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iPhone 7 no headphone Jack Petition
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You know what the iPhone offers. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's not a difficult concept to show Apple tour dislike of their products with your money. Complaining on the net gets you where exactly?
complaining about phones bending got the new strong aluminium so... feedback works
Im fine Apple ditching the headphone jack as Ive been using wireless headphones and speakers for years now. My earpods of every iphone iteration I have are just in the box sitting in the dark.
I picture an adapter costing 99, since it's much more then just a pass thru. 3rd party options will be a little cheaper but keep in mind lightning is proprietary and requires a licensing fee. Many will be using Chinese knock offs and there will be plenty of compatibility issues with 1st and 3rd party options like we see now on occasion with lightning charging (device not supported errors).
Unfortunately that price hike will carry across to lightning equipped headphones which will basically need the adapter built in and will still need to pay Apples licensing fee.
Wireless will be the best option for most of us. Unfortunately professionals requiring wired options will be stuck with high prices, limited options, and reliability issues. There are a few benefits though.
Be a nice time to see USB C port. Unlikely but would be nice to at least get some low cost high quality alternatives out there.
Unfortunately that price hike will carry across to lightning equipped headphones which will basically need the adapter built in and will still need to pay Apples licensing fee.
Wireless will be the best option for most of us. Unfortunately professionals requiring wired options will be stuck with high prices, limited options, and reliability issues. There are a few benefits though.
Be a nice time to see USB C port. Unlikely but would be nice to at least get some low cost high quality alternatives out there.
I'm pretty sure that a lot of the people who create products dependent upon that port are praying against this....
Apple won't do that! That would cost them a fortune! They are replacing a standard wire with a proprietary wire so you need to pay a premium. Lol, the future....
Bluetooth good in a pinch or for work-outs/ the car but I don't want to rely on inferior audio quality and yet another device to recharge as my go-to headphones. I also have several computers and devices I am not planning on replacing any time soon that use 3.5mm jacks. These are grandma devices?
I'll keep my "grandma" wireless bluetooth phone with a 3.5mm jack that natively works with my Sennheisers and Shures and you get your wireless bluetooth phone with lightning Beats and no 3.5mm jack (or buy an extra adapter to keep track of!). Everyone happy
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Based on what? I own an official Apple 5S Lightning dock, which I paid $29 for new when I bought my 5S new. It includes not only a Lightning plug, but also a Jack. It also includes a 3.5mm Jack with a built-in DAC, equal to the quality built into the 5C. Now that's a complete, stand alone product intended to support an iPhone upright.
The adapter will be much simpler, and use fewer materials. At the very most this adapter will cost $29. But more likely it will cost $19. Third party developers routinely release the same products for much less, so I would imagine the adapter could be had for as little as $10-15, MiFi license included.
Supply vs demand. We are talking about the same company that charges 80 dollars for there usb c adapter.
The dock you are talking about is 39 and poorly rated.
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MGRM2AM/A/iphone-lightning-dock-white
I had one and it sucked. I'm not saying you haven't had better experience though.
The dock doesn't need material removed, it needs to be miniaturized which is a completely different thing. AND its reliability needs to be increased quite a bit. Although it's technically impossible it's reliability would need to reach 100% to match it not existing (as if the phone had a 3.5" jack).
My 99 guess was also based on the premium on current headphones with lightning vs their 3.5 counterparts.
99 is probably a high guess but that's what it's based on. I just wouldn't be surprised to see that much.
That's not the dock I have, my 5S dock was $29 new. Regardless, not a single one of the 39 reviewers was knocking the dock over the audio quality out of the 3.5mm Jack. And do you really believe that a sample of 39 people represents an accurate percentage of problems related to docks sold? You think Apple's only sold 100 of these things? I've never had a single problem with my dock and I place on and remove from my phone maybe a dozen times a day, for almost two years. Every manufacturer has manufacturing defects, and people tend not to review an item they purchase unless they are unhappy. So 20 1-star ratings for 500,000 docks sold would be pretty acceptable.
And yes, at least 75% of the materials that make up that dock would be unnecessary for an adapter such as this.
First off, I'm sorry if my opinion (guess) doesn't align with yours. I merely answered your question what I based my guess on.
Secondly, why would you assume as the sample pool increases the percentage of negative feedback decreases? That 500k people you added on were all completely satisfied? Why? I think I just stick with a small sample of potentially inaccurate data and my experience (although I'm not referring to the dock you own I'm assuming) vs your imaginary stat.
Regardless, lets exclude both..the reviews on the webpage and your hypothetical sample. Do you think it's possible for them to have the same reliability with an exteral connector with built in DAC vs no external connector?
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You are correct I was referring to the dongle. Sorry about that.
With the iPhone 5 everyone was pissed about the new lightning cable.
Apple is now looking to remove the headphone connection and people are pissed
Why? I personally love innovation and like that the jack is going away that **** is old we need something new and modern.
I think it's going to start with Apple losing the headphone jack then Samsung will follow and every other major phone manufactur there after
Apple is now looking to remove the headphone connection and people are pissed
Why? I personally love innovation and like that the jack is going away that **** is old we need something new and modern.
I think it's going to start with Apple losing the headphone jack then Samsung will follow and every other major phone manufactur there after
They got rid of their old connector because it charged at half the rate of the lightning connector, not because it was thinner. And back during iPhone 4, you could use a thinner phone, but who needs a phone thinner than the iPhone 6?
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Yes, and that makes us all warm and fuzzy because the sound quality of those is much better than the ones that came with Sony Walkman in '80s. I haven't even opened the package of those after the first set. Same goes with this Beats crap they are pushing these days. Maybe ok for someone who just wants to block the noise of the traffic around them, not really good for much else. My Grados don't come with bluetooth. I'm not too sorry about that. If the 3,5mm jack goes, so will I.
I'm all for innovation as much as the next guy. Buy don't mix innovation up with change. and change doesn't also mean for the better.
A) Wireless, is not innovative...That's just removing something.
B) Replace it with something else? lets say it is the Lightning bolt cable.
it simply means anyone who wants:
Any way you look at it, Apple Saves Money, AND makes more money at the same time. save power
not have more wireless noise
have better sound quality
have better consistent connection
Must Buy one of their headphones. (or buy headphones from a manufacture who has to pay apple License fee)not have more wireless noise
have better sound quality
have better consistent connection
I'm all for Progress and innovation where progress and innovation is merited.
its a 3.5mm Jack. They improved that jack a few years ago by adding a 3rd ring, while maintaining the backwards capability. THAT was innovative.
But replacing it would tantamount to changing the plug in a wall. Could you image if Apple try to change the plugs in your wall at home? HAH
BTW, I have never plugged headphones into my iPhone, I have however used it to listen to music in things like a Car or other stereo systems.
If they remove it... it better be to add more Battery. I can't see any other advantage. NONE.
Actually there are benefits to getting rid of the 3.5mm headphone jack and moving audio to the Lightning connector. It's not just a money grab for Apple. Here is a video that really explains what those benefits are.
So, Wifi isn't innovation? Radio isn't innovation?
No, they can also buy an adapter. Likely inexpensive. Likely very low profile.
Wow. So when they went from mono to stereo by adding the first ring, somebody should have won the nobel prize? And while that is truly backward compatible, 2 ring plugs are not universally compatible with all devices. Some switch what signal is sent on the 2nd ring and sleeve, requiring adapters.
You mean like I have to buy adapters to use my 120v appliances in other countries, or adapters to plug my USB powered devices into walls? Crazy.
Well, then you will probably get your wish, because they likely will add more battery, as well as some other feature that you may prefer over a large, native, single function port.
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I'm not sure what your point is, he clearly outlines there will be a premium cost for consumers to put the tech back that Apple is removing, only difference is now we'll have access to higher quality DAC's. Again are they making the phone cheaper due to removing the DAC and 3.5 port? We will have to pay a separate charge for it.
Head phones isn't much of a concern for me. I'll buy new headphones if I have too.
My main gripe is credit card readers for an entire company. BEST case scenario is this premium costing lightning to 3.5mm dongle works at all. Worst case is it doesn't work.
Do you see the problem?
The best case is new iPhones cost us 30-50 dollars more because we need to get a dongle for each one. The iPhone already carried a premium over the competition, add another 30-50 dollars each and there is no way I could sweet talk our bosses into sticking with iPhones. I could probably get iPhone 6Ss for a while but that will only last so long before people start complaining.
And of course the worst case is it doesn't work at all thus leaving us no choice but to switch.
What good does a high quality DAC do for a credit card reader? Lol
Regardless I'm just going to wait and see what happens before investing too much thought into. Might be a total non issue, or might still have the headphone jack.