This is funny too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_DDR#LPDDR4
So when was lpddr4 invented again? Not anytime recently!
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iPhone 6s Rumored to Include 2GB of Faster RAM and 'Force Touch' Technology
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This is funny too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_DDR#LPDDR4
So when was lpddr4 invented again? Not anytime recently!
I totally agree with this. Those are the same people who say "4.7? 5.5? Please! 4in is big enough!" Or "iPhone doesn't need a higher resolution display! The 2010 retina display is good enough! You can't see a difference!" Or "8MP camera is good enough! Anything higher is useless! iPhone doesn't need 4k recording either! 1080p is good enough!" If it were up to those same people, the retina display would have never even been a thing b/c the display on the 3GS and down would've been "good enough" If it were up to those people, the iPhone would still have a 5MP/720p camera b/c anything higher would be overkill for a phone. Bottomline, I (just like you) wish people would let the iPhone advance and stop saying "oh the iPhone doesn't need *insert awesome feature* b/c *current feature* is good enough" Just let the damn phone advance and stop trying to always put a limit on it.
most of us will upgrade if it comes with much more needed RAM but it's not enough of an upgrade isn't?
invented is different than implementing in millions of devices. Some technology takes up to 10 years to scale to mass production.
Desperately hoping they fix up and smooth out the awful protruding camera lens on both models.
Sometimes there are tradeoffs between design and hardware, but I don't understand how that could pass the board and they'd be ok with it.
Sometimes there are tradeoffs between design and hardware, but I don't understand how that could pass the board and they'd be ok with it.
I love how so many people replied to my post not knowing yes i have an iPhone and no, its not a 6 or 6+, it's a 5S.
I guess i should elaborate on my issues for those naysayers.
Broken airplay, when i try to stream something to my apple tv, it will load just fine, and play fine. any notification or text kicks it off, or even a youtube vid that should JUST play on the phone will stop whatever it is thats streaming. A simple VINE or FB vid that auto plays messes up airplay and it doesn't connect again. Unless it was made to work like that, its laughable.
My phone has ALWAYS gotten hot, even with screen at half or less brightness. Its absurd how people don't notice this or don't care? Is the batter fu%ked up or what??
The software is EXTREMELY buggy, from apps that freeze up or that growing 'other' file that gets bigger by the day, to the terrible fonts that overlap in numerous menus and safari.
I am content with my iPhone but these annoyances are my own view of things that should be fixed rather than flirting with keeping phones slim, or apple pay or any other novelty they are touting.
I guess i should elaborate on my issues for those naysayers.
Broken airplay, when i try to stream something to my apple tv, it will load just fine, and play fine. any notification or text kicks it off, or even a youtube vid that should JUST play on the phone will stop whatever it is thats streaming. A simple VINE or FB vid that auto plays messes up airplay and it doesn't connect again. Unless it was made to work like that, its laughable.
My phone has ALWAYS gotten hot, even with screen at half or less brightness. Its absurd how people don't notice this or don't care? Is the batter fu%ked up or what??
The software is EXTREMELY buggy, from apps that freeze up or that growing 'other' file that gets bigger by the day, to the terrible fonts that overlap in numerous menus and safari.
I am content with my iPhone but these annoyances are my own view of things that should be fixed rather than flirting with keeping phones slim, or apple pay or any other novelty they are touting.
The only people that even know how much RAM their phones have are people that pay attention to all the fine points of the specs. This is a very small subset of the customer base. Very few people feel like they're getting slapped in the face. You know what they're far more aware of? Their battery life. Additional RAM does have an impact on battery life.
And, of those that do know how much RAM their phone has, there's a certain percentage that don't care as long as the phone is doing its job. Some people get really bent out of shape with safari page reloads. Some don't give two tinkles about it. I'm in the latter category.
I'm all for advancing capabilities. Just be aware that some advances require offsets in other areas, where those offsets may take the form of additional cost, bulkier form factor, decreased battery life, etc. Some people are acting like the iPhone having 2GB, 3GB, or even 4GB of RAM is going to give it super powers beyond what it already has. It won't. It'll smooth out some wrinkles here and there, and I'd like that to happen, but it's not going to transform the device in huge and wondrous ways.
Of course that's a far-fetched idea and pretty much impossible but still, I see only snark in this thread instead of the potential for improved image quality offered by two sensors, namely Apple's very own patents filed last year that explains it. Surprised that even a mod or the article writer doesn't remember this.
Apple files patent for dual-sensor camera design
HTC had a camera with two cameras that used it for shallow DoF which is a neat idea on its own but the cameras were disappointing overall.
That's incorrect. Apple had already switched to the linear actuator with the iPhone 4, more accurately the Verizon iPhone 4 more than a year before the Galaxy S3. They stayed with it for the iPhone 4S then switched back to the rotation motor with the iPhone 5 before switching back again with the iPhone 6.
Sounds like you got a lemon.
That aside, I'd like to argue that Apple Pay is definitely not a novelty. With there being almost monthly reports of some other huge chain getting their card readers hacked, exposing millions of people's credit/debit card information to cretins out there, the fewer places I can expose my personal payment information (eg. cc#, etc) to, the better off I'll be. The better off we'll all be. I use Apple Pay everywhere I can. Parallax? Novelty. Apple Pay? A sorely needed paradigm shift that will help secure our money against would-be thieves.
Force touch has nothing to do with the display being flexible. The sapphire is not going to bend, and the video even mentions sensors "around the the display", just like in their patent detailing multi-touch combined with traditional, pressure-centroid touch tech. It's like resting the ends of a plank on two scales and guessing where you're standing on it by comparing the weights. It's old, innaccurate tech, but combining it with multi-touch is novel.
The video is confusing, but they probably just mention that OLED is flexible to brag about the lamination process, and maybe to intentionally make force touch sound cooler than it is.
Safari page reloads use bandwidth/data. If you're multitasking a lot, and going back to safari, that's a lot of bandwidth.
When I worked in retail (joann fabrics, hated that job) people would come in with their iphones with the joann app. EVERY time someone had a problem loading up the app, I would help with their phones. First thing I would ask is how many apps they have in the app switcher. They had no idea EVERY TIME. When I would open it for them, there would always be a MILLION apps, taking up tons and tons of memory. As soon as they closed all those damn apps the joann app would load INSTANTLY.
So yah, these are the people who don't know anything about ram and don't care about ram or specs. It's fine if some people don't care about ram or specs. But you see, if their phones had MORE RAM they wouldn't be having these issues with slow app loading. Literally, the joann app would never load until people cleared out their open apps. I mean if apple really wanted to make the iphone so easy to use they would have kept the 3.0 style of apps not being backgrounded, it's not like they really truly are anyway.
Yah, that's such awesome ram management...and I"m being facetious.
So yah, most people don't care about ram or specs but the same people don't even know basic things about their phones to make it faster. Oh yah, the iphone is perfectly fine with only 1gb of ram.
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I've owned every iPhone except the 5S. The iPhone 6 Plus is the most unpleasant to use by far. Not just that it's a little on the big side for me, but the thing is just buggy and crashy. I'm jumping all over the regular sized iPhone 6S. My iPad Air 2 is great with the extra RAM.
I've been saying for a while now that I think the iPad might get force touch for new gestures (maybe to activate split screen multitasking?). I've also said that force touch could be used on future iPhone screens (with Touch ID built in per the patents) instead of a home button because eventually those will go away with slimmer devices with smaller bezels. This is a step in that direction. A longer term plan. Apple does this in steps to get people familiar and used to it over time. Then it becomes a natural progression. It's a brilliant strategy.
Can't wait to buy the hell out of the iPhone 6S and throw my iPhone 6 Plus put the window.
I've been saying for a while now that I think the iPad might get force touch for new gestures (maybe to activate split screen multitasking?). I've also said that force touch could be used on future iPhone screens (with Touch ID built in per the patents) instead of a home button because eventually those will go away with slimmer devices with smaller bezels. This is a step in that direction. A longer term plan. Apple does this in steps to get people familiar and used to it over time. Then it becomes a natural progression. It's a brilliant strategy.
Can't wait to buy the hell out of the iPhone 6S and throw my iPhone 6 Plus put the window.
You forgot about the battery. The iPhone has great battery life! It doesn't need a bigger battery!
How about a design that doesn't suck? I guess we'll have to wait till version 7 at a minimum for that
Safari page reloads use bandwidth/data. If you're multitasking a lot, and going back to safari, that's a lot of bandwidth.
When I worked in retail (joann fabrics, hated that job) people would come in with their iphones with the joann app. EVERY time someone had a problem loading up the app, I would help with their phones. First thing I would ask is how many apps they have in the app switcher. They had no idea EVERY TIME. When I would open it for them, there would always be a MILLION apps, taking up tons and tons of memory. As soon as they closed all those damn apps the joann app would load INSTANTLY.
So yah, these are the people who don't know anything about ram and don't care about ram or specs. It's fine if some people don't care about ram or specs. But you see, if their phones had MORE RAM they wouldn't be having these issues with slow app loading. Literally, the joann app would never load until people cleared out their open apps. I mean if apple really wanted to make the iphone so easy to use they would have kept the 3.0 style of apps not being backgrounded, it's not like they really truly are anyway.
Yah, that's such awesome ram management...and I"m being facetious.
So yah, most people don't care about ram or specs but the same people don't even know basic things about their phones to make it faster. Oh yah, the iphone is perfectly fine with only 1gb of ram.
So... what you're saying is that they could run a ton of apps, but the Joann app required so many resources, you virtually had to clear the phone of anything it was keeping track of to run it?
Sure, throwing more RAM at a device would help that, but so would writing an app that wasn't an obnoxious hog. Doubling or quadrupling your RAM isn't going to inoculate you against poorly behaving apps -- it only means it takes a few more to cause you problems. Part of being a good software developer is understanding the resource constraints you're under and not abusing them.
Another reason why I have bought EVERY iphone on launch day - to have the best features all the time. You are short changing yourself buddy
That's such stupid logic. Don't buy the 6S because the 7S will be out later but don't buy that because the 8S will follow after it so wait and get that instead..... but wait, just wait for the 9S instead.......
I hear the 2050 Ford will be better than this current 2015 model so you should wait and get it instead.
Let clarify on what I am saying here. I buy 'S' models because they tend to have really good internals and tend to have far better performance over the previous model. For example, the iPhone 5s and 6 are basically on par when it comes to real world performance and they both have 1GB of RAM. The only thing that really compels people IMO to upgrade to the iPhone 6 from the 5s is the bigger screen and the new design. The 'S' models usually have the new technologies that will become standard on the rest Apple products overtime e.g Touch ID. And for the person, that called my logic stupid I did not imply that I would not buy the iPhone 6S because the iPhone 7S will come out later. What I am saying is IMO I like to buy the 'S' upgrades and usually only buy the non-mid cycle if I find it worthwhile.
P:S I am not only talking about the RAM upgrade but, also the potential CPU upgrade. If, the 6S has a the A9 process and it has similar performance to the A8X then it would be a major upgrade over the iPhone 6. E.g performance from the iPhone 5 - 5s 2X faster at CPU tasks. The iPhone 5s - 6 around 25% percent. Do, you see where I am coming from now?
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nope, I hope for 2gigs ram, BUT 4inch form factor is a must for me, i need phone, not big brick that is not serviceable with one hand and that is somehow "slippery" and prone to fall from my hand.....
nope, I hope for 2gigs ram, BUT 4inch form factor is a must for me, i need phone, not big brick that is not serviceable with one hand and that is somehow "slippery" and prone to fall from my hand.....
Yes this happened with the 6 but I don't think it's happened enough for it to be a rule. For example, the 5 had twice the RAM as the 4S and the CPU was 2x faster too. As an aisde, although the iPhone 6 was only 25% faster, this reflects a general trend in CPUs, where performance gains are secondary to power efficiency. The iPhone 6 CPU uses 50% less power than the 5s.
You can hope they will also release an iPhone 6c at the same time: 4" with an A8 processor and 16/32GB of NAND. Hopefully using the same premium design as the 6 body but probably in plastic with hundreds of colors.
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don't despair - at some point 16gb modules will become so obsolete that Apple can't source 60 million of them and will have to make the base size 32/64gb.
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Tell us where and when so someone can be standing outside to catch it!
I must admit that I wish I hadn't caved into my desire for the iPhone 6 Plus. Years as an Apple customer, I knew better but my cramped 5S just wasn't cutting it.
I'm betting the upcoming iPhone 6 Plus S or whatever they call it will be vastly better. Certainly stronger, and without the need for huge ugly bezels.