iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model

[big-ted]

So are we expecting a price rise for these increased storage sizes, or are Apple feeling generous?

 

[marzer]

If you can't innovate or design then repaint it in new colors.

With TWO "colors" of black! Oh Apple, you have truly brought the 21st century to us. Let the waiting in lines begin!!

 

[BlueMoon63]

A 32GB base model (though at least three years overdue) is probably my favorite news about the iPhone 7. I was originally thinking about waiting and getting a 64GB 6S once the prices dropped but now I may as well go for the base model 7.

IPX7 is the key for many people. Granted, even the iPhone 6 was way faster the the latest Galaxy phones but the waterproof rating is huge. Ever notice that the samsung commercials have someone pouring water or champagne on the phone? That is all it is rated for... while IPX7 rating can handle being under water for 30 minutes and not just resistance to pouring water at a certain rate.

 

[agsystems]

Not too shabby after all.

Exactly - anyone with 4/5/6 will be very happy with this upgrade - since a new case its what constitutes a new phone in this forum, folks will claim this is not a solid upgrade.

While I can afford it, I am skipping it - the lost of the head jack its not a feature to me.

 

[a.gomez]

Another "catch-up" yeah for Apple. This car they making better be able to fly and have HAL as a co-pilot - or have no idea where all this R&D is going to (not to Design, that is for sure). 5 colors! so we got what - 30 SKUs now? not including the SE models. TIM is hard at work.

 

[jonnyb]

So are we expecting a price rise for these increased storage sizes, or are Apple feeling generous?

I think Apple will at least take this opportunity to adjust the post-Brexit pound to dollar ratio. Thanks, Leave voters.

 

[BootsWalking]

I knew this would happen. It's amazing that the majority of people say "they're just releasing the same phone. what's new with this one?!"

You people REALLY thought this iPhone wouldn't have worthwhile features?! And you realize not EVERY feature leaks. The design leaks, but we don't know everything it'll have.

Apple is going to sell a boatload of these phones and the phones next year...

What exactly is exciting about this release and how have these new details nullified people's complaints that they're releasing the same phone? We're talking about a bump in processor speed, 1GB more + dual cameras on one model, improved water resistance, new colors, a new 256GB option, and improved color accuracy. You think this list is going to get people excited?

 

[actinide]

Because we can? But on a less snooty response, people like to have the latest and greatest. If they're able to have it, why not? Some people run businesses and their entire lives on their phones (I personally know 2 people who run their business from their phones 90% of the time) so why not make sure you have the most powerful device to be as efficient and able as possible.

Sure dialling numbers to make phone calls, create events in a calendar and stay in touch with your social life does indeed require a top notch high end phone.
If you want to make a statement, sure, but don't make a statement that sound that ridiculous.

 

[Rigby]

Why attaching some plastic thingy to the jack on the headphones and then connecting them to the lightning port is such a big deal.

Because some of us use our earphones on more than one device. For example, I use them regularly with my computer for audio/video conferencing and music, my iPhone, my company phone (which is an Android), and with the inflight-entertainment on airplanes, which means I'd have to constantly take the adapter on and off and hope not to forget or lose it somewhere. It's just a pain and for what? If we can believe this analyst, it's to "upgrade" the internal speaker which of course will still sound like crap like all phone speakers.

 

[calzon65]

The 3.5mm jack is a decades old piece of technology that is long past its sell-by date. It's inefficient for the production of audio compared to digital output methods and is holding the industry back from widely adopting high quality output methods, like lighting or usb-c, and from forcing innovators to finally come up with more efficient bluetooth technology. The headphone jack is lazy. Good riddance.

The 3.5mm jack is simply a conduit from the iPhone’s internal DAC/AMP into the headphones/earbuds. The “quality” of the sound you hear has to do with the internal DAC/AMP plus speakers, the 3.5mm connection is virtually irrelevant. If a lightning connected headphone/earbud has a lower quality DAC/AMP combination than the iPhone’s DAC/AMP, then the quality of the sound will be less than going through the current 3.5mm jack with a set of high quality headphones.

This subject has been discussed ad nauseam, here is just one post.

I think this 'case for lightning headphones' is weak, and fundamentally dishonest, because you're essentially making comparisons between DACs/amps, not headphones.

Spend enough money on an external DAC and guess what: it sounds better than the cheaper internal one Apple uses. This is not news people!

But buy integrated lightning headphones and you are lumbered with some proprietary headphones that work only with iOS devices.

Alternatively, buy a lightning DAC with a 3.5mm headphone jack and continue using high quality headphones of your choice. Like you could do already.

There is nothing in the case argued that can't be done NOW with current iOS devices and the lightning port, if you want to (as the examples prove!). The choice of buying a better DAC/amp for the iPhone is a good one to have, whether integrated into the headphones or not. But it isn't an argument for dropping the built-in headphone jack, which is what I find misleading about it.

Removing the option of using the built-in headphone jack would only be for Apple's benefit - not consumers, many of whom are not going to want to spend the increased cost on headphones with integrated DACs that they can only use on one manufacturer's devices - they will buy bargain-basement adapters that sound no better than the iPhone's DAC, only now they will have to carry an adapter or buy superfluous proprietary headphones they never wanted to.

By all means extol the benefits of having the option for external DACs and amps for audiophiles. But don't imply Apple is doing the world in general a favour if it removes the bog-standard 3.5mm headphone jack from its devices and forces what is now a great option into being literally the only way to use wired headphones with a new iPhone.

 

[johnnyturbouk]

When is this site officially renaming itself to Ming-Chi Kuo rumors?

I remember the time when he was lampooned on MR; as for the IP7, i think i will give it a miss, especially at the ballooning costs of the iPhone for lacklustre upgrades. This would be the first time that i have not upgraded at launch.
Waiting for OLED screens.

 

[satchmo]

It's not about making it thinner. Given the dimensions are pretty similar to the 6S.

I'm suggesting to make it thicker to achieve greater battery size, removal of camera bump, inclusion of headphone jack.

I don't mind progress and moving to Lightning (USB-C would be better), but still perplexed at Apple priority of thinness over function.

 

[Ries]

IPX7 is the key for many people. Granted, even the iPhone 6 was way faster the the latest Galaxy phones but the waterproof rating is huge. Ever notice that the samsung commercials have someone pouring water or champagne on the phone? That is all it is rated for... while IPX7 rating can handle being under water for 30 minutes and not just resistance to pouring water at a certain rate.

Samsung 7 series is IP68

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...ofing-claims-with-awesome-pool-dive-video.htm

The first number is dust proof, the second is water. It is rated better than the iPhone 7 rumour.

0 Not protected –
1 Dripping water Dripping water (vertically falling drops) shall have no harmfull effect.
2 Dripping water when tilted up to 15° Vertically dripping water shall have no harmful effect when the enclosure is tilted at an angle up to 15° from its normal position.
3 Spraying water Water falling as a spray at any angle up to 60° from the vertical shall have no harmful effect.
4 Splashing water Water splashing against the enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effect.
5 Water jets Water projected by a nozzle (6.3mm) against enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.
6 Powerful water jets Water projected in powerful jets (12.5mm nozzle) against the enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.
7 Immersion up to 1m Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).
8 Immersion beyond 1m The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.

 

[Sylvan]

"- No headphone jack, with Apple providing both Lightning EarPods and a Lightning to 3.5 mm jack adapter in the box."


yeah, just like rMB came with an adapter in box for using regular USB... Oh wait.

No way in hell Apple will give you one for free when it can sell you one for 30 dollars.

As there is no way for me to link my phone to my car and charging too (I do that often as I drive a lot and like to listen to audiobook during), I'm out this Gen, might give Android a try finally

How are you charging and listening to music at the same time currently? I use a lightning cable to plug into one of the USB ports on my car stereo. It charges while playing music. That functionality will still be there with the next revision.

 

[Tompkinson]

$1000? Sorry, that's the point where I have to step back and say 'I'm done'. (...) that's too ridiculous to spend on a phone.

Your standpoint is absolutely understandable, but don't forget that for some of us: the phone is our main tool of business , a complete office in my pocket.
Being on the road for 200 days of the year: 1000$ for this kind of device is fine.
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So it will be interesting to see if the adapter includes a lightning socket for charging (which will also make it more bulky on-the-go). Or there's the Lightning dock (more $ and not suitable for in-the-car).

I would expect there will be a big selection of adapters on the market soon, if the 3,5mm is removed.

 

[RodDavies]

Ok, so if this ....Better screen ...

Where is that mentioned?

 

[timborama]

And why do people need to upgrade their phone every year?

Because Apple cripples old models with lackluster iOS updates. My 6+ runs WAY slower now than it did when I bought it.

**** Apple. I'd rather take my chances with Note 7.

 

[Tompkinson]

make up its own rumors

a nice phrase

 

[dbrose]

How are you charging and listening to music at the same time currently? I use a lightning cable to plug into one of the USB ports on my car stereo. It charges while playing music. That functionality will still be there with the next revision.

My issue is I sleep with headphones in and charge at the same time. With no headphone jack I won't be able to do this unless there is an adapter with a pass through charge port as well.

 

[bbrks]

Despite all complains, it will be the best iPhone ever, right?

 

[QuarterSwede]

I believe that if the 3.5mm port is gone then Apple will either include BT with AptX or add a low power standard to AirPlay for wireless headphone use. That'll keep it lossless/no audible difference if using compression and not kill your battery.

As an audio engineer and audio snob even I generally use BT audio/lighting (CarPlay) most of the time. I haven't pulled out my nice headphones for personal audio listening in probably a year.
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My issue is I sleep with headphones in and charge at the same time. With no headphone jack I won't be able to do this unless there is an adapter with a pass through charge port as well.

You're in the vast minority though. Apple is thinking of how most people use audio (not just headphones) most of the time.

 

[Batman89]

So the piano black color may be limited to only the 256gb version

 

[BlueMoon63]

Samsung 7 series is IP68

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...ofing-claims-with-awesome-pool-dive-video.htm

The first number is dust proof, the second is water. It is rated better than the iPhone 7 rumour.

0 Not protected –
1 Dripping water Dripping water (vertically falling drops) shall have no harmfull effect.
2 Dripping water when tilted up to 15° Vertically dripping water shall have no harmful effect when the enclosure is tilted at an angle up to 15° from its normal position.
3 Spraying water Water falling as a spray at any angle up to 60° from the vertical shall have no harmful effect.
4 Splashing water Water splashing against the enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effect.
5 Water jets Water projected by a nozzle (6.3mm) against enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.
6 Powerful water jets Water projected in powerful jets (12.5mm nozzle) against the enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.
7 Immersion up to 1m Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).
8 Immersion beyond 1m The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.

Good point. I think the commercials were for the s6

My guess is that the more waterproof is a key selling point for many.

 

[BvizioN]

The 3.5mm jack is a universal standard across laptops, automobiles, desktops, music players, stereos, mobile phones, tablets, even in-seat audio jacks on most passenger airlines. Removing this standard is a complete slap in the face to millions of consumers who have spent a lot of money on high quality headphones, earbuds, speakers, etc. that all use the 3.5mm standard.

Great! So what do you expect? We keep the lovely 3.5mm for another million years because you know.... all these you have mentioned above have spend a lot of money? Based on that logic, the time will never ever be right because there will always be so many who spend money on things that use the current (sometime outdated) technology! There always have to be someone to break the ice and form the bridge! And companies like Apple are the ones who can do that.
I for one am so glad Apple is doing this. You can love wires and holes on devices as much as you want, I prefer my mobile device with as less as possible holes and wires.

 

[Tompkinson]

Because Apple cripples old models with lackluster iOS updates. My 6+ runs WAY slower now than it did when I bought it.

My 6 runs just as fast as the day i bought it, (always running most recent OS)
I cleaned and reinstalled after one year, and i clean the RAM once a week; can't guarantee that this actually helps maintain speed, (maybe a placebo effect), but the phone is in fine speed, and it gets used a lot.