Who am I abusing? I'm talking about the people who started the petition. And I am not the only in this thread who call them morons.
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iPhone 7 no headphone Jack Petition
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Who am I abusing? I'm talking about the people who started the petition. And I am not the only in this thread who call them morons.
two lightning ports is the way to go if apple wants to keep people happy-ish. Buying new connectors, it's just the way of life apple customers have to deal with. But not charging and listening to music simultaneously, dumb!!
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This the issue I have with this. For those 3.5 is dead, well good for them. Its not for many like me. As mentioned in another thread I use the same high quality headset for many things. From iPhone to audio out on DSLR video takes to check sound levels.
Lacking this functionality...the future is looking messed up really. Next iPhone could in theory cost me more as I can't turn in the old one. It will become....duh duh duh....the over glorified iPod. 2 phones to do 2 jobs. As given cost of recent camera gear and stuff yet bought (external disk recording to bypass limitations many vendors put in camera)....I am 3.5 for quite a few more years.
If not 2 ports, a special Y adapter with lighting to phone and on the Y the 3.5 adapter and a lightning female to take a male for at lest charging. Communications would be nice but not life or death and something I could give up as a caveat.
I've said on other threads give it a few months after release (IF THIS RUMOR IS TRUE) and every smart device will do a similar adaption to Apple.
I general cant see the pro's or con's of it.
I general cant see the pro's or con's of it.
You'll still get some devices clinging on to it for dear life and haters proclaiming it as a killer feature, just like we have now with SD card slots.
In reality though we will have moved on to a better solution and those people who will inevitably drone on about how "Android handset X has a headphone jack and iPhone doesn't lol" will unknowingly be stuck in the past, again just like the ones now who go on about stupid SD cards.
Well said!
Wild guess would be somewhere down the line it will have something to do with helping the environment, it will cut down on production waste blah blah blah, then it will be the standard feature on phones
Using Bluetooth over a wired connection seems to draw less power then a wired connection. If apple did away with the headphone port what would lightening offer? Rumours are going around that Apple will support built in noise cancellation via added hardware to the cirrus logic sound chip. I know Bose do this via a headphone jack however if Apple built it in you could end up with a cheaper noise cancelling head phone. That would be a plus for daily commutes and listening in an office environment.
I suspect Apple will introduce noise cancellation and then remove the headphone jack when it's use declines.
I suspect Apple will introduce noise cancellation and then remove the headphone jack when it's use declines.
Like I said in another thread, I'd be okay with the jack removal provided they make up for it with 3 things.
First, they need a reason for its removal other than thinness. If the 7 truly is waterproof because of the 3.5 removal, I'm fine with that.
Second, they need to include a way for me to listen to wired headphones. Either a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter, or included lightning earbuds would do.
Last, they need a way for me to charge my phone while using the lightning port for headphones. This means wireless charging.
If they can do all 3, I say let's kill the headphone jack.
First, they need a reason for its removal other than thinness. If the 7 truly is waterproof because of the 3.5 removal, I'm fine with that.
Second, they need to include a way for me to listen to wired headphones. Either a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter, or included lightning earbuds would do.
Last, they need a way for me to charge my phone while using the lightning port for headphones. This means wireless charging.
If they can do all 3, I say let's kill the headphone jack.
you don't think they'll make a splitter to allow you to charge and listen to music at the same time?
Why petition? You already have a very powerful way to let apple know if they have made the wrong decision: your wallet. Just don't buy or upgrade to the new iPhone.
But what is option, goto Android?
I will bet cash in my wallet now, once Apple remove 3.5mm, other Android premier phone will follow within 1-2 years, and after 2 years, all premier smartphone will not have 3.5mm port, then what do you do, use 2 years old phone, less quality phone, don't use phone?
Change is coming, regardless we like it or not, and it is really about 1) cost reduction, which equal more revenue, by eliminate more component, 2) thinner case so people like thin included most of user has very little technical knowledge, and there is a lot of them, will want to have newest coolest design thin phone, thin is driving that at forefront, 3) create another new revenue stream for Apple and other 3rd party, BT and other wireless headset (This will actually be good for anyone like wireless headset, because more people making it, better it will get, and cheaper it will get).
Added: By the way, if Apple open up certification for 3rd party Lightning digital audio, this could be great for Audiophile. A external high end D/A could handle all D/A conversion, it will has the best sound quality vs any analog 3.5mm audio output, and eliminated 3.5mm out will open up lightning digital out market, since more people will be shopping for headset or D/A conversion with lightning input due the need, not want.
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No they aren't. And your entitlement is hilarious. There are plenty of comparable services to use and some of them free.
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They most likely want to use the space for something else.
An adapter might work well for audio purposes (it doesn't)
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/9-2-lightning-audio-error.1947673/
It just add another problem.
But that won't work with accessories due to it being a cable (not ridged).
Plus your point is moot. Those are accessories you either don't need to buy or would buy for any iPhone anyway.
Don't get me wrong, it's not that I WANT to completely move to the competition it's just my hand is being forced. A smartphone is a tool for us, if it doesn't work very well we'll use a different tool. I appreciate the wish of luck but like my sig mentions I'm already using competing products.
OS X did the same thing, when El Cap dropped and broke most of MS Office suite my gf didn't have the luxury of waiting around for updates. She's been a very happy Windows user on a new PC ever since.
I'm not knocking Apple. Sometimes a company goes a different direction than a users needs. It only makes sense for those users to move on. Microsoft did the same thing years ago, I don't hold them in disdain, I just moved to OS X because it worked better for me at that time.
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I appreciate your point of view and I understand what you are saying however I feel SD card is a very bad example.
Apple marketing is great, they can do something and the consumer will convince themselves it's not a bad thing, but it's the way of the future.
Apple supplies the lowest amount of storage for the highest price in the industry. No other smartphone comes with only 16gb in 2015, nor is the competitions 32gb more expensive. They then force you to pay an even bigger premium (100 dollars) for the next upgrade, meanwhile many of the competition charges less for the next step up (50 dollars) because they don't supply an SD card.
Absolutely nothing above was done to benefit you as the consumer. They weren't trying to help you become unstuck from the past.
They just wanted you money. There is nothing wrong with that, they are a business and making money is their job. However when people come up with fantastic ideas about how Apple doing this to benefit the consumer it leaves me scratching my head.
Let's take a little closer look at the 3.5mm headphone jack. Is it an old standard? Yes. Could we live without it? Yes. Ok so that is all Apple needs, they will take that and run.
They will remove it from the phone however they won't reduce the cost of the phone. They will basically move the connection from within the phone to an accessory outside the phone and charge you a premium for it. Probably under the guise of making the device thinner even though other manufacturers have already done it. Meanwhile droves of Apple fans will be applauding Apple for helping them move into the future.
'Entitlement'??
You mean if you pay money you don't actually deserve to get your good money's worth? Keep that koolaid! Lol
And yes there are other comparable services that I guess I could go on. By myself. Talking to no one else in my family. But it's free. And comparable.
If you don't like it, don't buy it.
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Why would they do that if it has wireless charging?
That is big if, unless you work for Tim.
Apple will not introduce wireless charging until it is cost justify for them, and could be charged reliably.
It is possible wireless charging implement as an option not standard, will required buyer to pay for external charging dock, or must charge use lightning port.