iPhone 7 to Start at 32GB of Storage, Replacing 16GB Base Model

[GadgetBen]

All of these features that are talked about are all very nice, but for me it should be the basics that Apple should be improving.

I want the next iPhone to be water resistant and I want the next iPhone to be as strong as the Apple Watch. Apple, you have done it with the Watch, now please make the iPhone just as durable.

 

[Reason077]

Making 32GB the entry level is a very good move.

I wish they'd done that for the iPhone SE - 16GB is just a bit too tight where as 64GB is more than most people will ever need. 32GB is the sweet spot!

 

[OllyW]

I want the next iPhone to be water resistant and I want the next iPhone to be as strong as the Apple Watch. Apple, you have done it with the Watch, now please make the iPhone just as durable.

I'm afraid the laws of physics won't allow that to happen. A large glass screen with a really thin case is never going to be as strong as a tiny screen mounted in a much thicker case.

 

[iapplelove]

Sadly there is nothing 'new'... just the typical faster/slimmer/more memory 'expected' features. Still in the rumor mill for now, so there is hope.

There is no where else to go with smartphones. And battery technology needs to improve before it can be implemented.

Google,Samsung and Apple have hit an innovation wall imo.

 

[Jsameds]

32GB is the big innovation

You're the only one saying that. It's just a base storage option, not a feature. Get over it.

 

[anomie]

How about...

64GB
128GB
256GB

You mean how about rejecting the money from customers willing to pay extra?
You´d be the worst CEO ever...
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You're the only one saying that. It's just a base storage option, not a feature. Get over it.

It was sarcasm, get behind it...
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32GB is the big innovation (years late) while the headphone jack is removed (devolution). Apple is really going downhill.

Years late? Are you kidding? Can you imagine how many MILLIONS they made from people paying the extra 100$?? Other companies dream of this.
Analog headphone jack removal, this is what comes years late. But again it needs Apple to push this forward.

 

[JohnApples]

And then next year, people will complain about 64gb not being enough, and so on.

People just want more stuff for free. Understandable, but I don't see how this is any more valid than not upsizing your meal at MacDonalds and then complaining that you didn't get enough fries and drinks. Just choose the option which best suits your needs, pay and move on.

Free stuff? Not quite. We are paying upwards of $650 for the thing. If wanting Apple to follow the storage value trend on their devices instead of focusing on product margin makes *me* the greedy one, then so be it I guess.

I get what you're saying— people will obviously always want more for less. But if putting 32GB in the base is now the same (or even less) price as 16GB back when it was introduced as base, what's wrong with wanting that?

Comparing tech to fast food doesn't work very well, but the analogy would be better if McDonald's served premium food, or had high prices for their food, but they don't. If you want to use that though, a better analogy would be McDonalds charging $10 for a "small" meal, then charging $15 to upgrade to a medium or $20 to a large. The high upgrade fees wouldn't warrant the additional amount of food to most.

 

[Ethosik]

So what?

You don't speak for everyone. I'm on a 16gb Nexus 5 and I'm perfectly fine with it, but I have to admit that it is a limitation for MANY people.

So? The same can be said to you and most of the people here that say 16GB is not enough! You do not speak for everyone either you know.

 

[AVEGA]

In related news iOS 10 will need at least 13 gigs of available space to update your phone

 

[manu chao]

Too late. I'm already complaining. While 32 is enough for me, most people I know it isn't enough. It costs them almost nothing between 32 and 256 GB so there's no reason the base model shouldn't be 64GB.

I think Apple has no problem making the base 64 GB as long as you are happy with the entry price rising from $649 to $749. It is abundantly clear that the 16 GB base model is not there to save costs but to increase revenue. My guess would be that the majority of people upgrade to a higher storage model.

 

[robeddie]

You mean how about rejecting the money from customers willing to pay extra?
You´d be the worst CEO ever...
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It was sarcasm, get behind it...
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Years late? Are you kidding? Can you imagine how many MILLIONS they made from people paying the extra 100$?? Other companies dream of this.
Analog headphone jack removal, this is what comes years late. But again it needs Apple to push this forward.

That may have made them money, but at what cost in the long run?
Who knows the number of people annoyed or turned off by Apple's greediness. The consequences may not be evident at the moment, but the ill-will Apple engenders but pulling that crap may eventually bite them in the ass.

 

[manu chao]

In related news iOS 10 will need at least 13 gigs of available space to update your phone

In related news, Apple announced at WWDC 2016 that the free space requirements to install iOS 10 is about 1.5 GB. In comparison, the free space needed to install iOS 8 was about 4.6 GB. For iOS 9 that was reduced to about 1.3 GB; iOS 10 only slightly increased that number.
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Honestly, I'd wager that most 'average' users phones no longer back up to iCloud because they fill them with text chat archives and photos. The "you do not have enough iCloud storage, this iPhone has not been backed up in 6 months" is simply a lock screen inconvenience to these novice users who will still blame Apple when they have a device failure and lose all their media and communications.

Indeed, Apple should increase the free storage tier to 50 GB, ie, the amount that currently costs $12/year. The average price of an iPhone is about $700, if a user upgrades every two years that would amount to a 3.4 percentage points reduction in gross margin if every user currently payed for the this storage tier. If only a third of them currently pays for that, it would be a gross margin reduction of only 1.1 percentage points.

 

[rexboe]

I bet they raise the price a 100 like the iPad

 

[sracer]

Give it a year before you're all complaining about 32 GB.

If there is a price increase for the entry level 32GB then you won't have to wait a year for the complaining, it will be immediate. Because all of the whining and crying over the 16GB entry level had nothing to do with the 16GBittedness of the device but because people didn't want to pay extra to get the capacity they wanted.

 

[Jambalaya]

What airline are you flying that doesn't have power ports?

Most airlines don't have power / usb in economy or premium economy.

 

[kyleh22]

Because it's meant to be a "free trial"?

Doesn't Google's and Microsoft's "free trials" start at 50gb?

 

[AVEGA]

In related news, Apple announced at WWDC 2016 that the free space requirements to install iOS 10 is about 1.5 GB. In comparison, the free space needed to install iOS 8 was about 4.6 GB. For iOS 9 that was reduced to about 1.3 GB; iOS 10 only slightly increased that number.
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Indeed, Apple should increase the free storage tier to 50 GB, ie, the amount that currently costs $12/year. The average price of an iPhone is about $700, if a user upgrades every two years that would amount to a 3.4 percentage points reduction in gross margin if every user currently payed for the this storage tier. If only a third of them currently pays for that, it would be a gross margin reduction of only 1.1 percentage points.

It was a joke. THat's why I had the face.

 

[0007776]

As long as they don't use it as an excuse to increase the price this will be fine.

 

[kyleh22]

What gives you the idea that you shouldn't have to pay for iCloud storage? 5 GB is enough for most people, considering there are many things that don't count toward that 5 GB.

Why should your needs be the default? I pay for the 1TB of storage. Should my needs be default?
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Would be a huge waste of money. Overwhelming majority of users don't need 16 GB, let alone 32, let alone 64.

Why would Apple give up all that revenue?

The industry default is around 50gb of free storage. As Apple relies more and more on icloud as a basic function of the phone I think it's important that they increase the starting free tier. Even if they have to increase the cost of the phone to accommodate this. Friends and family of mine are see charging $1 for 50gb as nickle and diming.

 

[marty1980]

If u have 32gig, wll that mean less users will use the cloud because u have more storage locally... ?

Not necessarily... A lot of people who were on 16GB models and/or already purchased iCloud will continue to subscribe. Newcomers are the challenge for them at 32GB. But since Apple held off so long on 16GB, how long can 32GB stick at the low end? My guess... As long as they can hold out; same as they have with 16GB.

Ever hear of iCloud? Doesnt matter how much local storage you have.

Do you think your 4K video is streamed to a save file in iCloud? You do realize that you have to save files locally before they can go to iCloud, right?

So if you don't have enough local storage to create the file, then iCloud isn't going to do any good.

Apps don't live in the cloud. Save data for apps may be copied to the cloud but remains local.

If you're using cloud, your also likely having to pay for additional cellular data along with your iCloud subscription for more than 5GB....

There's all this additional cost associated with cloud. Local storage is still very relevant and important; no matter how much Apple's marketing wants people to believ otherwise.

 

[Zirel]

Doesn't Google's and Microsoft's "free trials" start at 50gb?

No, they don't.
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Doesn't Google's and Microsoft's "free trials" start at 50gb?

No, they don't.

 

[JohnApples]

I think Apple has no problem making the base 64 GB as long as you are happy with the entry price rising from $649 to $749. It is abundantly clear that the 16 GB base model is not there to save costs but to increase revenue. My guess would be that the majority of people upgrade to a higher storage model.

Apple won't raise the base price $100. $50 maybe, but not 100. For $749 right now, you can get a 6S with 64GB. When the 7 comes out, how will they explain paying $749 for half the storage? Especially if the 7 supposedly is a minor, identical-looking upgrade?

 

[sparky08]

Woo hoo! 2007, here we come!

 

[Three141]

It should not have taken this long; I'm not sure how long it will be until 32gb is a joke but right now I can't give Apple any props for this.

 

[SarahKirschbaum]

I'll happily give Apple an extra $100 if they put a darn MicroSDXC card slot in the iPhone. I can't be the only one who's been dreaming about this, right?

Before iPhone 6 Plus came out, people never believed BIG iPhones would even be a possibility.... now very few people are buying the tiny 4-inch iPhones.