iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model

[Mindbomb2000]

You have to consider where tocks fell. The 5, for example, didn't fare so well without an update for 3 years. There is quite the gulf between the processing power in the 5S and the 5. I took my 5 up to iOS 9 beta and it literally died. It struggled on 8 as it was, but I figured that it didn't matter since I was getting the 6S that year anyway.

Good points. I've been on a two-year "s" cycle since the iPhone 3 (skipped the 6s). Which I think is the way to go. I'm going to get the 7, and skip the 8. I like to get phones after the first iteration has worked out the bugs.

I also work on a new iMac, and the thing flys. Though, I can't for the life of me understand why it ships with a 5400 HD. Waiting for the next Mac Pro update.

 

[jeyf]

i just hope it:
-no 3rd degree burns to my body if it catches fire
-dosnt have to be held like a chop stick in order not to cover up the antenna
-no bend gate, no unresponsive screen 1 year later
-lasts >2years + one day

go apple quality control

some how i worry it will not perform as expected

 

[B4U]

Wow. Good one. You must have gone to the Samsung School of Originality.
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Nah. You just made your own dots, and then linked them as you saw fit.

Nope. Read once again and the dots are there.

 

[Mildredop]

I'll say. Malware on Android is primarily a concern if you change the default configuration to permit app installation from third party app stores. Otherwise it's pretty much a non-issue.
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While I haven't read all 46 pages to know if someone has brought this up or not I can say the loss of the 3.5mm headphone jack affects more than just headphones. Many credit card readers plug into the jack. Losing the jack will require adapters or new solutions.

Oh. I didn't know that.

 

[CFreymarc]

Here are my experienced guesses.

Why doesn't Apple move that tag to the much larger Lightning hole nearby- probably won't even need the endoscopes for that one.

The lightning connector has very tight tolerances. Anything that has a chromatography surface, changes in thickness when reporting a chemical detection result. Putting this in a Lightning connector could jam the connector. On the contrast, 3.5-mm connectors have a LOT of tolerances and play for that jack shoved in.

Or how about putting the tag in the faux speaker holes on the side where the 3.5mm jack used to be?

If they want to have it water proof, then no need for this sensor.

I know, I know. Water can only enter the 3.5mm jack hole. Water chooses to ignore those other holes.

See first reply. If you never messed with chromatography paper, give it a try. It is not as clean-cut and dry and solid state devices most of us are used to working with in consumer tech.

 

[doelcm82]

My Galaxy S7 Edge is waterproof and has a 3.5mm headphone jack.

Maybe if they removed the headphone jack it would be even more waterproof.

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s7-not-quite-waterproof-torture-tests-reveal/

 

[Tompkinson]

Are you saying people should spend money they haven't got and thus put themselves into debt?

I believe what the poster was implying is: in Europe the Dutch - along with the Scots - have a reputation for being very tight & ungenerous with money.
According to wikipedia: 'The Dutch are stereotyped as being "stingy" or "tight-fisted"'.
Just a stereotype and like all stereotypes.
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Okay, what about a bigger battery capacity in a smaller profile? Like Samsung put a 3000 mAh battery in the S7? Can't say no to having a better battery.

Battery is fine for me. no need for better battery.
Non-negotiable for me is: strong security, reliable connectivity (phone+data), good camera quality, fast app changing etc.
iPhone delivers on these, samsung probably also, Idk, never used one.

 

[abhibeckert]

My Galaxy S7 Edge is waterproof and has a 3.5mm headphone jack.

No it's not.

Multiple independent tests have proven the S7 fails water proofing tests, despite Samsing's IP68 claim which is an industry standard with a clearly defined test process (5 feet under for 30 minutes).

Waterproofing tests resulted in screen failures, permanent speaker damage, camera lenses filling with water (which is nearly impossible to fix since being water resistant makes it hard to get the water out of the camera), and some devices died completely, with a CPU or similar failure.

Your S7 is only water resistant, just like any other well made electronic device. I've exposed various iPhone models to rain or brief/accidental submersion hundreds of times over the years, and only one has ever needed repair.

 

[Tompkinson]

Yeah that didn't happen, IPhones don't last that long and even Apple will admit that and no one believes you.

Why would that no happen? it's entirely possible.
I expect s/he wasn't using navigation software at the airport, so possibly nothing was draining the battery too much. Why are you so sceptical of this experience?
Am I missing something obvious?
I expect that for some of the 24 hours there was some sleep involved too.

 

[Abazigal]

Okay, what about a bigger battery capacity in a smaller profile? Like Samsung put a 3000 mAh battery in the S7? Can't say no to having a better battery.

My 6S+ routinely ends the day at over 40+%.

I don't mind extra battery, up to the point where it more than suffices in lasting me through the day. Beyond that point, extra battery would simply be added bulk and weigh for no noticeable benefit to me.

 

[Tompkinson]

Dislike buttons are antisocial. Nothing false about my statement. Just being honest. Expressing my dissatisfaction in Apple. In big letters to drive the point home. Maybe you don't see it the same way. And. That's okay.

One could say that: agreeing or disagreeing with your point aside - your big letters have a similarly antisocial flavour to a dislike button.
If your point is good and well made, there will be no need to shout in big letters and drive points home.
Most people here can read & comprehend, even in the standard font size.
Shouting often weakens a point in a debate, as it will be ignored by many.
Illustrated by the fact that most - if not all - replies to your post have been about your style rather than your content.

 

[ErikGrim]

For the umpteenth time, stop referring to Ming-Chi Kuo as a male. She is a woman.

I don't want to assume gender, but...

http://www.cultofmac.com/273923/ming-chi-kuo/

 

[Rogifan]

Saw this on twitter. Big mistake IMO if Apple ditches headphone jack and makes wireless headphones super expensive.

Abdel Ibrahim (@abdophoto)
9/4/16, 7:01 PM
On latest @atpfm @marcoarment speculates that Apple’s AirPods would cost $100. If what Ive heard is true, they’ll be a lot more than that.

 

[ErikGrim]

I wish we could ban this phrase. We are privileged enough to be commenting on technology in a forum using expensive technology so it goes without saying that the problems we're discussing are going to be those of the 1st world.

Hear hear!

 

[Rafterman]

No it's not.

Multiple independent tests have proven the S7 fails water proofing tests, despite Samsing's IP68 claim which is an industry standard with a clearly defined test process (5 feet under for 30 minutes).

Waterproofing tests resulted in screen failures, permanent speaker damage, camera lenses filling with water (which is nearly impossible to fix since being water resistant makes it hard to get the water out of the camera), and some devices died completely, with a CPU or similar failure.

Your S7 is only water resistant, just like any other well made electronic device. I've exposed various iPhone models to rain or brief/accidental submersion hundreds of times over the years, and only one has ever needed repair.

Actually, the S7 Active (differnet from the S7 or S7 Edge) was the one that had a fault with its waterproofing and Samsung fixed it at the assembly line.

 

[Sunny1990]

Define "need" and "we", please.

(we)A lot of members agree with my statement and if you don't agree it doesn't matter to me or anyone and yeah we need a all new design with small bezels and oled display

 

[noles1983]

dem bezels going on 9 years strong now.

 

[OTACORB]

Why would that no happen? it's entirely possible.
I expect s/he wasn't using navigation software at the airport, so possibly nothing was draining the battery too much. Why are you so sceptical of this experience?
Am I missing something obvious?
I expect that for some of the 24 hours there was some sleep involved too.

What smartypants got his/her panties in a wad over was the fact that I compared it to the 2 coworkers that charged their Android phones twice while I went the whole 24 hours on a single charge. We all used our phones about the same amount of time, though I didn't time it exactly. Nonetheless, I was using low power mode they were not. We all were using our phones occasionally to text, email and use Facebook. This was over a full 24 hour period. Smartypants doesn't do well with reading comprehension... hesheit wants to believe whatever hesheit wants, so I am cool with that. LOL

 

[abhibeckert]

You're viewing this through rose colored glasses. This chart seems to suggest that Apple is on the decline for three straight quarters:

That chart is extremely misleading. If you look at a long term chart, dating back to 2007, it's clear their 2016 numbers are very strong:

In the early years, apple's "growth" was really just "selling in more countries on more cell networks than they ever did before".

2012 was the first year where iPhones were truly available on almost any carrier, and afterwards their growth was slow and steady for 3 years

In 2015 they added new screen sizes which created a temporary burst in sales that could never be matched in 2016 especially since many people are locked into a 24 month device repayment plan.

2016 growth is right on track with normal growth, and 2017 is likely to see another bubble of growth as all those new customers in 2015 reach the end of their 24 month contract.

 

[ErikGrim]

2016 growth is right on track with normal growth, and 2017 is likely to see another bubble of growth as all those new customers in 2015 reach the end of their 24 month contract.

So much this. Ignoring the abnormal growth in 2015, you can pretty much draw a straight line through 2012-2016.

 

[abhibeckert]

Actually, the S7 Active (differnet from the S7 or S7 Edge) was the one that had a fault with its waterproofing and Samsung fixed it at the assembly line.

The S7 and S7 Edge also failed the same tests (permanent speaker damage), and Samsung didn't fix it as far as I know.

 

[DCIFRTHS]

Deleted. To be posted later..

 

[KmanOz]

Remember when iPhone announcements felt exciting? Those were the days.

Yeah..... If you want real excitement buy a Samsung. Those things blow up. Now that's excitement! One minute you're killing Pokemons (or whatever you do to them) and the next your phone is killing you. BOOOOOOMMMM

 

[ITguy2016]

Maybe if they removed the headphone jack it would be even more waterproof.

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s7-not-quite-waterproof-torture-tests-reveal/

Galaxy S7 is waterproof rated IP68. According to Samsung there was a manufacturing issue and not a design flaw which led to the issue. It certainly was not because the phone contains a 3.5mm headphone jack.

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s7-active-waterproof-flaw-found-and-fixed/

 

[AdamskiUK]

And? I didn't say there was no malware. I said it primarily affects those who use third party app stores. People, Charlie Millier for example, have snuck things past Apple to get their "malware" into the app store. Apple is not immune.

I'm an Android user (despite having an iPhone 6 sitting around collecting dust) and don't even think about malware. Malware is essentially a non issue for most people using the Google play store.

And? And? Hahahaha...

The Android news world is littered with reports of many, many people having to deal with malware. That's what you get if you don't properly sandbox your apps. You might not worry because you might be a relatively competent Android user. All those mums and dads who are new to smartphones aren't so wise. They don't know to avoid downloading FREE HD WALLPAPERS 4 U FREE. You could say their stupidity, but if Google wasn't so incompetent, it would then be a REAL non-issue.