 1 month but if the supply designated for pre-order runs out then its immaterial. Apple had issues last year with the screens for the Plus. They probably got their ducks in a row and started production earlier and increased capacity for the pre-orders. They also wanted to make sure that phones were avail at store locations for walk-ins. Something that was an issue last year and other prior launches. They have had a lot of lost opportunity in prior launches with short supply compared to demand. Also to note is that during S years this isn't as much of an issue cause they have had engineering dialed in, since the body style is the same and have had over a year to work components in based on an existing design. Typically its a processor, camera and one other hardware feature. A big difference here is that this years phone has numerous component changes and they still managed to pull it off.
Fantastic reply...thanks
 
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I'm usually quicker than this...
 
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Impressive. I find it annoying that the only thing I actually want from the 6s over my current 6+ is the 2gb of ram which Apple should have included last year. Frankly, I dont feel like supporting their actions by hoping over to the 6s... I wonder how much real world faster the 6s would be over the 6 if they both had 2gb ram...

I feel the same way, would still be using the original iPhone if they would have just put more ram and a faster processor. Maybe a little bit thinner, and still support iOS 9.
 
Have to say Apple 5th Avenue had their act together early this morning. I swapped the iPad Mini 4 for something else and was amazed at the how quickly the iPhone reservation line was moving along. And they let people know "no Rose Gold" several times (at 7:00 a.m. no less.)

There was a short line outside, but I've never seen that kind of calm at this store so soon after an iPhone launch. I hope that continues for every product launch.

Not surprised these phones broke sales records.
 
You're basically paying for an extra GB of RAM, a slightly better camera, a slightly faster phone (which barely matters in real world use because the 6 was fast as well), and 3D touch.

I could understand upgrading your current phone to the iPhone 6S or 6S plus if you've owned the 4S,5 or the 5S, but I have a feeling a lot of people ordering the new iPhones are the same ones who upgrade every year, which is a waste of money. I don't understand how 13 million people can buy a phone that's pretty much the same phone as last year with a couple of small tweaks?

Someone should please tell me... Outside of the 3D touch and new "rose pink" color, what makes buying the 6S or 6S plus worth the extra $100-$200 over the 6 and 6 plus?

You know, it's funny you say this because virtually every Samsung phone since the S3 is just a slight tweak to the last and people still buy those. Regardless, you've missed quite a few of the improvements including better vibration, stronger case alloy, stronger glass screen, Hey Siri functionality, etc.
 
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Preorders were a full week longer than previously. Thats why sales are higher. Pre-Orders are counted into the launch weekend. Nice trick by Apple by just extending the pre-order period.

Seriously? You honestly believe that more preorders were ordered without the phone launching? If there was a trick, it was that Apple had a week longer to manufacture...otherwise, you're pulling this out of your...
 
Impressive. I find it annoying that the only thing I actually want from the 6s over my current 6+ is the 2gb of ram which Apple should have included last year. Frankly, I dont feel like supporting their actions by hoping over to the 6s... I wonder how much real world faster the 6s would be over the 6 if they both had 2gb ram...

The ram has more to do with how many apps can stay open than speed. Going from 1 to 2 gigs of the same type of ram in the iPhone 6 will not give you speed gains.
 
You're basically paying for an extra GB of RAM, a slightly better camera, a slightly faster phone (which barely matters in real world use because the 6 was fast as well), and 3D touch.

I could understand upgrading your current phone to the iPhone 6S or 6S plus if you've owned the 4S,5 or the 5S, but I have a feeling a lot of people ordering the new iPhones are the same ones who upgrade every year, which is a waste of money. I don't understand how 13 million people can buy a phone that's pretty much the same phone as last year with a couple of small tweaks?

Someone should please tell me... Outside of the 3D touch and new "rose pink" color, what makes buying the 6S or 6S plus worth the extra $100-$200 over the 6 and 6 plus?
Unless you are holding both phones to see the difference these "small tweaks" make you comments make no sense.
I have both phones in my hands and I can tell you the difference is dramatic and they didn't raise the price so where do you get the "extra $100-$200" from?
 
I could understand upgrading your current phone to the iPhone 6S or 6S plus if you've owned the 4S,5 or the 5S, but I have a feeling a lot of people ordering the new iPhones are the same ones who upgrade every year, which is a waste of money. I don't understand how 13 million people can buy a phone that's pretty much the same phone as last year with a couple of small tweaks?

It's OK if you don't understand. A lot of people just want to spend money on things they want. It's their money. There is nothing wrong with that.

Someone should please tell me... Outside of the 3D touch and new "rose pink" color, what makes buying the 6S or 6S plus worth the extra $100-$200 over the 6 and 6 plus?

It's the same price as last year's 6/6+. It's not an extra $100-$200.
 
Preorders were a full week longer than previously. Thats why sales are higher. Pre-Orders are counted into the launch weekend. Nice trick by Apple by just extending the pre-order period.
Why does it matter how long pre-orders were? It's not like if the pre-order window was a week less fewer people would've been able to buy the phone. Whether someone went online on the 12th to place an order or did it a week later they weren't getting the phone until the 25th as that's when the phones officially went on sale.
 
You know, it's funny you say this because virtually every Samsung phone since the S3 is just a slight tweak to the last and people still buy those. Regardless, you've missed quite a few of the improvements including better vibration, stronger case alloy, stronger glass screen, Hey Siri functionality, etc.

The latest Samsung phones have 4K video, 2K screens, 15nm chips, fast charging, wireless charging, and other upgrades The latest phones have been upgraded from plastic to glass, and you have the option of choosing a curved screen or the traditional screen, which are more useful features than 3D touch. I'm not a fan of Samsung phones, but it's hard to ignore the obvious.

The latest SONY phones have a 4K screen, two days of battery life, a metal/chrome design, waterproofing, and more.

Apple hardly put a dent in anything exciting with their phones this year.
 
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