iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model

[KJL3000]

It's odd that for a forum dealing with new tech - where the future should be exciting - there is a very strong nostalgic flavour here, almost a dread of the future.
"I want to be able to do what I have become accustomed to", "everything is fine now, stop changing things", "keynotes were better before", " I miss Steve", etc

That's because Apple makes some disappointing decisions lately and I am missing the innovative part. So, yes, I'm getting nostalgical feelings when I remember keynotes that blew up our minds with great new products and innovative design, even if they dropped some standards, because it made sense... I really miss that, yes...

 

[ARK]

I'm not reading all through this thread, it's too long. But I wonder how many people are listening to music through their wired headphones and have the phone charging at the same time with their current device? Just seems.....idk....unnatural. So why are we making a big deal?

Unnatural? That's amusing ;-)
I can think of many things often described as "unnatural", but phone charging methods haven't been mentioned in that category before.

To your question: why do you find it an odd practice? I have never done this, but wouldn't it seem a pretty normal thing to do if you want your battery to remain full/recharge, while listening to music?
Or while making many phone calls using headset and keeping the phone plugged into the power?
What's unnatural?

My wife does this all the time.

 

[Gudi]

I just simply don't get why this thread attracts 1.2k reply. This is the most one I have seen recently.

Because this is the final Ming-Chi Kuo prediction two days before the event.

- New A10 chip from TSMC that could top out at 2.4-2.45 GHz

That's a 30% speed bump from the clock speed alone.

 

[recoil80]

Can we expect an exciting montage of people using their phones in unusually wet conditions, doing active things like mountain biking and snorkeling with their water resistant phones? Then, although it falls in a puddle or gets dunked in the ocean - they still get the perfect shot of that post-storm-rainbow / ocean sunset etc? Afterwards sharing it with the new Snapchat infused iMessage?

We can expect a video of Eddy Cue singing while taking a shower with his new iPhone 7 and waterproof Beats headphones.
Your idea is good too
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My wife does this all the time.

I do it usually at office when making phone calls with the iPhone connected to my iMac.
I always plug in EarPods while making calls to be able to use both hands for mouse and keyboard

 

[Larry-K]

The event invite is like the dynamic wallpapers in iOS.

Apple clearly getting ready to switch its Mac line to ARM processors.

All the innovations in recent years (hardware and software) have originated on iOS devices and then been ported to Macs (Siri, force touch, fingerprint login, etc, etc, etc).

Apple has a plan, and that plan isn't centred around Intel.

Let's see how many third-party software developers decide it's worth the trouble to port their software.

It'll be hard to stamp "Pro' on everything, when FCPX is the only "Pro" App available.

 

[I7guy]

If the anniversary phone rumours are true, it seem to have everything that I want:

- long-range wireless charging
- no bezels
- no physical home button
- glass body

Something Steve Jobs would be proud of.

The Steve Phone.

The Steve phone by Tim?

 

[pkissel]

Sold. Just really wish it had fast charging or wireless charging or even both.but fast charging was something I reaaaallly wanted. My time with the S7 series made me really enjoy rapid charging.

The only thing holding me back from switching from Android to iOS is the smaller battery and subpar voice recognition/automation. If Apple would start supporting a Quick Charge technology I wouldn't care how big the phone's battery was. With my Motorola phone I can do a fast charge in 15 minutes between flights and never run out of power while traveling. When I ask my phone something it usually gets the voice to text correct and actually gives me a useful response. My wife's iPhone 6 doesn't seem to be able to understand what I'm saying and when it does it just says "I found a couple of websites for you." Disappointing for a company with so much money for R&D.

 

[gnasher729]

and your phone is powered by unlimited dream energy?

My phone is recharged all the time. If I don't charge it, I have no phone, no music, no internet, no camera, no games, no nothing. Headphones with batteries need their battery replaced once in a while, and if you don't have a battery with you, that's it. (I use noise cancelling headphones that still play music, but with atrocious sound quality and no noise cancelling, when the battery is gone. Bluetooth headphones with empty battery are just very, very quiet

 

[I7guy]

The only thing holding me back from switching from Android to iOS is the smaller battery and subpar voice recognition/automation. If Apple would start supporting a Quick Charge technology I wouldn't care how big the phone's battery was. With my Motorola phone I can do a fast charge in 15 minutes between flights and never run out of power while traveling. When I ask my phone something it usually gets the voice to text correct and actually gives me a useful response. My wife's iPhone 6 doesn't seem to be able to understand what I'm saying and when it does it just says "I found a couple of websites for you." Disappointing for a company with so much money for R&D.

When I travel I take my anker 26000 mah battery and don't have to plug in for five days. I usually use Siri to control the phone, never used voice for searching even on home computer.

 

[gnasher729]

From what I understand IPX7 provides protection from immersion in water with a depth of up to 1 meter (3.2ft) for up to 30 mins. Basically you're covered against rain, splashing and accidental water submersion, in addition to protection against sustained pressure water jets and pressure washer that you've described. So overall a step in the right direction.

Protection against pressure washer? I have a cheap pressure washer; more expensive models have twice the power. With the one I own, the question isn't whether there will be water entering your phone, but how far your phone will be flying if I aim the pressure washer at it. You will definitely not be able to hold it in your hand.

I just hope for Apple's sake that they make no guarantee that the phone would be in any way waterproof. Or add "intentional exposure to water" to the things that are not covered by warranty. Samsung made that the experience that there will be idiots who have to test it and then want a new phone.

 

[ValO]

Let's see how many third-party software developers decide it's worth the trouble to port their software.

It'll be hard to stamp "Pro' on everything, when FCPX is the only "Pro" App available.

And that is wherry the ipad pro's will come in and what was the most important reason the ipad pro' s were introduced with far more powerful hw.
A reason to convert pro x-86 programs/software to arm, although perhaps in a slimmed down version of its desktop counterpart. ( an new market, ipad pro will sell at least the same amounts of macs each quarter, which dedveloper wouldn' t want to get in that market?) When the supply is enough and all big players have released a special ipad pro version. Apple will release arm based macs with more powerful socs than their ipad counterparts, and developers only need to " expand" their slimmed down versions again. And the conversion is complete.
After that tech in ipad pro's will get more advanced and be able to run full versions of pro apps.
And apple is ready for hybrid devices.

Really smart.....
A real scalable os with scalable hw for different applications and purposes.

 

[Iceman9294]

and your phone is powered by unlimited dream energy?

The power on your Bluetooth headset

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think it is quite okay, but not as innovative as Samsung Note 7, that include a gimmicky Iris Scanner (at least they tried).

Tbh, I really like the Samsung Note 7 curved screen. It looks better and give edge-to-edge screen impression rather than flat screen, and possibility to replace the micro sd with second sim card is another important feature for me.

Will you say that the iPhone 8 is a gimmick if it includes an iris scanner like it is rumoured to do so?

 

[GR33NIE]

Realistic price point for these devices in the UK ? Looking forward to the keynote but think I'll end up with an SE if I come back to iOS rather than taking out another iMortgage for an overpriced phone
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Goodbye one-handed use, ugh.

This is the exact reason I am debating an SE...

 

[TheBigDog]

How is water resistance a killer feature but a headphone port is not. Get it together Apple

 

[Shanghaichica]

Realistic price point for these devices in the UK ? Looking forward to the keynote but think I'll end up with an SE if I come back to iOS rather than taking out another iMortgage for an overpriced phone
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This is the exact reason I am debating an SE...

Hopefully the same price as the existing 6S plus models. Could be more though.

 

[anomie]

If the anniversary phone rumours are true, it seem to have everything that I want:

- long-range wireless charging
- no bezels
- no physical home button
- glass body

Something Steve Jobs would be proud of.

The Steve Phone.

If the anniversary phone rumours are true, it seem to have everything that I want:

- long-range wireless charging
- no bezels
- no physical home button
- glass body

Something Steve Jobs would be proud of.

The Steve Phone.

Funny. I don´t want anything from your list. Ok, except "long-range wireless charging", that is something I just don´t NEED.
Steve Jobs...man, it´s the end of 2016, get over that guy!
Although I´d like him to still be alive, I am sure many people in the company are quite happy working without him since he wasn´t a very nice person.
And in the long term, good developers need goos surroundings, so I guess Jobs today wouldn´t have played an important role anyway.
You should not forget, that he messed up a lot of products during his career and had a few hits, too.

 

[Jimrod]

Realistic price point for these devices in the UK ? Looking forward to the keynote but think I'll end up with an SE if I come back to iOS rather than taking out another iMortgage for an overpriced phone

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This is the exact reason I am debating an SE...

I just sold my iPhone 6 (mainly due to dying battery - seems a common problem with the 6) and got an SE because I prefer the size and because the 7 looks "meh". I couldn't be happier with it, the only thing I've had to adjust to is typing a little more carefully but the phone's starting to learn my common misspellings already. It's a great phone. I do hope Apple continue to release this size phone in future, there's a huge gap for high performance models under 4.7" in the market that's all theirs and Sony's at present.

 

[GR33NIE]

I just sold my iPhone 6 (mainly due to dying battery - seems a common problem with the 6) and got an SE because I prefer the size and because the 7 looks "meh". I couldn't be happier with it, the only thing I've had to adjust to is typing a little more carefully but the phone's starting to learn my common misspellings already. It's a great phone. I do hope Apple continue to release this size phone in future, there's a huge gap for high performance models under 4.7" in the market that's all theirs and Sony's at present.

Battery life pretty ace too apparently, sounds like you made the right decision! I have been offered a cheap contract with Vodafone for the SE... think I might bite the bullet but will wait until the announcement Weds

 

[Jimrod]

Battery life pretty ace too apparently, sounds like you made the right decision! I have been offered a cheap contract with Vodafone for the SE... think I might bite the bullet but will wait until the announcement Weds

Yeah, definitely very good battery life - I'll get a better idea of it once I stop accidentally playing Pokemon Go at nearly 40 years old... I think I'm having a mid-life crisis.

If my 6 battery would have been ok I'd probably have waited to see the 7 but that and the good sell price (£290!) swayed me to cough up just another £140 for a 64GB SE. I'd imagine the 6 won't be worth anywhere near as much by the end of this week!

 

[elmaco]

Funny. I don´t want anything from your list. Ok, except "long-range wireless charging", that is something I just don´t NEED.

Why would you not like the screen to cover the whole area? The phone can still have virtual bezels, if it would be useful for some reason.

And why a physical button, when you instead could have a row of virtual button?. One could be the home button, but the other could be camera, flash light or whatever you choose

And long-range wireless charging would be awesome. Just walk around in the room and it charges in your pocket automatically. McDonalds and other places could have charging station to attract customers.

Never worry about your phone not being charged.

 

[anomie]

How is water resistance a killer feature but a headphone port is not. Get it together Apple

You have a lack of vision, so maybe YOU shoud get it together.
There is a headphone port, but not the ancient analog jack.
It´s always the same with innovations: most people are get afraid to loose what they were used to before they realize how unimportant it was.

 

[hovercroft]

What's the point of this? It should include the reversed 3.5 mm jack to Lightning adapter so you could plug any headphones into this iPhone.

 

[anomie]

Why would you not like the screen to cover the whole area? The phone can still have virtual bezels, if it would be useful for some reason.

And why a physical button, when you instead could have a row of virtual button? One could be the home button, but the other could be camera, flash light or whatever you choose

And long-range wireless charging would be awesome. Just walk around in the room and it charges in your pocket automatically.

Again, I never needed that, my battery is fine, I charge it in the evening or at the office. It´d be ok if it is implemented, but I wouldn´t be to excited (the time of the killer features is over, anyway)
I like the feel of a real button. And from my experience it is more reliable than a virtual button that could possibly freeze.
I like a physical frame around my screen, all those bezel free mockups look awkward to me.
Especially this one:
https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/VV...us_image/image/49788111/iphone-portrait.0.jpg
Looks incomplete, don´t like it. You might feel different, but our opinions show, how difficult it is for Apple to make it right for every customer.

 

[Keirasplace]

Why would you not like the screen to cover the whole area? The phone can still have virtual bezels, if it would be useful for some reason.

And why a physical button, when you instead could have a row of virtual button?. One could be the home button, but the other could be camera, flash light or whatever you choose

And long-range wireless charging would be awesome. Just walk around in the room and it charges in your pocket automatically. McDonalds and other places could have charging station to attract customers.

Never worry about your phone not being charged.

Long range means transmitting quite a bit of power through the air... And you think people are worried about radio waves now... I don't see this happening for cell phones though it could work for Internet of Things devices.

The reason for not having the screen to the edge? What about actually not always being afraid of killing your phone in a fall? Even with a virtual bezel, your still potentialy getting light bleed from the edge (like the edge) and I don't want that.

Actually feeling the button's position is an important reason for not having it in the screen unless the whole screen becomes a button/touch ID pad when locked... But, considering you now can open an app from the lock screen, how would that work correctly.