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Was thinking not to upgrade from my 6+ but perhaps I will at least buy it. Hmm not sure. We'll see if it is much much better in my hand and daily use.
 
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That's SIX friggin' years that the screen resolution of the small iPhone has stayed the same. Everyone else by now are doing minimum of 1080p and better. Why is Apple so stubborn on this??? And why are people accepting having 720p resolution year after year??? Doesn't anyone else want truly sharper screens on the smaller iPhone?? >:/

Apple better give us at least 1080p next year when it's time for that major redesign.....

I'm willing to bet you could not see the difference when you'd look at the iPhone screen as it is now and one which would have 1080p (assuming the displayed text/graphics are scaled to an equal size)
 
Because we can? But on a less snooty response, people like to have the latest and greatest. If they're able to have it, why not? Some people run businesses and their entire lives on their phones (I personally know 2 people who run their business from their phones 90% of the time) so why not make sure you have the most powerful device to be as efficient and able as possible.
Out of curiosity, what kind of business apps allow business owners to run their companies remotely? I'd be interested in checking them out. Cheers.
 
lol laughing at the replies....

Before this article, all the replies were 'Pshhh Apple can't innovate! Waiting for the 2017 iPhone!!!"

Now its all 'hmmm sounds good! Ill get it!"

I'm on the 'get it' boat, but I always have been since my iPhone 6+ is starting to show it's age and battery loss

I will admit I was a basher of the iPhone 7 and was willing to switch to the note 7 but I'm sorry ;-) I'm staying with iPhone and Apple now. iPhone 7 does look great because I have iPhone 6 Plus.
 
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This bitching how this is gonna be a boring update is getting really old. People are just never satisfied... :rolleyes:
 
Your example makes sense, not alone because you have chosen a very specific scenario in which wireless is not possible at present.
However: apple sells a lot of phones (don't recall the numbers... around 60-70million pa?)
Of all those consumers: how many fly so often as to be really inconvenienced by this jack issue?

Certainly we can make a list of other 3,5mm scenarios, e.g. old-folks homes, nuclear power plants, the ISS space station... which by the way used windows XP till 2013.

Well you got me ... I do pick "harder to refute" examples when I see folks make blanket statements like "3.5mm is going away ... which is generally code for forever".

I have a set of nice Beats headphones and another set of Beats earbuds. I love that I can plug them into my iPhone, iPad, Dell laptop, desktop, in-seat audio on airline flights (I fly a lot so that example matters to me). I never have to worry about adapters and the 3.5mm standard "just works" to steal a slogan from Apple. The 3.5mm example is convenient, reliable, and consistent among disparate systems. I hate that I will have to deal with adapters and maybe I won't be able to listen to music (via headphone/earbud) and charge my iPhone at the same time, that is even more of a nuisance. Then taking the 3.5mm jack and giving me a second speaker for some alleged "stereo" sound from speakers an inch apart, is yet another slap in the face to me.

I also loath the arguments of alleged quality improvement, the whole Lighting digital is better than 3.5mm analog is completely absurd and simply parroted by people who don't know what they are talking about. I admit I was one of those "digital parrots" until I read this detailed discussion on MacRumors.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/08/iphone-7-audiophile-lightning-headphones/

What most of those folks don't understand is that the source material you are listening to is digitally encoded, there is a DAC/AMP in the iPhone that converts that digital signal to analog and that signal travels along a wire to your speakers, with the wire connecting to your iPhone via a 3.5mm connector. Even if you have Lightning connected headphones, yes it's digital signal from the iPhone to the DAC/AMP in the headphones, you simply move the DAC/AMP function from the iPhone to the headphones, BUT from your Lightening connected headphones internal DAC/AMP onward, the signal still travels as AN ANALOG SIGNAL along a wire to your speakers. The whole quality argument to me is the most ludicrous and filled with so much misinformation it's sad.
 
I respectfully suggest you ask someone that bought a $1000 pair of headphones 30 years ago & uses them both in business and for pleasure if they would have bought them repeatedly six times over that period, if the plug changed every five years.
There is a HUGE difference between consumer tech (replace every 12-24 months) and pro grade equipment (replace perhaps never- can last several decades).
The pro market would dry up overnight if it was as you imagine.
Think of how a Rolex is an investment... something you could leave to an heir. What if wouldn't be "compatible" after 5 years... you'd buy a Timex instead, yeah?
The audio jack IS here to stay in pro equipment. It is going the way of the dodo in consumer equipment.
Both of those facts are nearly incontrovertible.

So: we are no longer talking about the iPhone headphone question, but about "headphone jacks in pro equipment" ?
OK.
I doubt that pro equipment enthusiasts choose headphones as an investment they will pass down to their children & heirs. But possibly I am out of touch with the type of people who proudly declare: "These headphones were passed down to me by my great-grandfather, the 3rd Earl of Winchester and Bose."
About the jack itself: you might very well be right, but who knows what the the next decades will bring? We don't even know for certain what the next iPhone will look like next week.
Life and tech is full of surprises.
 
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I respectfully suggest you ask someone that bought a $1000 pair of headphones 30 years ago & uses them both in business and for pleasure if they would have bought them repeatedly six times over that period, if the plug changed every five years.

I don't think it is about a plug. Don't be fulled by the lighting port, which by the way itself will age and die sooner then you think. It is all about wireless. By the way, I am not really expert but isn't the audio quality better with lighting port then 3.5mm audio jack?
 
Does that mean there's no home button indent?? If it's buttonless and just uses 3D touch tech, with a smoooooth front facing, I may upgrade after all.
 
I'm just excited about the possibility of using the new dual cameras to create parallax effects and change focal point with my pictures/live photos (fingers crossed).

Imagine how frigging cool it'll be to not only have live photos but now you'll be able to change the perspective of your live photos, much like the app tiles on the Apple TV! Or how about being able to change the focal point of your live photos after the fact.

Man... I'm geeking out here.
 
I acquiesce that!
I meant more that, that is why they will stick w/ 3.5mm in those instances.
I have ZERO problem using an adapter for all my now "legacy" high-end headphones.
Obviously, I would never replace them with temporary junk. It took me many years, thousands of dollars, and hours of research to choose my collection of Senns, Grados, Etymotics, etc.
Nobody is buying those all over, every few years. We'd all prefer buying a few adapters.

I agree, but a serious question: is the 3,5mm plug really the standard in all the pro gear? I have been in countless studios over the years, the quality headphones all seem to employ the larger plugs (quarter inch?) if recall correctly?
 
"Wide color displays in the same sizes and resolutions as the current iPhone 6s and 6s Plus"

So, iPhone's screen resolution continues being 326 PPI (excluding Plus).

Let's recap:

2010: iPhone 4 330 ppi
2011: iPhone 4S 330 ppi
2012: iPhone 5 326 ppi
2013: iPhone 5S 326 ppi
2014: iPhone 6 326 ppi
2015: iPhone 6S 326 ppi
2016: iPhone 7 326 ppi

That's SIX friggin' years that the screen resolution of the small iPhone has stayed the same. Everyone else by now are doing minimum of 1080p and better. Why is Apple so stubborn on this??? And why are people accepting having 720p resolution year after year??? Doesn't anyone else want truly sharper screens on the smaller iPhone?? >:/

Apple better give us at least 1080p next year when it's time for that major redesign.....

The screen resolution is Apple way to separate the Apple techies from regular fanboys! Plus, Apple managements gets a kick in seeing how long they can push the envelope using 326 ppi or 720i on to the consumer in the age of 4K screen smartphones, Apple still has < 1K screens! I sure Samsung management and other smartphone manufacturer just still dumbfounded that a Retina quality screen still exists in 2016!
 
I will admit I was a basher of the iPhone 7 and was willing to switch to the note 7 but I'm sorry ;-) I'm staying with iPhone and Apple now. iPhone 7 does look great because I have iPhone 6 Plus.


Ahh, the rare honest poster. Refreshing. Others are wringing their hands and are increasingly frustrated as each new improvement leaks out and the two sides of their brain- emotion and logic battle it out. Have a great weekend.
 
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KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has a very solid track record when it comes to Apple product rumors, has released his most detailed research report yet ahead of Wednesday's iPhone 7 launch. The report recaps a number of claims previously shared by Kuo and others while also introducing several new tidbits about the device.

Kuo notes that there are many upgrades and other changes with the iPhone 7, but because the overall design is similar to the iPhone 6s, "general users may not feel the differences significantly." Details on the iPhone 7 include:

- New A10 chip from TSMC that could top out at 2.4-2.45 GHz, although Apple may clock it a bit lower due to heat and power consumption concerns.

- Storage capacities of 32 GB, 128 GB, and 256 GB on both the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. The iPhone 7 Plus will include 3 GB of DRAM to support the dual-lens camera, while the iPhone 7 will continue to include 2 GB.

- Five color options including the usual silver, gold, and rose gold, along with a "dark black" replacing the usual Space Gray. A new fifth color Kuo describes as glossy "piano black" will also be offered. A photo of SIM trays in those five colors surfaced earlier this week.

gloss_black_iphone_sim_tray.jpg
- Improved IPX7 water resistance matching that of the original Apple Watch and making the device suitable for splashes, showering, and even brief dips in water up to one meter deep.

- No headphone jack, with Apple providing both Lightning EarPods and a Lightning to 3.5 mm jack adapter in the box. Removal of the headphone jack will allow for an upgraded speaker and a new sensor for improved Force Touch.

iPhone-7-speaker-grille-closed-off.jpg

- Earpiece receiver to become a speaker with the addition of a new audio amplifier. Rather than putting a second speaker at the bottom in place of the headphone jack, Apple is said to be upgrading the earpiece receiver at the top of the device to become a full speaker. The change would provide enough separation to allow for stereo sound when the device is held in landscape orientation.

- Pressure-sensitive click-less home button to benefit water resistance. New haptics to mimic a clicking sensation when the button is pressed will be included.

- Wide color displays in the same sizes and resolutions as the current iPhone 6s and 6s Plus. The wide color technology adopted from the 9.7-inch iPad Pro will offer better color quality.

- Dual-lens rear camera on the iPhone 7 Plus, which will increase Apple's costs by about $40 and could make the iPhone 7 Plus more expensive than the iPhone 6s Plus. Both lenses will be 12-megapixel, but one will be a wide-angle camera with larger pixel sizes, a 6P lens, and optical image stabilization, while the second will be a telephoto lens with smaller pixel sizes and a 5P lens.

dual_camera_photo.jpg

- Upgraded rear camera flash with four LEDs (two cool and two warm) and a new ambient light sensor for better image quality.

- Possible upgraded proximity sensor shifting from LED to laser for faster response and greater recognition distance, as well as potential gesture recognition.

- FeliCa NFC support in models sold in Japan, as had been previously rumored for either the iPhone 7 or the 2017 iPhone.

Overall, Kuo believes iPhone 7 shipments will be below that of the iPhone 6s through the end of the year, coming in at 60-65 million compared to 82 million last year. Kuo reports that Apple's water resistance requirements resulted in low assembly yields that pushed back the start of mass production until the second half of August.

Make sure to check out our "What to Expect" post for a recap on other announcements expected at Wednesday's event and stay tuned to MacRumors for other last-minute news and rumors. On the event day, we'll have full live coverage here on MacRumors.com and through our MacRumorsLive Twitter account, starting at 10:00 AM Pacific Time.

Article Link: iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model



KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has a very solid track record when it comes to Apple product rumors, has released his most detailed research report yet ahead of Wednesday's iPhone 7 launch. The report recaps a number of claims previously shared by Kuo and others while also introducing several new tidbits about the device.

Kuo notes that there are many upgrades and other changes with the iPhone 7, but because the overall design is similar to the iPhone 6s, "general users may not feel the differences significantly." Details on the iPhone 7 include:

- New A10 chip from TSMC that could top out at 2.4-2.45 GHz, although Apple may clock it a bit lower due to heat and power consumption concerns.

- Storage capacities of 32 GB, 128 GB, and 256 GB on both the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. The iPhone 7 Plus will include 3 GB of DRAM to support the dual-lens camera, while the iPhone 7 will continue to include 2 GB.

- Five color options including the usual silver, gold, and rose gold, along with a "dark black" replacing the usual Space Gray. A new fifth color Kuo describes as glossy "piano black" will also be offered. A photo of SIM trays in those five colors surfaced earlier this week.

gloss_black_iphone_sim_tray.jpg
- Improved IPX7 water resistance matching that of the original Apple Watch and making the device suitable for splashes, showering, and even brief dips in water up to one meter deep.

- No headphone jack, with Apple providing both Lightning EarPods and a Lightning to 3.5 mm jack adapter in the box. Removal of the headphone jack will allow for an upgraded speaker and a new sensor for improved Force Touch.

iPhone-7-speaker-grille-closed-off.jpg

- Earpiece receiver to become a speaker with the addition of a new audio amplifier. Rather than putting a second speaker at the bottom in place of the headphone jack, Apple is said to be upgrading the earpiece receiver at the top of the device to become a full speaker. The change would provide enough separation to allow for stereo sound when the device is held in landscape orientation.

- Pressure-sensitive click-less home button to benefit water resistance. New haptics to mimic a clicking sensation when the button is pressed will be included.

- Wide color displays in the same sizes and resolutions as the current iPhone 6s and 6s Plus. The wide color technology adopted from the 9.7-inch iPad Pro will offer better color quality.

- Dual-lens rear camera on the iPhone 7 Plus, which will increase Apple's costs by about $40 and could make the iPhone 7 Plus more expensive than the iPhone 6s Plus. Both lenses will be 12-megapixel, but one will be a wide-angle camera with larger pixel sizes, a 6P lens, and optical image stabilization, while the second will be a telephoto lens with smaller pixel sizes and a 5P lens.

dual_camera_photo.jpg

- Upgraded rear camera flash with four LEDs (two cool and two warm) and a new ambient light sensor for better image quality.

- Possible upgraded proximity sensor shifting from LED to laser for faster response and greater recognition distance, as well as potential gesture recognition.

- FeliCa NFC support in models sold in Japan, as had been previously rumored for either the iPhone 7 or the 2017 iPhone.

Overall, Kuo believes iPhone 7 shipments will be below that of the iPhone 6s through the end of the year, coming in at 60-65 million compared to 82 million last year. Kuo reports that Apple's water resistance requirements resulted in low assembly yields that pushed back the start of mass production until the second half of August.

Make sure to check out our "What to Expect" post for a recap on other announcements expected at Wednesday's event and stay tuned to MacRumors for other last-minute news and rumors. On the event day, we'll have full live coverage here on MacRumors.com and through our MacRumorsLive Twitter account, starting at 10:00 AM Pacific Time.

Article Link: iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model
Looks like this is going to turn out to be a solid update after all! YAY! Can't wait!
 
I don't think it is about a plug. Don't be fulled by the lighting port, which by the way itself will age and die sooner then you think. It is all about wireless. By the way, I am not really expert but isn't the audio quality better with lighting port then 3.5mm audio jack?

I, like many others, drank the "digital connections are better" cool aid until I read a very interesting discussion on MacRumors.

Unfortunately the alleged quality improvement using a Lighting connected device can be very misleading. The only way you will see any noticeable improvement is 1) have better source material digitized using a superior codec, 2) the Lightning connected device would need to have a superior DAC/AMP compared to the internal DAC/AMP in the iPhone, 3) the speakers in the associated Lighting connected device would need to also be superior compared to the current speakers you get in high quality headphones using the 3.5mm connector.

If all those items are improved, then yes the overall sound quality should improve. But Apple and the uninformed public will chant ... "digital connections are better ... digital connections are better"; without understanding the science behind it, they are generally dead wrong with that basic/limited understanding.

Here is that fantastic MacRumors discussion.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/08/iphone-7-audiophile-lightning-headphones/
 
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And why do people need to upgrade their phone every year?

Yep, I'll be upgrading from a 4S, so the urgency to annually upgrade evades me, but different folks have different priorities and whims. Actually, I was thinking about using the 4S for another year, but the power button got jammed.
 
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Nice to see that 32GB looks to be the new minimum instead of 16GB. I've been wanting that for several years now. 16GB is too small for me ad 64GB is a bit more than I need. The 32GB is the sweet spot for my needs.

Also will be interesting to see the proposed new black colors. Though I'm not looking to upgrade this year, it could be something we'll see in 2017 as well.
 
As long the touchscreen it's still responsive after 2 years
As long doesn't brick your phone with a software update
As long Apple accepting replacing users iPhones in case of malfunction instead of getting sued by the people
As long Apple doesn't use the same 2014 design
As long they don't remove the headphone jack and charge you $39 for an adapter
As long the iPhone it's not build in China with extreme labor
As long Apple doesn't use 16 GB scheme again for profits: 32 GB - 128 GB! I think Apple have winner here lol!


With the grammar, it's confusing what your point is. Can you clarify? Thanks
 
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I'm willing to bet you could not see the difference when you'd look at the iPhone screen as it is now and one which would have 1080p (assuming the displayed text/graphics are scaled to an equal size)

You my friend are not near sighted and have better vision! I can see both the quality of the fonts and in video, big difference in sharpness and clarity between 720i and 1K and higher screen quality in 1080p and 4K videos and movies!
 
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So it's valid debate. Should companies like Apple maintain backward compatibility with vintage devices which are increasingly becoming part of fringe use in society, or should they focus their energies for how most of the world is using their equipment?
Well, the way your frame it: it may be a valid debate, but also a useless one? I expect most people will agree they should focus on the future rather than the vintage? (While including an adapter ;-) )
 
It's odd, given all the leaks, that no-one has yet been able to produce a picture of the adapter we're all so convinced is going to be included.
 
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