iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model

[JayLenochiniMac]

I mean IPX7? Give me a break. IPX7 basically means if you splash it slightly and dry it off quickly enough, it probably won't die. That's really not significantly better than the iPhone 6S, other than the fact that it is officially rated now.

IPX7 means that it's waterproof to 1 meter for 30 minutes. Pretty sure that the iPhone 6s will croak if you were to immerse it to a depth of 1 meter for 30 minutes.

Have you visited the Apple Watch forum? The AW is officially rated IPX7 and you'd be surprised at the number of members who shower and swim with it on a regular basis.

 

[Pakaku]

A new fifth color Kuo describes as glossy "piano black" will also be offered. A photo of SIM trays in those five colors surfaced earlier this week.

But it's still not black enough. I won't be satisfied until I can get my iPhone in Vantablack.

 

[macduke]

Piano black 128GB for me. I just don't need 256GB yet—maybe on my next iPad. And I don't care how magical this new dual-camera is, because there's nothing that could make me go back to using a giant iPhone that barely fits in my pocket and is difficult to hold and use. At least that's what I keep telling myself. The 6 Plus was my least liked iPhone and I've owned nearly all of them. Yeah, I'm starting to get worried that the dual-camera is going to pull me over to the dark side and make me do things I don't want to do. Please no!

 

[Bawstun]

Piano black 128GB for me. I just don't need 256GB yet—maybe on my next iPad. And I don't care how magical this new dual-camera is, because there's nothing that could make me go back to using a giant iPhone that barely fits in my pocket and is difficult to hold and use. At least that's what I keep telling myself. The 6 Plus was my least liked iPhone and I've owned nearly all of them. Yeah, I'm starting to get worried that the dual-camera is going to pull me over to the dark side and make me do things I don't want to do. Please no!

Know what's interesting? I was comparing my old photos taken on my 5S to my 6 Plus, and to my eyes the 5S look better, sharper, better color. I think the camera in the 6+ just isn't very good. And it is my least favorite iPhone to date as well. Apple really crippled it by giving it 1GB of ram, the upscaling to proper resolution really sucks more life out of it than I think they initially realized. Or maybe they realized it and didn't care. Either way, it's a shoddy device for how much it costs if you ask me. I too will likely stick to the smaller size after not being able to hold this phone comfortably, text one-handed, etc. I think it's absolutely ridiculous to price-gauge for an upgrade if you're also changing the ergonomics of the device. It's one thing to upcharge for a better camera, but the devices are not the same. I'd pay more for a dual lens camera on the iPhone 7 standard size. Shame on Apple.

 

[Nuvi]

What an odd attitude... or are you being ironic?
Your definition of the word 'consumer' is amazingly passive almost slave-ish.
I know exactly what I want. if there are any bonus features I had not thought about, that a nice extra.
But I certainly don't sit back and hope that something happens which will impress me.
If you don't mind me asking: how do you decide which food to cook? how do you choose sexual partners?
Interesting...

In case of Apple every consumer is in passive relationship with manufacturer. What consumer wants has very little effect on what Apple produces. Slavery would be to accept everything what manufacturer produces. However, consumer has option not to accept what manufacturer is producing. I find your attitude interesting, do you truly think that you are in participating actively in Apple development? You said you "certainly don't sit back and hope that something happens which will impress me". What are those active measures you are taking with Apple? Apart from purchase behavior consumer has very little to influence the manufacturer. Hence, in case of iPhone 7 I'm not impressed what Apple is offering and therefore I'm not purchasing the product.

Human relationships are very different since active one to one communication is rewarder with direct reaction.

 

[alleggerita]

Word does not moving forward if you cancel a wide use standard to a proprietary standard. If Apple really want to move forward, do it with USB-C and make Bluetooth headphone not crappy.

Please just look at the death of the CD. Everybody complained. We all got used to it in the end. Apple has always been the disruptor and instigator of change. The world is generally too afraid of changes. For fear that nobody will buy their products if they drop certain well-established interface or ports.

Somehow Apple has been able to drop these interfaces and ports with minimal to no impact on their sales. So somehow I support Apple's role in disrupting the industry and bring about change.

And I'm sorry, Apple can't make Bluetooth audio less crappy, that's up to the Bluetooth consortium to improve on it

 

[Prof.]

Haven't decided if I am going to skip the 7. I have a 6 Plus at the moment, but it succumbs to touch disease like ever is saying it will, then...

Ideally I'd like to get the 2017 iPhone, if it is going to be as revolutionary as it sounds.

 

[Bawstun]

Oh my God. Apple hasn't innovated anything or gotten an industry to 'change' since they created the first iteration of iPhone. Stop giving them so much credit.

You can't force an industry to change when what you're replacing something with isn't also an industry standard. No other manufacturer is going to use lightning ports. Are you suggesting Samsung will phase out the headphone jack and replace it with a USB-C dongle? Because that's never going to happen.

The iPhone 8 will see the return of the headphone jack. Mark my words, remember this post.

 

[bbbb4b]

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

Wow. Good one. You must have gone to the Samsung School of Originality.
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I guess I linked the dots there?

Nah. You just made your own dots, and then linked them as you saw fit.

 

[alleggerita]

How does removing the headphone jack move the world forwards? Moving forwards means replacing old tech with something that is clearly better. This isn't doing that.

On the Lightning side, it is replacing a standard connector with a proprietary connector. That's moving the world backwards by any reasonable measure. Further, the Lightning connector is clearly inferior strength-wise to the 3.5mm mini plug, and because there's only one, if you damage it, your phone is unchargeable. In relative terms, that's one step forwards and about ten steps back.

And Bluetooth means no more wires, but comes at a cost of having to charge the batteries in your headphones pretty much every single day. At best, that's a wash, and a lot of people really don't like the idea of having a radio transmitter in their ears, so really Bluetooth is a step backwards, too, even if they manage to increase the battery life to a week per charge, make it low-latency, and prevent dropouts completely. Until then, it is several steps backwards.

Just because something has been around for four decades doesn't mean that it is out of date. If anything, the fact that it has been around for four decades usually means that it is a really good design that serves a particular need better than anything else. The sweet spot for innovation is between 5 and 15 years. If it hasn't been around for 5 years, it probably isn't crufty enough to replace yet. If it has been around for more than 15 years, there's probably a really good reason not to replace it.

3.5mm has been around for so Long because no one wants to change for fear of losing consumers like I was saying. 3.5mm is ANALOG. How can it be better than either lightning or USB-C which is digital?

And your criticism about Apple sharing audio output and charging duties to one single Lightning port is unfounded. How do you know the iPhone 7 doesn't come with wireless charging? And even if the 7 does not have, it's pretty firm that the 8 in 2017 will come with it.

So I'm sorry, it's not because 3.5mm is a good tech. It's because no one wants to change. And I'm glad Apple is once again, forcing the world to move forwards. At the end of the day, it's not a matter of whether USB-C or Lightning replaced 3.5mm. It's the fact that once again, it's Apple which braved all criticisms and risks of losing consumer to move the world forwards with newer tech.

 

[Sunny1990]

who

Please stop making yourself a victim. I never said anything to you that would be inconsiderate. I simply stated you Apple bash, which others in this exact thread have pointed out to you. It's not a secret Sunny.

Deeply frustrated by the iPhone 7 haters? I already explained myself to you on this, again, I reiterate, if I see something which is incorrect or misquoted, I say something. That has nothing to do with iPhone 7 haters. As a matter of fact, most have commended on a specific feature they like or dislike, which does not qualify an 'iPhone 7' hater.

Lastly, not only are you negative regarding the iPhone 7, now your reflecting your negativity towards to the KeyNote. I, for one, am looking forward to this, as are many others. Again, you exhibit someone who is bitter, just to be bitter.

Let's move on from this post, it's evident you are not understanding me.

Bitter!!? You misunderstood I was polite with you atleast or anyone else you pointaing out. i am also looking forward to the keynote not you alone and i am also going to buy iPhone 7 32 GB same color you pointed out so whats the NEGATIVE OR WRONG you see here.you trying to OUTNUMBER me here without no reason,read your previous posts where you stated me as spade, misquoted,wrong.... (damn isn't it inconsiderate)and after this i don't know what you are trying me to understand i am a loyal apple customer like you ( owned every iPhone since the original and maybe owned more iPhones than you) and whatever!!! i still gonna see you on the bring launch. I better be polite than bitter.best of luck see you

 

[MisterAndrew]

I'm pretty disappointed by the loss of the headphone jack. I want to be able to plug a regular 3.5mm mini plug into it and charge it at the same time. The water resistance feature is neat, but I can't picture myself taking it into the shower and if I dropped it off the side of a boat it's going to disappear forever anyways. About the only thing I see that it's good for is if you dropped it in the toilet.

 

[truthertech]

Agreed. And even if it didn't, it would still be one more device to charge, all so that Apple can "fix" something that wasn't broken in the first place.

The worst part is that it is so completely unnecessary. Samsung's recent hardware manages to have much better waterproofing (IP68) than the rumored iPhone 7 WITHOUT removing the headphone jack.

I mean IPX7? Give me a break. IPX7 basically means if you splash it slightly and dry it off quickly enough, it probably won't die. That's really not significantly better than the iPhone 6S, other than the fact that it is officially rated now.

If this is really the best Apple can do even after removing the headphone jack, then I have to seriously wonder if Tesla really is stealing all their good engineers. I would have expected IP69K from Apple by now, or at least for them to catch up with the competition and ship IP68. Instead, they failed epically to keep up, and in a desperate attempt to not fall even further behind, were forced to remove hardware that a sizable percentage of its users depend upon on a daily basis, thus forcing users to buy unnecessary dongles that can break off in the lightning port and render your $800 phone worthless.

Seriously? This is what passes for "innovation" at Apple now? Sad. Just sad.

First off, we don't even know what the next iPhone will have, only rumors. But more importantly, You have completely misstated what IPX7 means when you say it is splash only. In fact, IPX7 requires the phone to withstand immersion under water for 30 minutes at 1meter. You say Apple should be at IP69K by now? Well, no consumer product manufacturer is, because it doesn't have anything to do with consumer electronic devices. The IP69K rating is for applications where high pressure and high temperature washdown is used to sanitize equipment.

Are you so emotionally invested in your Android device that you need to make things up? You can enjoy your Samsung without having to distort the truth. The path to happiness is not through your phone, really.

 

[MJD Dawg]

So no more 64 GB? Assume they'll be charging me more for the 128 GB then.

 

[dumastudetto]

Free adapter ? Apple must be worried about backlash. #nojackgate

It would be a surprising lack of confidence.

I'd expect them to sell an adapter if people really must have one, but otherwise we think you should embrace the future and let go of that very old and inefficient connector.

 

[truthertech]

How does removing the headphone jack move the world forwards? Moving forwards means replacing old tech with something that is clearly better. This isn't doing that.

On the Lightning side, it is replacing a standard connector with a proprietary connector. That's moving the world backwards by any reasonable measure. Further, the Lightning connector is clearly inferior strength-wise to the 3.5mm mini plug, and because there's only one, if you damage it, your phone is unchargeable. In relative terms, that's one step forwards and about ten steps back.

And Bluetooth means no more wires, but comes at a cost of having to charge the batteries in your headphones pretty much every single day. At best, that's a wash, and a lot of people really don't like the idea of having a radio transmitter in their ears, so really Bluetooth is a step backwards, too, even if they manage to increase the battery life to a week per charge, make it low-latency, and prevent dropouts completely. Until then, it is several steps backwards.

Just because something has been around for four decades doesn't mean that it is out of date. If anything, the fact that it has been around for four decades usually means that it is a really good design that serves a particular need better than anything else. The sweet spot for innovation is between 5 and 15 years. If it hasn't been around for 5 years, it probably isn't crufty enough to replace yet. If it has been around for more than 15 years, there's probably a really good reason not to replace it.

Relax. No one will be thinking the iPhone 7 will be a step backwards. It sounds like the next iPhone will have the best of all worlds. Great lightning headphones with all that will bring, e.g., two way controls, an adapter for those who have legacy earphones the want to use, and fantastic new wireless options with Apple's Airpots, etc. Plus better speaker sound for the millions of users who listen to their phones without any earphones.

All that in a package with better battery life, stronger, sharper screen with True Tone color, improved waterproofing and rustproofing, faster charging, newly improved worlds fastest and most powerful processor, new color choices, better microphones, better flash, Optical Image Stabilization, new low light camera lens, new duo lens system, double base memory, double max memory, plus whatever else hasn't been leaked. The advancements will be such that around 70 million people, let that number sink in, will be excited to buy it by the end of this Christmas season, and close to 200 million by the end of its first year.

 

[Starfyre]

So, you down played every new feature possible for an upgrade, thinking its 'Just another 6s?' Fortunately, not everyone shares your lack there of features who agree this is a decent upgrade. This is an upgrade which will better your current device in a lot of respects. Try not to downplay the iPhone 7 before it's released, as if you have actually had the opportunity to use it.

Don't get me wrong, I am not thinking this is just another 6s. I am only trying to justify skipping iPhone 7 and waiting for the 2017 iPhone. With all the excitement of the iPhone after the 7, the best thing anyone can do is wait if they want the redesigned 2017 iPhone that has all the features of this years plus more.

Sure, the iPhone after next year will be even better no doubt, but as of right now, the 2017 iPhone is known to be a very significant upgrade given what we've seen so far.
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Being this particular article will draw the ultimate response to those who choose to support the iPhone 7 and those who will shun it, you will see a lot of mixed responses. This has been a challenging decision for some with the respect of the 3.5 Jack being deleted. On the contrary, I have read a lot of posts where customers are excited to upgrade. But the negative posts are expected and in some respects, tolerable.

I don't see it where this particular thread is turning against each other. Some of the positive and negative posts have made some very compelling arguments. The Community needs both to see opposing views, which provides a further understanding.

I am excited about the upgrade, but I need more reasons to not upgrade and wait until the 2017 iPhone is released.

 

[truthertech]

Know what's interesting? I was comparing my old photos taken on my 5S to my 6 Plus, and to my eyes the 5S look better, sharper, better color. I think the camera in the 6+ just isn't very good. And it is my least favorite iPhone to date as well. Apple really crippled it by giving it 1GB of ram, the upscaling to proper resolution really sucks more life out of it than I think they initially realized. Or maybe they realized it and didn't care. Either way, it's a shoddy device for how much it costs if you ask me. I too will likely stick to the smaller size after not being able to hold this phone comfortably, text one-handed, etc. I think it's absolutely ridiculous to price-gauge for an upgrade if you're also changing the ergonomics of the device. It's one thing to upcharge for a better camera, but the devices are not the same. I'd pay more for a dual lens camera on the iPhone 7 standard size. Shame on Apple.

It would be a surprising lack of confidence.

I'd expect them to sell an adapter if people really must have one, but otherwise we think you should embrace the future and let go of that very old and inefficient connector.

Why is giving customers the best of both worlds-- new lightning earbuds with all the benefits, and an adapter for those who have legacy earphones that they still want to use have anything to do with confidence? Relax, because it will soon be over and you will be happy to join the 200 million people worldwide who will be excited to buy this phone in its first year.

 

[kentsydney]

In a sense, I hope your correct. But I don't see Apple including Bluetooth EarPods in the box, and like you said, for a high premium if they do. And at a higher premium, what does that do to the consumer if they are not interested in Bluetooth EarPods, versus the wired EarPods, which they have been including for years. Does the customer want to pay for an iPhone with Bluetooth EarPods for an extra &150.00-$200.000, added to the original iPhone cost?

I think with the adapter and the lightning EarPods, it's Apple's way of still providing a 'Work around' for the current inconvenience.

I do see the Bluetooth EarPods being demonstrated and Apple announcing them for a separate purchase in the Apple Store.

Rest assured of one thing, there will be no booing in the auditorium, no matter what the outcome is.

Doubt if they will include bt air pods either but it would be nice if it was an option ?


What would be nice would be if they included a small bt receiver with both 3.5 and lightening ports to allow people to use existing earphones or lightening ones. I have one (3.5 only) only cost $29 from jay car. Now who can argue with this allows use of lightening for charging whilst listening to your existing 3.5 or lightening phones??

 

[ThomasJL]

There have been numerous articles posted over the past few months talking about the rumor of Apple removing the 3.5mm jack. If you look back at those articles, the numbers of responses are astounding and the vast majority of responses are from people furious about the potential (probably imminent) 3.5mm jack removal.

The 3.5mm jack is a universal standard across laptops, automobiles, desktops, music players, stereos, mobile phones, tablets, even in-seat audio jacks on most passenger airlines. Removing this standard is a complete slap in the face to millions of consumers who have spent a lot of money on high quality headphones, earbuds, speakers, etc. that all use the 3.5mm standard.

I know people love to compare removing the 3.5mm jack to eliminating the old floppy or CD, but those were upgrades to new standards embraced by the entire computer industry as a move forward in technology and convenience.

If removed, Apple will have taken away a reliable open standard, replacing it with their proprietary standard, and I'm confident virtually no other equipment manufacture will ever embrace Lightning (I'm not talking about headset/earbud manufactures, I'm talking about other desktop, laptop, tablet, stereo, phone, automobile, music player, and aircraft manufactures). You are never going to see widespread acceptance of Lightning on other devices.

With this potential bonehead decision Apple does not move us forward, they lock us into a standard they control/own and move us away from the mainstream into a segregated solution that is not even available on Apple’s own computer line ... which coincidently uses the 3.5mm audio jack.

So what might Apple give us in return, maybe they shave a faction of a millimeter (bid deal) from the phone's thickness, and/or maybe we get a second (or better) speaker because they want us to believe we need some kind of so-called “stereo sound”. It’s pathetic!

Give us back the 3.5mm jack and keep your second/improved speaker. We don’t need a so-called stereo in our pockets.

What a well thought out and well said post! Thank you.

It is fallacious to state that removal of the 3.5 mm jack is similar to removal of the floppy drive.

When I invested money into a pair of earbuds from a pro audio company, I wanted to be able to use them on all my audio devices, not just my iPhone.

Furthermore, using the Lighning port for headphones will cause another inconvenience: not being able to use headphones with an iPhone and charge the battery at the same time.

 

[Abazigal]

It would be a surprising lack of confidence.

I'd expect them to sell an adapter if people really must have one, but otherwise we think you should embrace the future and let go of that very old and inefficient connector.

Apple doesn't supply a connector, people accuse them of profiteering off the sales of adaptors.

Apple supplies a connector, they get accused of back peddling on their vision.

Apple really can't win here.

 

[calzon65]

How does removing the headphone jack move the world forwards? Moving forwards means replacing old tech with something that is clearly better. This isn't doing that.

On the Lightning side, it is replacing a standard connector with a proprietary connector. That's moving the world backwards by any reasonable measure. Further, the Lightning connector is clearly inferior strength-wise to the 3.5mm mini plug, and because there's only one, if you damage it, your phone is unchargeable. In relative terms, that's one step forwards and about ten steps back.

And Bluetooth means no more wires, but comes at a cost of having to charge the batteries in your headphones pretty much every single day. At best, that's a wash, and a lot of people really don't like the idea of having a radio transmitter in their ears, so really Bluetooth is a step backwards, too, even if they manage to increase the battery life to a week per charge, make it low-latency, and prevent dropouts completely. Until then, it is several steps backwards.

Just because something has been around for four decades doesn't mean that it is out of date. If anything, the fact that it has been around for four decades usually means that it is a really good design that serves a particular need better than anything else. The sweet spot for innovation is between 5 and 15 years. If it hasn't been around for 5 years, it probably isn't crufty enough to replace yet. If it has been around for more than 15 years, there's probably a really good reason not to replace it.

Well said.

By the way, the 3.5mm jack has been around for roughly 100 years, its predecessor, the 6.35mm jack which is still used today and sometimes known as the 1/4 inch jack, has been around since 1878. To steal a phrase from Apple, it just works.

 

[Analog Kid]

How bad was your battery when it was being replaced, just out of curiosity? Most of my iPhone batteries would drastically decrease its performance around it's first anniversary mark, I'd assume it's my usage? IDK.....

Oh well, it's always another excuse for me to upgrade too, instead if spending 100 or so on an one year old device, I could just drop another 100 and get a new gen sadly not anymore with ATT getting rid of the 2 year contract thing though.

It had gotten pretty bad-- but it was also 3 or 4 years old by that point (going through a charge cycle daily). Battery life started to degrade to the point that it barely got me through a day, but the kicker was that it would reset the phone if I was doing anything battery intensive-- as the battery ages the internal resistance increases so a sudden power draw will depress the voltage and cause an apparent power failure.

Swapped the battery and good as new.

You're right though-- $100 is enough to consider whether that's better put toward an update. I'm fond of the smaller form factor, and the SE didn't give the storage size increase I would need to justify the upgrade so I decided to stick with the 5 for the time being.

 

[ValO]

Oh my God. Apple hasn't innovated anything or gotten an industry to 'change' since they created the first iteration of iPhone. Stop giving them so much credit.

You can't force an industry to change when what you're replacing something with isn't also an industry standard. No other manufacturer is going to use lightning ports. Are you suggesting Samsung will phase out the headphone jack and replace it with a USB-C dongle? Because that's never going to happen.

The iPhone 8 will see the return of the headphone jack. Mark my words, remember this post.

Yeah, and let us get watch tv with component cables, or vga jacks instead of hdmi.
I was very upset when they changed to hdmi and went digital.
Why?
Because I had purchased very expensive component cables , and now I am not able to use them anymore.
How could they come up with this digital hdmi crap.

 

[dumastudetto]

Why is giving customers the best of both worlds-- new lightning earbuds with all the benefits, and an adapter for those who have legacy earphones that they still want to use have anything to do with confidence? Relax, because it will soon be over and you will be happy to join the 200 million people worldwide who will be excited to buy this phone in its first year.

Eliminating the port broadly means you want people to stop using it and move with the times. Bundling an adapter builds resistance to your view of the future. John Gruber said he would be very surprised if Apple put an adapter in the box, and for very similar reasons.