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I went to the Note 7 and if course it gets recalled. I really love this phone from a design perspective it puts Apple to shame. The screen, bezels, wireless and quick charging are great features.

Apple on the other hand kills it with the CPU and GPU. I don't play games but I give credit where it is due. I only wish I could use iOS on the Note 7 once the batteries are fixed of course haha.
 
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IPX7 is interesting as that classification included the ability to sustain pressurised water jets. Pressure washer etc.

Def a step in the right direction.

Nope, IPX7 only specifies no water ingress at 1M for 30 minutes. It is not inclusive for ratings below 7.
 
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I think that's the ONLY thing Apple has going for it at this point. Based on these specs, the samsung note 7 is one year more advanced.

It's funny how the the 2017 iphone has all the feature the note 7 already has: OLED screen, adopt some sort of edge tech, IRIS scanner.... and wireless charging (except samsung uses Qi which isn't the greatest)

I think we have to be realistic and while it's funny those Notes got recalled, I give it to Samsung for pushing the boundaries of hardware. WTF is Apple doing, colour innovation?

In the SoC? The internal i/o? The Note 7 is still arguably behind even the iPhone 6s on those. There are more areas in hardware than the ones you mentioned (which are important too, and Samsung should get credit for implementing them first, but it's just that clearly Apple is also excelling in areas where Samsung is behind). I mean, to ship a phone in 2016 that *anyone* finds stuttery and laggy? I'm sorry, but that shows a severe problem with priorities.

It's just really annoying that Apple is producing some of the best internals in the industry, and people that are supposed to be tech savvy complain that all Apple is doing is "adding colors". I thought geeks were the ones who knew that if they swap out their old CPU for a new one, swap out their old Radeon 7950 for a GTX 1080, and switch their SATA boot drive to a PCIe SSD, their computer is massively upgraded even if the external case stays the same. For some reason if that's done with a phone you get pages of whining that "nothing's changed"...
 

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And also include a faster more power-efficient processor... new cameras... better water-resistance... etc.

;)
Yearly processor upgrade...
Slightly improved water resistance...
Removed audio jack...

2 cameras for the Plus model of questionable utility... Sounds like it's added just for zooming. Boring.

And still with all these huge upgrades they feel the need to add more colors.

Piano black my ass.
 
The 3.5mm jack is a universal standard (...) Removing this standard is a complete slap in the face to millions of consumers who have spent a lot of money on high quality headphones, earbuds, speakers, etc. that all use the 3.5mm standard.

Give us back the 3.5mm jack and keep your second/improved speaker. We don’t need a so-called stereo in our pockets.


"give us back"... ? You sound like a 5 year old.
You do realise that apple don't owe you anything, they are not obliged to give you anything beyond what is agreed in warranty etc.
You do realise that when you buy any device: compatibilities changes as companies launch new products?

Perhaps apple are convinced that leaving out the 3,5mm jack leads to a genuinely better product, or perhaps they have merely come up with a scheme to make lots of money by 'forcing' you to buy their adapters etc.
Either way: it is their decision, you do not have any rights to demand they do anything beyond what is agreed by warranty.
Buy their stuff or don't buy it.
If you use apple products: you have enough money to buy new headphones etc.
Sounding like a spoiled brat who wants to dictate what ports apple employ on their devices is a little silly.
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Are these rumors always true? Because a dual camera is a pretty serious upgrade tbh.
They're rumours.
They are often close to the truth.
Sometimes they are not.
 
But apple has always been proprietary. Lightening/30 pin instead of USB. MagSafe instead of whatever pcs use. DisplayPort/thunderbolt instead of vga/hdmi.

...but those all had clear advantages over the alternative: the 30 pin connector carried power, analog audio, component video, USB and (originally) firewire. Lightning replaced those with a "smart" reversible connector years before USB-C arrived. Magsafe had the whole, well, "magsafe" thing, plus there was no real alternative standard (it was pot luck whether any two PC laptop power supplies would be interchangeable). VGA and DVI are too bulky for slim laptops, and you'd need to include VGA, DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort to keep everybody happy. Apple released MiniDisplayPort as a standard (cables are commonplace) and the rMBPs, Mac Mini and Mac Pro have had HDMI for years, and Thunderbolt did things that other connectors couldn't.

However, now, USB-C would be a perfectly viable replacement for Lightning (in fact, Apple had a role in its development and it obviously shares some heritage with Lightning). Future Macs will probably have USB-C (the MacBook already does) so USB-C headphones would work across devices. Changing the socket is never going to be popular short term (and would cause a bit of landfill) but it would be better to do it now, before people go out and buy Lightning headphones.
 
"give us back"... ? You sound like a 5 year old.
You do realise that apple don't owe you anything, they are not obliged to give you anything beyond what is agreed in warranty etc.
You do realise that when you buy any device: compatibilities changes as companies launch new products?

Perhaps apple are convinced that leaving out the 3,5mm jack leads to a genuinely better product, or perhaps they have merely come up with a scheme to make lots of money by 'forcing' you to buy their adapters etc.
Either way: it is their decision, you do not have any rights to demand they do anything beyond what is agreed by warranty.
Buy their stuff or don't buy it.
If you use apple products: you have enough money to buy new headphones etc.
Sounding like a spoiled brat who wants to dictate what ports apple employ on their devices is a little silly.

Thank you so much for clearing that up, I did not know Apple is allowed to make these kinds of decisions.

Since my posts on this subject consistently receive more likes that other posts on the same subject, I was lulled into a false sense of feeling vindicated, but then as a 5-year old, I am allowed some slack in my opinions.
 
All of these rumors have leaked in the past few months. How are people just now saying it's exciting? Lol blows my mind...

There are rumors each year as the next MacBook Pro having some sort of display on the keyboard.

Typically of 10 rumors, only a few happen. I've heard many of these rumors already. Except removing the home button this year. I heard that for 2017. Seeing a post somewhat suggesting all these things will happen this year not just a few is exciting to me.

In general though. Do you think the people that go to the keynotes haven't heard these rumors? Yet each year there is a big applause as confirmation plus explanation of the operation leads to excitation.
 
Bummer, i really wish they would release something like the MacBook Pro that is not anodised or tinted so will not look scuffed after a few minutes in pockets without a case. I would also love a steel one! I'll forgive the weight for the added ruggedness but i assume tooling for steel would mean it was totally out of the question.
There used to be iPods with a steel back, they were super scratchy very quickly, and the stainless steel Apple Watch scratches easily too. My aluminium iPhone is almost a year old, carried in my pocket without a case, so far no visible scratches.
 
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Wonder if the black models will scratch to hell like previous versions
Depended how people used it. I have had several "slate" black Apple devices, the ones that people accused of poor scratch resistance but for me, i never had a problem even though i never put them in a case or even bumper, after 1-2 years of use they looked almost brand new.

Yes, the "slate" black was not as durable as the "space grey" but some people expect to be able to manhandle their devices way to much, some people stating that they put their phone in the same pocket as keys, coins and other crap that will obviously scratch any device and then proceeded to complain that their slate devices was all messed up, yes, its easy to scratch them but it is just as easy to not scratch them.

I would love for Apple to introduce a slate black or piano black iPhone and other iDevices again.
 
Here, there is no evidence that 3.5mm is on the decline and the move is to a wholly untested closed replacement.

A majority of my acquaintances don't use the headphone jack, they use bluetooth. As do I. Happy to have got rid of nuisance cables years ago.
I understand that some people have bought expensive headphones, and it seems - according to some posts here - they thought that these would be compatible with the iPhone till the end of time, but the world and technology does not work like that.
I asked around my studio yesterday: almost everybody welcomes removal of useless 3.5mm jack (17 of 21 people)
 
There have been numerous articles posted over the past few months talking about the rumor of Apple removing the 3.5mm jack. If you look back at those articles, the numbers of responses are astounding and the vast majority of responses are from people furious about the potential (probably imminent) 3.5mm jack removal.

The 3.5mm jack is a universal standard across laptops, automobiles, desktops, music players, stereos, mobile phones, tablets, even in-seat audio jacks on most passenger airlines. Removing this standard is a complete slap in the face to millions of consumers who have spent a lot of money on high quality headphones, earbuds, speakers, etc. that all use the 3.5mm standard.

I know people love to compare removing the 3.5mm jack to eliminating the old floppy or CD, but those were upgrades to new standards embraced by the entire computer industry as a move forward in technology and convenience.

If removed, Apple will have taken away a reliable open standard, replacing it with their proprietary standard, and I'm confident virtually no other equipment manufacture will ever embrace Lightning (I'm not talking about headset/earbud manufactures, I'm talking about other desktop, laptop, tablet, stereo, phone, automobile, music player, and aircraft manufactures). You are never going to see widespread acceptance of Lightning on other devices.

With this potential bonehead decision Apple does not move us forward, they lock us into a standard they control/own and move us away from the mainstream into a segregated solution that is not even available on Apple’s own computer line ... which coincidently uses the 3.5mm audio jack.

So what might Apple give us in return, maybe they shave a faction of a millimeter (bid deal) from the phone's thickness, and/or maybe we get a second (or better) speaker because they want us to believe we need some kind of so-called “stereo sound”. It’s pathetic!

Give us back the 3.5mm jack and keep your second/improved speaker. We don’t need a so-called stereo in our pockets.
The 3.5mm jack is a decades old piece of technology that is long past its sell-by date. It's inefficient for the production of audio compared to digital output methods and is holding the industry back from widely adopting high quality output methods, like lighting or usb-c, and from forcing innovators to finally come up with more efficient bluetooth technology. The headphone jack is lazy. Good riddance.
 
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