Right. Sorry. I wasn't disputing that. I was just pointing out that the monthly payment is interestingly less for the larger memory size devices. I really don't know where the difference comes from. You pay the $100 or $200 upfront to cover the overall difference as you said, but then you also save another $18 or $36 depending on which larger size you pick.
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iPhone 6s Supports T-Mobile Extended Range LTE on 700MHz Spectrum
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Right. Sorry. I wasn't disputing that. I was just pointing out that the monthly payment is interestingly less for the larger memory size devices. I really don't know where the difference comes from. You pay the $100 or $200 upfront to cover the overall difference as you said, but then you also save another $18 or $36 depending on which larger size you pick.
I believe you need to have service with them for 30 days in order to get a sim unlock. Will they refund the cost of the plan you have used, or prorate? Don't discount the activation fee... that most likely you won't get back.
I was on T-M for a while with the iPhone 5 and 5s but coverage at my home is lousy. On Roots it's a blob of range in a sea of green - the only one.
After talking at length with T-M customer service, I was assured that there would be antenna changes in my area that would remedy the problem. Well, that was for [last] January and we're now in September and - guess what - it's as bad at it ever was.
So, John. Yeah - coverage is king. You don't have it.
After talking at length with T-M customer service, I was assured that there would be antenna changes in my area that would remedy the problem. Well, that was for [last] January and we're now in September and - guess what - it's as bad at it ever was.
So, John. Yeah - coverage is king. You don't have it.
If you're in an area that doesn't have T-Mobile coverage, having them as your carrier is a proud reply but pointless.
It's like living in Paris but having a Belgian-only carrier for your phone. Even the Swiss would appreciate that.
That makes sense and is still better than buying outright from Apple or whomever else as I'd save $125 if the phone worked well for me in buildings (my current tmo problem) and if it did not, but I wanted to keep the phone, I'd essentially pay the same as if I bought the phone outright somewhere.
Good point. I'm also fine with prorated or sticking it out past a month if reception is bad, as long as they refund a month as they state, any extra I used I'm good with paying for of course. I'll have to look into the activation fee. Other than that, I just was wondering if service was poor and you kept the phone and switched are you saving over buying the phone outright. Probably not, as they likely enforce paying regular phone price for early buyout. That's okay too, as at least they give $125 savings if you stick with them.
Hey guys - getting ready to order a new iPhone 6s for Tmobile and was initially excited to hear this announcement on compatability with Tmobile's 700 MHZ extended LTE coverage.
However, I'm a bit confused - I am using a Samsung Note 3 from AT&T (unlocked) on Tmobile now, and looking up the specs - it seems to support LTE 700 MHZ already, but this range is also referred to as "band 17", not band 12 - as is described by Tmobile.
??? Am I already accessing the Tmobile Extended LTE coverage? If so, honestly - I haven't been too impressed - I was hoping coverage would improve with the Iphone 6s - I can't even get strong signal at SFO while on the tarmac - I only get 3G!
However, I'm a bit confused - I am using a Samsung Note 3 from AT&T (unlocked) on Tmobile now, and looking up the specs - it seems to support LTE 700 MHZ already, but this range is also referred to as "band 17", not band 12 - as is described by Tmobile.
??? Am I already accessing the Tmobile Extended LTE coverage? If so, honestly - I haven't been too impressed - I was hoping coverage would improve with the Iphone 6s - I can't even get strong signal at SFO while on the tarmac - I only get 3G!
No -- this "extended range LTE" from T-Mobile is on band 12, not band 17 (AT&T) or band 13 (Verizon). No previous iPhone supported band 12.
Much of California has band 12 licenses (albeit small chunks, so speeds won't blow anybody away). I believe band 12 is deployed and active in SF, so you should be seeing improvements with the 6s/6s+.
It's also worth noting that the Note 3 you're using isn't optimized for T-Mobile. You'll probably find that a T-Mobile model of the Note 3 would have legitimately stronger connection strength (in addition to Wi-Fi Calling, HD Voice and other things).
It hadn't occurred to me before but financing the iPhone through apple will let my finally transition away from ATT if I ever want to in the future. I may give T a shot.
Just be sure to study their map, RootMetrics and Sensorly. Their $30 prepaid plan is also a good way to try them out for 30 days.
This is exactly what my brother is doing. He still has his unlimited data from AT&T, both from the original iPhone and iPad, which is the only reason he is still with AT&T. I had the same but switched to T-Mobile 2 years ago and haven't looked back. The bonus of the phone not being locked if financed through Apple was the thing that made the decision easy for him. We both do some international travel and having a locked phone has always been infuriating.
So I guess that makes the T-mobile unlocked one one the best these days? Assuming Verizon will activate it, the T-mobile one is
1. Unlocked
2. Works on Verizon
3. Supports Band 12 for T-mobile, and Band 30 for AT&%
Or am I missing something?
Here's the new T-Mobile video:
Comes from their press release: http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-insights-blog/lifetime-coverage-guarantee.htm
I got T-Mobile last year, switched from Verizon. Being in a major city I've had 0 issues and it works pretty well outside the city too.
Comes from their press release: http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-insights-blog/lifetime-coverage-guarantee.htm
I got T-Mobile last year, switched from Verizon. Being in a major city I've had 0 issues and it works pretty well outside the city too.
T-Mobile customers should notice an improved LTE experience in the United States with the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus, as Apple has included support for LTE band 12 on the new smartphones. Both GSM and CDMA models of the new iPhones support the 700MHz spectrum.T-Mobile uses the 700MHz spectrum to offer what it calls T-Mobile Extended Range LTE across the U.S., which it says extends the network's LTE signal twice as far from its cellular towers and works four times better in buildings. T-Mobile Extended Range LTE is live in 170 markets and covers more than half of the American
population.
T-Mobile plans to cover another 600,000 square miles with Extended Range LTE over the next three months, expanding coverage to over 260,000 homes each week to reach over 350 markets across the U.S. T-Mobile shared a map of its projected cellular coverage in the U.S. through the end of the year to highlight its progress.
T-Mobile's projected LTE coverage in the U.S. by the end of 2015
T-Mobile is confident enough that customers will be satisfied with their network coverage that it has announced a Lifetime Coverage Guarantee for the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus purchased through JUMP! On Demand. The carrier will unlock your iPhone and offer partial refunds to customers that are unhappy with their coverage.T-Mobile has also announced that it will be offering the iPhone 6s through JUMP! On Demand for $0 down with equal monthly payments of $20 for 18 months. At the end of the 18 months, you can return your iPhone to T-Mobile and pay nothing more or pay an additional $164 more to keep the iPhone 6s -- a total cost of $524, which is $125 cheaper than Apple's $649 price.
T-Mobile CEO John Legere also announced on Twitter that the carrier will begin selling the Apple Watch, although he stopped short of providing a specific release date. Since launching in April, the Apple Watch has slowly been expanding to resellers such as Best Buy in the U.S. and other countries following a period where sales were limited to Apple Stores and select fashion boutiques.
Article Link: iPhone 6s Supports T-Mobile Extended Range LTE on 700MHz Spectrum
T-Mobile customers should notice an improved LTE experience in the United States with the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus, as Apple has included support for LTE band 12 on the new smartphones. Both GSM and CDMA models of the new iPhones support the 700MHz spectrum.T-Mobile uses the 700MHz spectrum to offer what it calls T-Mobile Extended Range LTE across the U.S., which it says extends the network's LTE signal twice as far from its cellular towers and works four times better in buildings. T-Mobile Extended Range LTE is live in 170 markets and covers more than half of the American population.
T-Mobile plans to cover another 600,000 square miles with Extended Range LTE over the next three months, expanding coverage to over 260,000 homes each week to reach over 350 markets across the U.S. T-Mobile shared a map of its projected cellular coverage in the U.S. through the end of the year to highlight its progress.
T-Mobile's projected LTE coverage in the U.S. by the end of 2015
T-Mobile is confident enough that customers will be satisfied with their network coverage that it has announced a Lifetime Coverage Guarantee for the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus purchased through JUMP! On Demand. The carrier will unlock your iPhone and offer partial refunds to customers that are unhappy with their coverage.T-Mobile has also announced that it will be offering the iPhone 6s through JUMP! On Demand for $0 down with equal monthly payments of $20 for 18 months. At the end of the 18 months, you can return your iPhone to T-Mobile and pay nothing more or pay an additional $164 more to keep the iPhone 6s -- a total cost of $524, which is $125 cheaper than Apple's $649 price.
T-Mobile CEO John Legere also announced on Twitter that the carrier will begin selling the Apple Watch, although he stopped short of providing a specific release date. Since launching in April, the Apple Watch has slowly been expanding to resellers such as Best Buy in the U.S. and other countries following a period where sales were limited to Apple Stores and select fashion boutiques.
Article Link: iPhone 6s Supports T-Mobile Extended Range LTE on 700MHz Spectrum
THAT NOSE!!!
T-Mobile is nothing shy of horrible in Indianapolis, and almost useless outside/around the city.
John Legere seems like a pretty cool dude and I appreciate what he's trying to do. However, with all the fees does come really good coverage from At&T. When I first moved out here to the agricultural reserve I didn't have a strong signal but within a few months they got us covered and I get great coverage. I was also surprised to find I had a decent signal in some remote mountainous parts of Utah. It was spotty but it was there. I have been a customer of Sprint and T-Mobile and Verizon for my iPad.
I can't remember how good or bad the Sprint coverage was but that was too many years ago to compare anyway. Verizon isn't bad, but when my dad was on Android they kept trying to charge him for app services that Apple forces carriers to keep their mitts off of on IPhone. I think there was a GPS app they tried to charge my dad for, so he switched to IPhone so they couldn't touch him.
T-Mobile always had courteous service and I loved my T-Mobile Dash, but their coverage was poor and I'm sorry to hear they still have a way to go.
Anyway, AT&T isn't the devil. Their customer service that's outsourced to somewhere overseas is polite but comically inept. But when we go into our local store they're great. Our preorder experience through their website last year was horrible. But no worse than the Apple Watch preorder fiasco was for some people. So it's a mixed bag and sometimes I'm tempted toward T-Mobile but then I settle back down.
I'm glad Legere is out there to keep them honest-ish. I'm just still persuaded that AT&T does give us value for the money. Outages have been extremely rare and loss of signal isn't something that happens often even when traveling. I'll keep my eye on T-Mobile, though. Choices are great to have and I'm glad they are expanding their coverage. I hope they're a big success but never let it go to their heads.
I can't remember how good or bad the Sprint coverage was but that was too many years ago to compare anyway. Verizon isn't bad, but when my dad was on Android they kept trying to charge him for app services that Apple forces carriers to keep their mitts off of on IPhone. I think there was a GPS app they tried to charge my dad for, so he switched to IPhone so they couldn't touch him.
T-Mobile always had courteous service and I loved my T-Mobile Dash, but their coverage was poor and I'm sorry to hear they still have a way to go.
Anyway, AT&T isn't the devil. Their customer service that's outsourced to somewhere overseas is polite but comically inept. But when we go into our local store they're great. Our preorder experience through their website last year was horrible. But no worse than the Apple Watch preorder fiasco was for some people. So it's a mixed bag and sometimes I'm tempted toward T-Mobile but then I settle back down.
I'm glad Legere is out there to keep them honest-ish. I'm just still persuaded that AT&T does give us value for the money. Outages have been extremely rare and loss of signal isn't something that happens often even when traveling. I'll keep my eye on T-Mobile, though. Choices are great to have and I'm glad they are expanding their coverage. I hope they're a big success but never let it go to their heads.
The T-Mobile 6S won't work on Verizon because, unlike the 6, the 6S is bifurcated into CDMA and non-CDMA versions. If you are a T-Mobile customer you should get the Verizon 6S. If you are an AT&T customer you should probably still get the Verizon 6S unless you're in one of the few markets where band 30 is deployed.
The iPhone 6Ⓢ offers LTE-A, but what carriers in the U.S. offer LTE-A? None. Those fast speeds are for Asia, not the U.S.
Previous iPhones have carrier aggregation/LTE-A. AT&T and T-Mobile have it active in many areas.
Why not use the att upgrade subsidy? He is already paying a higher monthly cost than many of the share plans. Just buy it out later if need to switch. As long as one makes it a ways into the contract period it would save money.
I understand the reason for wanting to keep the unlimited plan, might as well benefit from the subsidy as well?
It most certainly *will* work on Verizon. Any device with Band 13 and 4 will. Having CDMA is not a requirement anymore... And Verizon is actively setting these up. This applies to the Nexus 6 as well. They even have a webpage dedicated to walking you thru it.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/nso/enterDeviceId.do?&&zipRdr=y
We live in a modest sized city (under 50,000) in Kentucky and recently switched to T-Mobile. We've already travelled a fair amount within the region and have found the coverage to be much better than expected. There have been a few dead spots, but we also had those with AT&T. The bill for our family is about 1/2 what we had with ATT, we each have far more data allotted to us (10gigs each with up to 10 gig rollover), all our music streaming is free, the customer service has been great, and our LTE speeds have been 2 to 3 times faster than anything we ever got with ATT. We did the T-Mobile test drive to check out their network before deciding to make the switch - a free week with an iPhone to check out their network. When we discovered our neighborhood coverage started to get a little weak right at our house they sent us a free LTE booster that works fantastic so our speeds inside our house are now twice what we get from our TimeWarner wifi and triple what we had with ATT. When I was dissatisfied with the signal strength in my office inside a brick building they sent me another free LTE booster to vastly improve my experience while working. We couldn't be happier with T-Mobile and expect that with the new 6s iPhones we'll soon be getting, and their rapidly improving network, we'll be even happier.
I wouldn't switch back to ATT even if we had zero signal. Getting them to unlock my kids' iPhone 6 and 6+ was a nightmare of almost unimaginable proportions. What should have taken no more than 48 hours (actually, it should have taken far less) stretched out to a week - all while I had kids with inoperable phones. We had followed every instruction, paid every fee, and still the phones remained locked. Customer service at every level from overseas to ATT Corporate could see we'd paid our bill, but seemed unable to do anything but offer to put in yet another service order (adding up to another 72 hours to our problem). A complaint to the BBB and many nasty posts on social media got their attention but even then they seemed unable to do anything. We were on the phone with them for at least 3 hours each evening before finally stumbling across a technician that may be the only competent and polite person they have on staff in all of North America.
I wouldn't switch back to ATT even if we had zero signal. Getting them to unlock my kids' iPhone 6 and 6+ was a nightmare of almost unimaginable proportions. What should have taken no more than 48 hours (actually, it should have taken far less) stretched out to a week - all while I had kids with inoperable phones. We had followed every instruction, paid every fee, and still the phones remained locked. Customer service at every level from overseas to ATT Corporate could see we'd paid our bill, but seemed unable to do anything but offer to put in yet another service order (adding up to another 72 hours to our problem). A complaint to the BBB and many nasty posts on social media got their attention but even then they seemed unable to do anything. We were on the phone with them for at least 3 hours each evening before finally stumbling across a technician that may be the only competent and polite person they have on staff in all of North America.
So I'm currently a T-Mobile customer without JUMP and with a 6. If I sign up for the JUMP program when getting a 6S will I be able to trade in the 6S a year later for a 7? I think I saw somewhere you had to hold for 18 months before upgrade.
And will T-Mobile offer me cash for the 6? Otherwise I'll sell on my own.
I'm trying to compare the T-Mobile offers to the new Apple $33/month program (assuming I will want to upgrade every year).
And will T-Mobile offer me cash for the 6? Otherwise I'll sell on my own.
I'm trying to compare the T-Mobile offers to the new Apple $33/month program (assuming I will want to upgrade every year).