iPhone 6s Rumored to Include 2GB of Faster RAM and 'Force Touch' Technology

[occollegeboi420]

For those who think 1 GB of ram is plenty.... I hope you like only being able to have 8 safari tabs open lol! The reason apple only allows 8 tabs is because 1gb of ram can't handle more than 8 tabs.

And isn't ddr4 like at least a year old technology? Pretty slow compared to other ram available.

 

[Col4bin]

Can't wait for the newly designed iPhone 7!

 

[Tycho24]

The obvious one to me is haptic feedback when interacting with on-screen elements of various types. You may receive a different type of feedback for a force touch, tap, swipe, etc.

- Imagine that you're taking photos and the phone is ever-so-slightly providing feedback that feels like the shutter on a fine camera.
- The rubber banding effect when reaching the end of a list is paired with a snap-back sensation from the device.
- Interactive apps like games could certainly make use of new feedback methods

Just a few off of the top of my head.

Ah, I see...
Haha, my misunderstanding... I thought you meant in REPLACEMENT of the current vibration tech to attempt to do the same job.
To clarify... I agree that as an ADDITION to current vibration notifications it would be freaking sweet as you've described here!

However, I see a minor obstacle. If I'm understanding correctly, whereas the force touch tech "lives" in the screen in the watch, it appears that the taptic feedback engine "lives" pressed against the back of the watch, against the metal that touches your wrist... presumably to best transmit the energy from the actuator to your wrist in the form of a tap. Now, from what Apple has said, there will be two or more "zones" that you can feel and differentiate the tapping. For example, allowing you to know whether to turn left or right at at upcoming stop, via GPS directions. All this is VERY impressive to me & I'm quite excited... That being said; it is a HUGE leap from that to a feedback engine that can effect a screen the size of an iPhone 6 or 6+ at the many, many, many points necessary for it to feel accurate & also have it engineered to fit in with the current bleeding edge tech of iPhone displays as another layer, as it would obviously in this instance need to be closest to the screen/part of the screen for the effect to work... as opposed to the Watch, where it is the component furthermost from the screen.

 

[Pagemakers]

Getting so bored of this cycle.

I'm so disappointed with iPhone 6 and IOS 8 so for the first time in years I won't be doing my usual mid-year update.

 

[apolloa]

Hahaha a DSLR quality camera. Not with a pin head sensor and only 8mpx it won't be. As for 2GB ram, well as they say on here they have to keep something back for the new sales.

 

[B4U]

2GB of RAM...

 

[Tech198]

2GB of RAM...
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hehe.. Its sure is ....

(Is that my bedroom .?...)

 

[Playgear]

Second, Apple could then use new hardware so that on an iPhone 7 you "force" touch by pressing harder, and when the hardware isn't there, it could be a long touch.

Sadly that won't always work. If you were to 'Force' touch on the home screen, it would be different to 'long' touching and simply making the icons jiggle.

 

[dav1dd]

That force touch sounds more like iPhone 7 tech to me - not an S model spec bump.

 

[BeauPaul]

Crap - I just bought a Canon 70D

 

[Michael Scrip]

Crap - I just bought a Canon 70D

I have a Canon 70D too!

But while I use my iPhone as an "always with me" camera... my Canon will certainly do some things better.

 

[HKZ/MST3K]

If your phone is having that kind of trouble, you need to return it or take it to the Genius Bar for repair or replacement.

Not all iPhones have problems.

All of my problems come from iOS 8 being a POS update. Even a clean install it freezes, lookups, requires a hard restart and has all kinds of stupid non responsive behavior problems. I don't know a single person with a new 6 or 6 Plus that doesn't have a single issue. If they say they don't they are lying because every single phone that can run iOS 8 has problems with the idiotic bugs in it they just don't want to admit it.

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For now it does absolutely give a good experience.

It absolutely does not give a good experience. Safari has to reload every time I open it, and any app that is put in the background is reloaded as well. There is not enough RAM for iOS 8 to function properly and Apple has had a history of not putting enough in their phones. The bug cause far more serious issues that Apple is completely ignoring, but the amount of RAM in the iPhone is nowhere near enough. Not even close.

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I have a hard time believing all your problems, and if you do why don't you return the phone or get it fix. I doubt if most iPhone 6 have that much problem as your claim, people would put up with it. We have 4 iPhone 6 in the family and don't have ANY problem with ours.

Ah yes, the "I don't have any problems so you must be lying" defense. Can't ever have a thread where someone comments on having problems without someone using anecdotal evidence to try and say the other persons anecdotal evidence is false. The fact is that iOS 8 is full of stupid bugs that Apple isn't fixing. The quality of iOS has been on the downward trend since iOS 6, there is no refuting that.

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And IOS 8.1 has no glitches or broken software, especially air play. If anything a few bugs, but substantially less than Android Lollipop.

You must be trolling. You have to be. iOS 8 is FULL of bugs in every app and in every interaction the user has with the phone. There is ZERO truth to your statement. iOS 8 has BY FAR been the most buggy and broken update that iOS has seen so far. There is no truth to iOS 8 having no glitches or broken software, none whatsoever.

 

[Apple_Robert]

All of my problems come from iOS 8 being a POS update. Even a clean install it freezes, lookups, requires a hard restart and has all kinds of stupid non responsive behavior problems. I don't know a single person with a new 6 or 6 Plus that doesn't have a single issue. If they say they don't they are lying because every single phone that can run iOS 8 has problems with the idiotic bugs in it they just don't want to admit it.

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It absolutely does not give a good experience. Safari has to reload every time I open it, and any app that is put in the background is reloaded as well. There is not enough RAM for iOS 8 to function properly and Apple has had a history of not putting enough in their phones. The bug cause far more serious issues that Apple is completely ignoring, but the amount of RAM in the iPhone is nowhere near enough. Not even close.

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Ah yes, the "I don't have any problems so you must be lying" defense. Can't ever have a thread where someone comments on having problems without someone using anecdotal evidence to try and say the other persons anecdotal evidence is false. The fact is that iOS 8 is full of stupid bugs that Apple isn't fixing. The quality of iOS has been on the downward trend since iOS 6, there is no refuting that.

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You must be trolling. You have to be. iOS 8 is FULL of bugs in every app and in every interaction the user has with the phone. There is ZERO truth to your statement. iOS 8 has BY FAR been the most buggy and broken update that iOS has seen so far. There is no truth to iOS 8 having no glitches or broken software, none whatsoever.

I have a brand new iPhone 6 as of 1/9/15 and I haven't had any of the problems you listed. Granted, the OS isn't perfect. Just the same, it hasn't kept me from enjoying the use of my iPhone.

Calling everyone a liar, who states contrary to your logical fallacy, isn't going to cut it.

 

[mi7chy]

Who needs more than 1GB DRAM? It works great.

http://youtu.be/d7pEgZ-SIVI

 

[Asia8]

1 GB of RAM is really sad for such an expensive phone.

Apple really needs to up their game if they want to continue to keep their market share and grow it. I'm considering getting a Xiaomi as my next phone, even more so if this is what the future iPhone model will have.

The future flagship model has less ram than their competitors current model, and it's priced so much more.

I really hope this is a wrong rumour.

 

[littyboy]

For those who think 1 GB of ram is plenty.... I hope you like only being able to have 8 safari tabs open lol! The reason apple only allows 8 tabs is because 1gb of ram can't handle more than 8 tabs.

And isn't ddr4 like at least a year old technology? Pretty slow compared to other ram available.

Kind of tired of the "1GB ram of plenty" response. Those people never want the iphone to advance or something. They should know (and understand) that apps are limited by hardware limitations. Always better to get upgraded hardware to future proof oneself.

 

[QCassidy352]

Well coming from a galaxy s4 that had a 13 mp camera was a downgrade.

Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, your original point was that the iphone 6 should have had an upgraded camera... and it did.

For those who think 1 GB of ram is plenty.... I hope you like only being able to have 8 safari tabs open lol! The reason apple only allows 8 tabs is because 1gb of ram can't handle more than 8 tabs.

8 tabs is more than enough for me. I guess it'd be better if more were possible for other users, but i rarely have more than 3 at a time, so I'm good.

 

[HKZ/MST3K]

I have a brand new iPhone 6 as of 1/9/15 and I haven't had any of the problems you listed. Granted, the OS isn't perfect. Just the same, it hasn't kept me from enjoying the use of my iPhone.

Calling everyone a liar, who states contrary to your logical fallacy, isn't going to cut it.

I have a brand new 6 Plus as of two weeks ago after exchanging it for the same buggy behavior and it still hasn't gone away. Both phones had a clean install of the OS and I've had nothing but buggy behavior on all first and third party apps. My favorite bug is the touchscreen becoming 100% unresponsive 5-10 times a day and the only way to get it to respond is to lock and unlock the phone before it responds. I don't see how Apple considers that acceptable behavior when their customers buy an $800 device from them.

As for the logical fallacy, I was trying to demonstrate the absurdity of telling other people that they have to be lying when they say they have problems. I understand that it isn't universal, not all behavior is, but the undeniable truth is that iOS 8 is rife with bugs and they are very widespread. Even on my brand new phone with a clean install I have all kinds of stupid bugs, and the OS shows that it's undeniable that 1gb of RAM is not enough.

 

[pdaholic]

how could you possibly watch both a small movie window and read a browser window at the same time?

Point taken. I've got a friend with a Note 3 who can do just that though. There's actually a lot of interesting things he does with the multitasking features of Android. He can have google maps open along with his music player, sitting in a window suction holder while he drives. He can have a browser with a note taking app open at the same time. Lots of possibilities for multitasking despite the small screen.

 

[a0me]

Having only 1GB ram is laughable at this point.

Apple has it's hands in so many pies at this point, the phone doesn't work as advertised, i.e. broken airplay, it gets hot as s#h!t when too many apps are going, the constant glitches in software.

Only good things can come from this.

The lack of RAM isn't the cause of your issues. You are right that 1GB of RAM in a high end model is ridiculous for a number of reasons, but it's very unlikely that the issues you are experiencing are caused by the lack of RAM.

 

[MacAddict1978]

Apple: The new viagra for those looking for more RAM.

nah, those people bought Androids years ago that had more standard.

 

[kdarling]

If we're already looking at fading technologies from the watch into the phone, I'd suspect the taptic engine may have real benefits over the traditional vibration motor found in phones today.

The haptic engine in the Watch uses a linear actuator.

Some manufacturers switched from motors to actuators years ago.

Samsung switched years ago, starting with the Galaxy S3, I believe. Apple switched with the iPhone 6:

The obvious one to me is haptic feedback when interacting with on-screen elements of various types. You may receive a different type of feedback for a force touch, tap, swipe, etc.

- Imagine that you're taking photos and the phone is ever-so-slightly providing feedback that feels like the shutter on a fine camera.
- The rubber banding effect when reaching the end of a list is paired with a snap-back sensation from the device.
- Interactive apps like games could certainly make use of new feedback methods

Just a few off of the top of my head.

Those are pretty good examples.

This article from mid 2012, Customizing the Samsung Galaxy S III’s Auto Haptic Feature, mentions some as well:

"The Samsung Galaxy S III has finally arrived, and its got an advanced feature called Auto Haptic that uses vibration to create engaging physical response in downloaded 3rd party apps.

"With Auto Haptic, you can feel the sling stretch as you fling an angry bird and feel the impact of a grenade explosion in a first person shooter game (be sure to check out our list of recommended apps that work great with Auto Haptics!)

"Auto Haptic is based on Immersion’s Reverb technology, which automatically creates haptic effects by monitoring the application’s audio track.

"In most Galaxy S III handsets, the feature is turned off by default, but the settings menu gives users flexibility to use Auto Haptics only in apps that you want."

 

[eoblaed]

For those who think 1 GB of ram is plenty.... I hope you like only being able to have 8 safari tabs open lol! The reason apple only allows 8 tabs is because 1gb of ram can't handle more than 8 tabs.

And isn't ddr4 like at least a year old technology? Pretty slow compared to other ram available.

Uh, what? I currently have 14 tabs open on my 6Plus. I often go up to 20. And it handles it just fine.

iOS stopped constraining the number of tabs a long time ago (iOS 7).

For the record, I'm certainly not opposed to more RAM, but the hyperbole around 1GB is a bit silly.

 

[occollegeboi420]

Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, your original point was that the iphone 6 should have had an upgraded camera... and it did.



8 tabs is more than enough for me. I guess it'd be better if more were possible for other users, but i rarely have more than 3 at a time, so I'm good.

Maybe 8 tabs is enough for you....but if you were given the option to have more than 8 I'm sure you would come to a time when you DO need 8 tabs open. Don't be so quick to downplay something.

Ram is like shelves in your pantry. The more ram you have the more shelves you have. The more shelves you have the more food you can hold at one time. The more the merrier, right?

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Uh, what? I currently have 14 tabs open on my 6Plus. I often go up to 20. And it handles it just fine.

iOS stopped constraining the number of tabs a long time ago (iOS 7).

Oh, ok. I stopped using the iphone back on ios 6. I still have my old iphone 4 on ios 6. I didn't know you can have more than 8 tabs open.

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Uh, what? I currently have 14 tabs open on my 6Plus. I often go up to 20. And it handles it just fine.

iOS stopped constraining the number of tabs a long time ago (iOS 7).

For the record, I'm certainly not opposed to more RAM, but the hyperbole around 1GB is a bit silly.

Maybe so, but I mean come on. At this point in the spec's technology game, Apple only putting 1gb of ram is like a slap in the face to customers at this point considering other phones have had 2 gb of ram for quite some time now.

 

[JoEw]

And isn't ddr4 like at least a year old technology? Pretty slow compared to other ram available.

funny.