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It's so annoying to me how entitled and spoiled some Apple users are. They want more and more features but yet don't want to set any of them up, they want everything to just magically know your preferences and how you want your phone to operate. Seriously, come on.

Nice to see there's still some sanity in these decaying forums.
 
It's so annoying to me how entitled and spoiled some Apple users are. They want more and more features but yet don't want to set any of them up, they want everything to just magically know your preferences and how you want your phone to operate. Seriously, come on.

Well, he is complaining because of a change. It didn't use to be this way. And don't assume the people crying for features are the same that are complaining about something else. TO ME the iPhone has had all the features it will ever need with the iPhone 6. I have no use for apple pay, force touch, siri, better cameras. I set these things up constantly for our users and a SKIP EVERYTHING button would be great for me.
 
I don't know if this has been brought up before, but either A10 or iOS is hiding the other cores from apps. Not sure if Apple would eventually open all 4 cores for concurrent use....
 
Guys, I just got my Jet Black 7 Plus and there is yet another secret setup screen. It's accessed during the home button setup screen by pressing the home button with two short clicks followed by one long, one short, and two long. It asks: "do you plan to use lightning earbuds while charging?" If you answer yes it connects to the Apple Store and loads the hidden page for a pass through charging adapter, only $29.99! Jet Black color is already sold out.
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I don't know if this has been brought up before, but either A10 or iOS is hiding the other cores from apps. Not sure if Apple would eventually open all 4 cores for concurrent use....

Since they're for a low power mode maybe they aren't designed to be used concurrently with the two high power cores?
 
No, choice is sometimes unnecessary when it just works properly and is designed with everyone in mind.

Who are you, or anybody else for that matter, to decide what choices I want or need?

And there is absolutely no such thing as "designed with everyone in mind." That's an impossible goal. The best any company can hope or try for is to appease the masses.

Earlier, you made a comment that the setup for Touch ID was required. I would argue that for some (like my 70+ year old parents) it isn't, because they've never, nor will they ever, use it. And I realize that there's a "skip" option for that, but based on your logic, why even give the option to set it up initially? Why not just have all users go to settings afterwards and set it up then?
 
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No, because I won't feel like a bad person throwing it out.

I have never used the earpods case and I don't think I've ever seen another person use it. People just coil them up and put them in their pocket or bag. It's kind of an elaborate waste of plastic.
I found it a pain getting the EarPods to fit back into the plastic case. If you don't wind it just so, they don't line up at the end with the little notches for the plug and the earpieces.

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Well, he is complaining because of a change. It didn't use to be this way. And don't assume the people crying for features are the same that are complaining about something else. TO ME the iPhone has had all the features it will ever need with the iPhone 6. I have no use for apple pay, force touch, siri, better cameras. I set these things up constantly for our users and a SKIP EVERYTHING button would be great for me.
Surely in that case you don't get a new iPhone then?

One of the reasons people pick Apple is because they are simple to use. In order to keep it simple to use it's best to have a setting up process once when you first get the iPhone than having to do everything individually as and when you learn of the features, assuming you.
 
How about you suggest they buy a nicely and fully translated Android phone in Latvian, instead of complaining that Apple doesn't offer it. Wonder if they offer Archi, Yupuk and Pawnee etc..

A lot of class action suit possibilities.

Or, plan B learn English, while only spoken in a just few countries around the world, it does come in handy at times.

BTW: It is an age independent opportunity to expand ones horizon.

Hey, horizon expander, how many languages do YOU know? I know 4 and English wasn’t even my first foreign language. Spare me your lectures please.

My parents are old enough not to learn new languages and are a bit rusty on the ones they learned in youth. They know basic English to use their iPhones (and iPads) just fine, but are confused with all the prompts iOS has grown to have. It used to be way more simple.

My parents use Apple devices and services, because I’m a tech geek, I upgrade yearly and they get my previous (still very good) devices. And since I’m honestly on the brink of completely ditching Apple (primarily because how Mac is treated, october is last deadline), no worries, they will then get those nice Latvian Android devices soon enough.

And are you really comparing some truly obscure languages of few hundred speakers, to historic (mid-16th century) European language, one of the official EU languages, language of an entire country, language of 2+ million speakers? Why do Google, Microsoft and others care to translate products for us, but not the mighty Apple? Because Apple are pathetic beancounters is my best guess.
 
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Hey, horizon expander, how many languages do YOU know? I know 4 and English wasn’t even my first foreign language. Spare me your lectures please.

My parents are old enough not to learn new languages and are a bit rusty on the ones they learned in youth. They know basic English to use their iPhones (and iPads) just fine, but are confused with all the prompts iOS has grown to have. It used to be way more simple.

My parents use Apple devices and services, because I’m a tech geek, I upgrade yearly and they get my previous (still very good) devices. And since I’m honestly on the brink of completely ditching Apple (primarily because how Mac is treated, october is last deadline), no worries, they will then get those nice Latvian Android devices soon enough.

And are you really comparing some truly obscure languages of few hundred speakers, to historic (mid-16th century) European language, one of the official EU languages, language of an entire country, language of 2+ million speakers? Why do Google, Microsoft and others care to translate products for us, but not the mighty Apple? Because Apple are pathetic beancounters is my best guess.


Not trying to be argumentative, but have you asked Apple about Latvian support? If so, what was their response?

While it may not be one of the most-used languages in the world, I am surprised that they haven't already supported it, and would be interested to hear their reasoning.
 
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If it's actually 8K it would have the be the RED Weapon, that's their only camera that shoots 8K. It does use the Dragon sensor but a RED Dragon shoots 6K.

However I will say, I would be very surprised if that's what he's using. Seems a little unusual to use a cinema camera that costs $20 000 (as an upgrade, that's not a fully new body) for YouTube unboxing videos.

Agh yes thank you for correcting me, I think he mentioned in a video a few months back he had the RED Weapon and used to use the RED Dragon. I just know he is using either one of those RED Cameras with an abundance of add-ons with his camera.
 
Surely in that case you don't get a new iPhone then?

One of the reasons people pick Apple is because they are simple to use. In order to keep it simple to use it's best to have a setting up process once when you first get the iPhone than having to do everything individually as and when you learn of the features, assuming you.

I upgraded to a SE from a 6s last week once I saw what the 7 was offering. And I acknowledge that, I just wish there was a skip everything button.
 
There are too many set up screens in the current iOS. It used to be so simple, straightforward and fast to set up.

Apple needs to make a stand on what features its products offer as default. Simple features should be set up from the get go. If users don't like them, then they change them in settings.

Apple's job is to make simple software and hardware. When it starts asking users lots of questions, then it misses the mark entirely. In some cases, new users don't even understand the questions or the context.

Whatever happened to it "just works"? Today it works, but only after a big unnecessary quiz.


I agree. I'm still getting prompted to set up Apple Pay. Shouldn't they know I live in a country were it is not available? So why the prompt?
 
I think setting the Home button sensitivity in setup is a good idea. You get to choose a comfortable level, an introduction to the different feel, and a mental note that you can change this later in Settings. Otherwise the option might have been buried.
All in about ten seconds.
 
Not trying to be argumentative, but have you asked Apple about Latvian support? If so, what was their response?

While it may not be one of the most-used languages in the world, I am surprised that they haven't already supported it, and would be interested to hear their reasoning.

It's not only Latvian - there are many even way bigger languages that have spotty support from Apple (like no UI translation and/or no spell check and/or no predictive input and/or no dictation and/or no Siri etc.). Many, including Latvian, have only very basic keyboard support (meaning we can get our specific letter accents if we hold the key). You can see the full list here: http://www.apple.com/ios/feature-availability/

PS - If I remember correctly, I actually submitted something about this around the time I purchased my first Mac (2007) and iPhone (2008). Can't hurt to try again, thanks for suggestion.
 
I wish I didn't have a jaded opinion about the entire unboxing video genre. I am looking forward to watching some reviews on the phones, but I am actually waiting for some low key bloggers to do their versions.

Unboxing has its uses. Some people like to clearly see what's in the box and how things look, especially between two similar products. I'm not one of them though.
 
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It's not only Latvian - there are many even way bigger languages that have spotty support from Apple (like no UI translation and/or no spell check and/or no predictive input and/or no dictation and/or no Siri etc.). Many, including Latvian, have only very basic keyboard support (meaning we can get our specific letter accents if we hold the key). You can see the full list here: http://www.apple.com/ios/feature-availability/

PS - If I remember correctly, I actually submitted something about this around the time I purchased my first Mac (2007) and iPhone (2008). Can't hurt to try again, thanks for suggestion.


I'll be the first to admit that I'm mono-lingual, but I find that very surprising. For all the things Apple does well, language support doesn't seem to be one of them.

Hopefully they pay attention to your request this time.
 
still on the edge wich one to chose. so annoying how everyone recommends the matte black..

I actually like that people are recommending the matte because that's what i'm picking up at my local Apple store at 8 tomorrow morning :)...I had a jet black reserved for tomorrow pick-up and I changed it at the last second because I cant deal with the type of scratching they are prone to. But i do think it looks so awesome. So every time I see the jet black I say "Man...I should have stuck with it..It looks so damn nice"...But then I see or read things about the scratching and fingerprints and it makes feel like I did the right thing and switched to the matte. But whatever...This is just a nice little appetizer to just about hold me over until next Sept. and the iPhone X.
 
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Not trying to be argumentative, but have you asked Apple about Latvian support? If so, what was their response?

While it may not be one of the most-used languages in the world, I am surprised that they haven't already supported it, and would be interested to hear their reasoning.

Finally just wanted to add - sorry for being a bit rude about all this, but it truly is a big deal. ESPECIALLY for those smaller languages - good technological support could even be a deciding factor if the language can survive at all in our modern globalised world.
This is precisely the sort of “right thing” Tim so loves to talk about. Like supporting people with disabilities, language support should also be treated not from the perspective of cold profit.
 
Unboxing has its uses. Some people like to clearly see what's in the box and how things look, especially between two similar products. I'm not one of them though.

Same here. I prefer a certain element of surprise when buying new tech.

Watching someone unbox it ahead of time takes away part of the fun. :)
 
Hey, horizon expander, how many languages do YOU know? I know 4 and English wasn’t even my first foreign language. Spare me your lectures please.

My parents are old enough not to learn new languages and are a bit rusty on the ones they learned in youth. They know basic English to use their iPhones (and iPads) just fine, but are confused with all the prompts iOS has grown to have. It used to be way more simple.

My parents use Apple devices and services, because I’m a tech geek, I upgrade yearly and they get my previous (still very good) devices. And since I’m honestly on the brink of completely ditching Apple (primarily because how Mac is treated, october is last deadline), no worries, they will then get those nice Latvian Android devices soon enough.

And are you really comparing some truly obscure languages of few hundred speakers, to historic (mid-16th century) European language, one of the official EU languages, language of an entire country, language of 2+ million speakers? Why do Google, Microsoft and others care to translate products for us, but not the mighty Apple? Because Apple are pathetic beancounters is my best guess.

Being from Europe and not American , I also know 4 languages 3 dialects and can understand a few languages I do not know extensively, if spoken slowly.

No lectures, just being sarcastic, especially by citing the languages I did.


As for parents not being that tech savvy I regularly upgrade or "fix" all the things my father in Germany messes up on his iMac via team viewer.
Whatever cannot be hooked up or I cannot access (Apple TV, he shows me on the TV SCREEN with the camera on his MBP and I talk him through it.
As a tech geek you can do the same with cheap international Magicjack minutes, not really that expensive.

Yes, iOS lately has a lot of features and customization options. (Too many agreed again, but everybody uses their phones in a different way and the jailbreaking community is proof of that.

If Apple doesn't offer what you need or want time to leave!
 
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Who are you, or anybody else for that matter, to decide what choices I want or need?

And there is absolutely no such thing as "designed with everyone in mind." That's an impossible goal. The best any company can hope or try for is to appease the masses.

Earlier, you made a comment that the setup for Touch ID was required. I would argue that for some (like my 70+ year old parents) it isn't, because they've never, nor will they ever, use it. And I realize that there's a "skip" option for that, but based on your logic, why even give the option to set it up initially? Why not just have all users go to settings afterwards and set it up then?
Touch ID, where there are millions of different fingerprints to code, and also relates to device security, is more useful and important a question than setting the parameters of the home button that should have been set at the factory. Do the light switches in our houses need their own settings so that we can adjust their feedback and feel? It's ridiculous stuff here regarding the home button.
I'm just advocating a simpler approach, where as you are advocating a complex approach, with more screens.
 
It's not only Latvian - there are many even way bigger languages that have spotty support from Apple (like no UI translation and/or no spell check and/or no predictive input and/or no dictation and/or no Siri etc.). Many, including Latvian, have only very basic keyboard support (meaning we can get our specific letter accents if we hold the key). You can see the full list here: http://www.apple.com/ios/feature-availability/

PS - If I remember correctly, I actually submitted something about this around the time I purchased my first Mac (2007) and iPhone (2008). Can't hurt to try again, thanks for suggestion.
Hungarian fits the bill. We did get dictation within the last year-ish. No siri though. :(
 
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