iPhone 7 Plus Design Drawings Depict Dimensions Identical to iPhone 6s Plus

[Alan-in-CO]

Headphone jacks are more than capable of playing high resolution music. The Astell & Kern 380 can play 32bit 384khz audio files and its main output is a headphone jack. That's not just high resolution... That's stupid-high... As in, no album has ever been recorded at that resolution.

That's true, thanks for the clarification, and yeah, that's crazy hi-res! I think what I trying to say is I think it will be one of those big announcements, and I can hear them saying "and we have the perfect way to play these hi-res music files" and then announce the end of the traditional headphone jack. I think everyone's looking for the next big thing in order to drive more music downloads.

 

[C DM]

It's funny how you choose to ignore all the links I posted. There were no physical leaks for the 2011 iPhone, unlike for the iPhone 4/5/6, just some people guessing. Every iPhone leaks around this time of the year. (Again, 2011 iPhone didn't leak, it was pure speculation. Every other year there were actual casing leaks.)

What's a leak vs speculation? Just because there's some picture of something doesn't make it a leak as it can easily be something made up or a picture of something else. I'm not ignoring that there were other years of this or that, I'm simply demonstrating that there was at least one instance when things didn't pan out, which is enough to show that it can't simply be said that whatever seems like a leak or a rumor means that will be the reality.

 

[amegicfox]

if the new iPhone will have again the nasty camera bump, Tim Cook needs to be fired and replaced immediately

 

[Jimrod]

Have fun with the competition. I am not an Apple apologist, I enjoy technology in general and use what I find to be the best. If Android suits you best, go there. I've been back and forth so many times over the years, recently trying the 5X (great device, still not a fan of Android though) and here I sit happy as a clam with my 6S.

The problem with "people" is that they demand new and exciting for everything. That demand is not sustainable, it never has been and it never will be. The iPhone does exactly what I want it to without the annoyances I find on Android getting in the way. It does not need to make my breakfast or any of the other nonsense I am sure people can dream up. It is simply the illusion that all these companies have sold people on that they MUST have the latest and greatest every single time something is released and that the newest thing must do something so mind blowing you forget everything else before it. RARELY does such a leap happen, RARELY. Expecting that to happen each release is just a fools game. There is not a single thing the competition offers that is drastically different from the Apple offering, besides a curved screen which people somehow seem to "need" that in reality doesn't actually offer much usability beyond "Hey look stuff is over HERE now".

Too much to reply to as I'm about to go into a meeting but quite simply no-one expects every year for a complete redesign, that's why we have "S" versions of iPhones, but with most on a 2-yearly upgrade cycle they expect newer and better design when it comes time to upgrade. The 6 wasn't a particularly great design in many people's eyes (antenna lines, camera bump, poor ergonomics with volume buttons opposing power button and uncomfortable "thinness" in-hand that didn't feel as good as the 3G or the 5 for example.

Apple have been dialling it in for a while and many of us who've used their products for a while expect better when we spend our money on what is supposed to be the most "premium" mainstream brand. The camera is surpassed by a few of the other brand's offerings now, 16GB base memory is a joke nowadays, thinness doesn't counter comparitively bulky bezel design - it actually makes it worse, a thicker, better shaped phone is better in-hand. There's plenty that Apple could and should do better, they were ahead of the competition in many ways but that's all but evaporated, anyone who can't see that has their head firmly buried in the sand. Even iMacs have been reduced to glorified laptops at best.

 

[nia820]

What is up with apple's obsessions with chunky bezels? Seriously, those bezels just won't die.

 

[mildmannered]

I reckon that seeing as the market is pretty much saturated (and any further improvements are pretty much incremental) . With the 'SE' they have discovered that people are still interested in a smaller form factor. I reckon there could be a market in a 'Nano' version. Ultra compact, very light, which would suit users that want a more discrete and less cumbersome phone. This could be an anniversary "WOW" phone.

I also think that they could chase the corporate market more, by adding "Administrator" profiles to the phones, and business accounts to the App store, so IT departments can manage which software employees are allowed to install. I've had it myself where I've inherited an iPhone as part of the job and wasn't able to do much with it, because the previous employee had used his own iTunes account. Wireless backup images to a company server - rather than Apples Cloud? Disgruntled employees must've locked phones without disclosing the PIN before? There are lots of useful options. It could even be deployed on any of the existing range of standard iPhone hardware, with a "Corporate" version of iOS. BlackBerry held onto it's share of the market for a long time because of it's advantages in this area.

 

[TommyA6]

What's a leak vs speculation? Just because there's some picture of something doesn't make it a leak as it can easily be something made up or a picture of something else. I'm not ignoring that there were other years of this or that, I'm simply demonstrating that there was at least one instance when things didn't pan out, which is enough to show that it can't simply be said that whatever seems like a leak or a rumor means that will be the reality.

leak

leak

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Speculation

Also, following the speculation of the 2011 design, MacRumors posted this in April 2011:
"At the time of ThisIsMyNext's posting (April), we received a reliable tip that this is not what the iPhone 5 will look like. As well, several other credible news outlets have said that the iPhone 5 will "look largely similar to the current iPhone 4"

 

[Guda.FL]

RIM...maybe not same situation, but by the looks of 6, 6s and 7. its seems like its going that way. RIM also got lazy at one point at which it backfired.

Everyone should realize as well, that after Jobs - Tim Cook's priority was to maximize profits. And it also looks as if the old guard got them to 5s maybe in design/specs for those days after that it fell flat. 6/6s survived because of Apples' reputation not design/hardware.

 

[Casfin]

Hopefully that's because of the rumoured major overhaul in 2017.

Come on Apple, put yourself 5 years ahead of the competition, like you were in 2007.

those days are long over. For the most part there is very little between a flagship iphone and Samsung now for example (aside from personal preference).

Apple has gotten shockingly lazy and overly greedy (that 16 GB base is and has been laughable for years).

But people continue to buy, so I can't blame them. If these rumours are true I'm looking closely at a Note 6 this summer.

 

[639051]

Too much to reply to as I'm about to go into a meeting but quite simply no-one expects every year for a complete redesign, that's why we have "S" versions of iPhones, but with most on a 2-yearly upgrade cycle they expect newer and better design when it comes time to upgrade. The 6 wasn't a particularly great design in many people's eyes (antenna lines, camera bump, poor ergonomics with volume buttons opposing power button and uncomfortable "thinness" in-hand that didn't feel as good as the 3G or the 5 for example.

Apple have been dialling it in for a while and many of us who've used their products for a while expect better when we spend our money on what is supposed to be the most "premium" mainstream brand. The camera is surpassed by a few of the other brand's offerings now, 16GB base memory is a joke nowadays, thinness doesn't counter comparitively bulky bezel design - it actually makes it worse, a thicker, better shaped phone is better in-hand. There's plenty that Apple could and should do better, they were ahead of the competition in many ways but that's all but evaporated, anyone who can't see that has their head firmly buried in the sand. Even iMacs have been reduced to glorified laptops at best.

The irony of some of the first things you mentioned is that you have people here saying Apple is lazy for releasing the SE with the same design of the 5/5S series, so it's quite obvious that people here just want to complain no matter what is released.

It seems to me what you expect a "premium phone" to contain is nothing more than merely what appeals to the eyes and not much of substance. I do agree completely with the bezel though, it is something Apple needs to ditch and fast, but the chances of that happening are likely very small. The camera? Sure there are "better" cameras out there but they are few and far between and in reality "better" is going to be visible only if you're posting to full size on the web or doing prints. If that is really the concern, buy a real camera because the tiny sensor in these devices doesn't amount to a hill of beans when you need to print something and have it look even decent. Concerning the rest of the premium build you discount the work that Apple puts into the design of the SoC and other components and tailoring iOS around those features. These are the things that actually matter, the things that you have to deal with day by day (if you know it or not).

Again, if you have found something better elsewhere why are you still with Apple? I never understand people who stick with something they don't like when they see something better out there. I've switched numerous times .. why not give it a try if that's what you want?

In regard to the iMac, it has always been a glorified laptop, unless you want to return to the G3 days and then most of that size wise was from the bulk of the CRT itself.

 

[C DM]

leak

leak

LEAK

Speculation

Also, following the speculation of the 2011 design, MacRumors posted this in April 2011:
"At the time of ThisIsMyNext's posting (April), we received a reliable tip that this is not what the iPhone 5 will look like. As well, several other credible news outlets have said that the iPhone 5 will "look largely similar to the current iPhone 4"

And yet we've seen at least one or two photos recently of a phone shell that was presented as an upcoming iPhone and turned out to be a completely different phone entirely. So leak or speculation or something else entirely (even though certainly presented as a leak)? And what is something like a diagram like what's presented in this thrads--could be a leak, could be something someone made up and this speculation, could be something else too, who would know?

 

[JimRV]

Of course but when you see other phones adding features that people would like is frustrating when you are paying £700-£800 for a phone.

I like my iPhone and what it does but it can be so much better. We shouldn't have to wait two more years for features that have been on android for years.

When you wait you're getting features that actually work the right way, otherwise if you can't wait go to android and get them half baked. The only thing that I'd like to see is OLED and its coming next year supposedly.

 

[LordQ]

Maybe attendees and customers should start boo-ing rather than clapping at the keynotes when stuff like "and it starts with 16 GB", "The same battery life as the previous generation", "Unapologetic plastic", etc, is mentioned... Apple needs a wake up call.

I'll never forget Steve's iPhone 4 demo when someone yelled "Verizon!". It may be quite uneducated, but someone has to do it.

 

[Stuey3D]

That's true, thanks for the clarification, and yeah, that's crazy hi-res! I think what I trying to say is I think it will be one of those big announcements, and I can hear them saying "and we have the perfect way to play these hi-res music files" and then announce the end of the traditional headphone jack. I think everyone's looking for the next big thing in order to drive more music downloads.

The thing is the 3.5mm socket is an analogue connector it's not like digital that can be restricted by bandwidth.

The 3.5mm is a connector to connect speakers (in this case headphones) to an amplifier, if you had a high quality high res DAC built into the iPhone and high res headphones then the 3.5mm plug will connect them.

The same as the same 2 core piece of wire connects a cheap amp and speakers or a many thousands of pounds audiophile grade amp and speakers.

The only restriction with the 3.5 socket is limited current and wiring thickness would prevent stupid volumes which for headphones is not an issue.

All Apple are doing here is making everyone buy their own DAC's in lightning headphones or Bluetooth adapters and will output raw data for them to decode, that way those with an expensive high res set of headphones can enjoy audiophile music, rather than relying on the iPhones built in DAC which will be more limited and therefore high res headphones won't make a huge difference if they were plugged in the 3.5 route.

I'm not going to go into the debate on wether high res music is worth it or wether it's just snake oil, normal headphones are good enough for me and when at home I use multi channel audio as my preference.

 

[Mactendo]

Jony Ive decided to take a year off.

He's busy designing tables. That's so much more important.

 

[efp722]

Man, I enjoy the screen size of my Plus, but I am sick of the size. Plenty of other companies successfully design and release phones with the same size screen as the Plus, sometimes bigger, and still manage to cut the bezels and make the phone still manageable to hold. First chance I get I am going back to the 6 of the SE. Won't do another Plus until they shrink the bezels.

 

[Mac 128]

That's true, thanks for the clarification, and yeah, that's crazy hi-res! I think what I trying to say is I think it will be one of those big announcements, and I can hear them saying "and we have the perfect way to play these hi-res music files" and then announce the end of the traditional headphone jack. I think everyone's looking for the next big thing in order to drive more music downloads.

Here's the thing with that -- Apple doesn't need to eliminate the 3.5mm Jack in order to offer that now. But that will absolutely be a marketing strategy.

But there's more going on here, and Intel's recent promotion of USB-C audio for mobile is a clue. Everyone, not just Apple needs to create more space inside their mobile devices, and eliminating a single function analogue audio jack is a ripe target.

The debate rages back and forth, but at the end of the day, even Apple is not arrogant enough to remove a universally used connector in its flagship device, when their competition doesn't have to in theirs. If the Jack goes, then you can bet the competition will be dropping their's in short order.

 

[4Apples]

I have the same problem with my iPhone 6 battery. Ugh.

Personally I think Apple does something to their iOS upgrades to make older models waste more battery in order to get you to buy their new products.. I'm still keeping my iPhone 6 and will wait till next year's model

 

[TommyA6]

And yet we've seen at least one or two photos recently of a phone shell that was presented as an upcoming iPhone and turned out to be a completely different phone entirely. So leak or speculation or something else entirely (even though certainly presented as a leak)? And what is something like a diagram like what's presented in this thrads--could be a leak, could be something someone made up and this speculation, could be something else too, who would know?

Believe what you will. The fact remains, leaks this far out turn out to be true 90% of the time, so we've already seen iPhone 7, most likely.

 

[C DM]

Believe what you will. The fact remains, leaks this far out turn out to be true 90% of the time, so we've already seen iPhone 7, most likely.

So basically not all the time and at least sometimes no good way to know what is an actual leak or just speculation (or even fake).

 

[retrojules]

I have a feeling that this will be called "The 2016 iPhone or the "New Iphone" and "iPhone Pro" (no one is talking about the iphone pro text on the picture. Anyways, the new/year iPhone similar to how they launched was it the ipad 3 with that title? I was working at bestbuy during that time and I remember (iRemember, ha - okay that was lame) the amount of confusion it caused. People coming saying I was a new ipad.....we could never tell if they wanted A NEW I PAD or THE NEW IPAD.

My only concern is if no body wants this thing like many are predicting and it in fact is missing the 3.5mm jack and has a smart connector - softdev and harddev support for it will be thin as the market is small for it.

Thoughts?

 

[MistrSynistr]

If the recent news doesn't light a fire under their ass nothing will.

I will lol for real if they go ahead with those proposed leak plans of the 7 where it looks exactly like the 6s but with antenna lines on top and not across the back.

 

[Casfin]

Still remember my first iPhone - original iPhone 1. What an AMAZING experience.
Almost a religious one. What a revelation.

Now, 10 years later - all the same and more of the same... 10 YEARS!!!

Look at this, it doesn't exactly scream evolution. Sure tech has changed, but design, ...really look at the 1st. The 6 is more or less a bigger version.

 

[I7guy]

Look at this, it doesn't exactly scream evolution. Sure tech has changed, but design, ...really look at the 1st. The 6 is more or less a bigger version.

That's one of the things i love about an iPhone, how recognizable it is throughout the years.

 

[Casfin]

That's one of the things i love about an iPhone, how recognizable it is throughout the years.

I suppose thats one way to spin it.