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Touch ID is necessary on set up, but users don't need to choose haptic feedback on set up. Three or more set up options is crazy, it's not simple, it's not pure in good design either. It's just an example of an operating system being needy and unconfident in its presentation to users.
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Exactly. There is the necessary stuff, and then there is the unnecessary stuff.
But the feel of the home button is important to most people IMO. I think home button, Touch ID and Apple Pay should be part of the set up process with the option to set up later. Maybe some of the other options could be presented as a list with checkboxes rather than each having their own screen during the setup process.
 
I feel for Apple's engineers. Adding a simple "Configure Later" button would break them.

Unfortunately, this would be a very bad idea. Not everyone knows what they are doing when they fire up an iPhone for the first time and there would probably be millions of people that passed this step (perhaps by mistake even) and then stuck with something they think is broken. This would lead to more support calls, more bickering, more support time needed when it could be spent on real issues.

It doesn't take that long, put up with it and enjoy your new phone.
 
In that case, why not list every setting option and get a response from the user for each one.

Apple's job is to make simple software and hardware. When it starts asking users lots of questions, then it misses the mark entirely. Touch ID being one question that is necessary.

Not necessary for every possibility. However, some features, especially one engaged potentially several hundred times a day and is new, is reasonable to have choice. Apple provides it.

Most people outside of those on tech forums may not know that particular option exists because all previous home button's were simply buttons, and could go for months or years not knowing there's a choice.

ESPECIALLY because after nine years, this is the first taptic Home button, and that it can be customized. Ordinary people (those who are not into tech) should be alerted to that with being able to make a choice during setup.

Nice that Apple took the time letting people know that something that is brand new and engaged so often during the day can be personalized. Takes a couple seconds. Life goes on.
 
Unfortunately, this would be a very bad idea. Not everyone knows what they are doing when they fire up an iPhone for the first time and there would probably be millions of people that passed this step (perhaps by mistake even) and then stuck with something they think is broken. This would lead to more support calls, more bickering, more support time needed when it could be spent on real issues.

It doesn't take that long, put up with it and enjoy your new phone.

Yup.

Also, from my experience, people actually likes the ritual of the iPhone initial setup.
Only geeks get annoyed, for the rest of humanity is like breaking ice with the shiny new device.
 
Is this really the first source to report this? It's in no other review??
 
Really? You get a super-computer and you can't be bothered to set it up.

No, I simply want the option of *when* I set it up. IIRC, you can simply press Command-Q on the Mac setup screen and go straight to the desktop.

At the very least, the UI needs to be rethought. The one-setting-per-screen was fine years ago, but now there's so many that it's just tedious.
 
Not necessary for every possibility. However, some features, especially one engaged potentially several hundred times a day and is new, is reasonable to have choice. Apple provides it.

Most people outside of those on tech forums may not know that particular option exists because all previous home button's were simply buttons, and could go for months or years not knowing there's a choice.

ESPECIALLY because after nine years, this is the first taptic Home button, and that it can be customized. Ordinary people (those who are not into tech) should be alerted to that with being able to make a choice during setup.

Nice that Apple took the time letting people know that something that is brand new and engaged so often during the day can be personalized. Takes a couple seconds. Life goes on.
Why on earth do users even need to customize a taptic Home button? It should just work great without user intervention right out the box, should it not?
 
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But the feel of the home button is important to most people IMO. I think home button, Touch ID and Apple Pay should be part of the set up process with the option to set up later. Maybe some of the other options could be presented as a list with checkboxes rather than each having their own screen during the setup process.
The feel should be right just out of the box. There should be zero thought process for the user on the home button.
 
So now we aren't complaining about the setup, we are complaining there is too many button presses to skip said setup? Wow.

Half the time I can't tell who is a troll and who is just being difficult for difficulties sake.

So now we aren't allowed to criticize Apple's UI design, even though I would like to think we hold it to a higher standard? Wow.

Half the time I can't tell who is a fanboy and who is just being difficult for the sake of it.
 
Maybe the default click isn't my favorite. Who knows, but why complain?

Because the previous iteration was more pleasing

I am in the camp that is pro "haptic home button", but not if it wasn't implemented well enough.

I will hold my comments for now until I try it in person, but I could tell right away this wasn't going to be the same experience as the home button, because the engine simply isn't big enough.

Apple did it very well with the Mac force pad - but unfortunately I don't think they did as well with the iPhone; and we are already starting to hear it in the comments.
 
Why on earth do users even need to customize a taptic Home button? It should just work great without user intervention right out the box, should it not?

Apple lets people choose one of three strengths. It's because people are different, some prefer light, some heavy, some in-between.

Without bringing that up during setup, most people, after nine years of using a conventional button would not know there's a choice.

Simple as that. Takes two seconds. Life goes on. No one is hurt.
 
Apple lets people choose one of three strengths. It's because people are different, some prefer light, some heavy, some in-between.

Without bringing that up during setup, most people, after nine years of using a conventional button would not know there's a choice.

Simple as that. Takes two seconds. Life goes on. No one is hurt.
There's a real simple answer to this: set the factory default as heavy. All users can feel it. If users don't like it, they'll change it in settings.

It doesn't need to be question in a long set up survey.
 
There are too many set up screens in the current iOS. It used to be so simple, straightforward and fast to set up.

Apple needs to make a stand on what features its products offer as default. Simple features should be set up from the get go. If users don't like them, then they change them in settings.

Apple's job is to make simple software and hardware. When it starts asking users lots of questions, then it misses the mark entirely. In some cases, new users don't even understand the questions or the context.

Whatever happened to it "just works"? Today it works, but only after a big unnecessary quiz.
Good GAWD. People just complain about anything.
 
It's so annoying to me how entitled and spoiled some Apple users are. They want more and more features but yet don't want to set any of them up, they want everything to just magically know your preferences and how you want your phone to operate. Seriously, come on.
Apple should just tell you how to like it and be happy with it.
 
I hope this taptic engine is a lot better or more durable than the iPhone 6s. Either I've gotten used to it, or it has gotten a lot softer over the past year. Same thing with my Apple Watch. The problem with the iPhone 7 is that the taptic engine will be used constantly for the home button, so it better work well over time. Honestly, they're just trading one physical thing that could wear out for another. And what annoys me is that most of the reviews don't have anything good to say about it—the best being that it's ok—and many mention that it falls far short of the MacBook trackpad click. I kind of wish they had waited until they had it at the MacBook level of quality before shipping, but I'll reserve final judgement until I try it myself.
 
There's a real simple answer to this: set the factory default as heavy. All users can feel it. If users don't like it, they'll change it in settings.

It doesn't need to be question in a long set up survey.

It's not a long set up survey.

With people naturally assuming the home button is like the home button in iPhones from the previous eight years, as well as buttons in other manufacturers' phones, how would they know it could be changed?
 
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There are too many set up screens in the current iOS. It used to be so simple, straightforward and fast to set up.

Apple needs to make a stand on what features its products offer as default. Simple features should be set up from the get go. If users don't like them, then they change them in settings.

Apple's job is to make simple software and hardware. When it starts asking users lots of questions, then it misses the mark entirely. In some cases, new users don't even understand the questions or the context.

Whatever happened to it "just works"? Today it works, but only after a big unnecessary quiz.

Good grief. This new question is most likely because it's a new feature and Apple needs to "train" the user base about it. The other questions are great because they relate to privacy and security. Things that should not be put off till later.
 
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