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You don't say, really? I know that, but anything more than three questions is a big problem. Choosing the type of haptic feedback on setup is unnecessary. Users can change this in settings. Why on earth do users need to choose their haptic feedback, is there not a default that suits most users?

If touching one extra button is a "big problem" you have re-evaluate what problems are.
 
There are too many set up screens in the current iOS. It used to be so simple, straightforward and fast to set up.

Apple needs to make a stand on what features its products offer as default. Simple features should be set up from the get go. If users don't like them, then they change them in settings.

Apple's job is to make simple software and hardware. When it starts asking users lots of questions, then it misses the mark entirely. In some cases, new users don't even understand the questions or the context.

Whatever happened to it "just works"? Today it works, but only after a big unnecessary quiz.

Why are you mad about a screen you'll have to GO BACK AND DO anyhow? lol. It's making your user experience seamless off the bat so you don't go "arggh I don't like the way this button feedback clicks!" and searching the internet how to find it in settings.
 
And it's not a long set up survey.

With people naturally assuming the home button is like the home button in iPhones from the previous eight years, as well as buttons in other manufacturers' phones, how would they know it could be changed?
It is long. Three steps is the aim. More than that is a waste of everyones time.
Who cares what the home is exactly. It has only a few duties and the response it gives should be as expected, not a game of does the button feel right, how about that now, try this one instead. Which one? Users should not need to even think about the home button like this. It should just work, and work appropriately without adjustments.
 
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So now we aren't allowed to criticize Apple's UI design, even though I would like to think we hold it to a higher standard? Wow.

Half the time I can't tell who is a fanboy and who is just being difficult for the sake of it.
You are criticizing iOS for daring to have a setup screen for a BRAND new feature, and not allowing you to skip. The wasted seconds, that are needed to tap "later" a few times, is worth all this? I'm not a fanboy. I criticize when warranted. Having to setup a new feature, or having to tap a later link a few times, doesn't seem worth all this angst.
 
Good grief. This new question is most likely because it's a new feature and Apple needs to "train" the user base about it. The other questions are great because they relate to privacy and security. Things that should not be put off till later.
Users don't need to be trained if the design is good from the outset.
 
After reading about the 'scratchability' of the Jet Black, I changed my mind and went with matte. Even Apple notes that scratches 'may' happen on the Jet Black.

"The high-gloss finish of the jet black iPhone 7 is achieved through a precision nine-step anodization and polishing process. Its surface is equally as hard as other anodized Apple products; however, its high shine may show fine micro-abrasions with use. If you are concerned about this, we suggest you use one of the many cases available to protect your iPhone."

I was on the fence until I read the above disclosure. That's them getting out in front early with a disclaimer...aka in this case a warning.

Also...speaking of cases....I have yet to see one that eliminates dust, pocket lint, etc from getting inside. On the Jet Black I think particles getting in the case and rubbing will be just as bad as the chance of scuffing without a case. In other words it's quite a pretty phone and hard to pass on, but it's damned if you do damned if you don't with that finish.
 
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Anyone else slightly disappointed by the EarPods being in a cardboard frame instead of the nice case they came with in the 6-series phones?

No, because I won't feel like a bad person throwing it out.

I have never used the earpods case and I don't think I've ever seen another person use it. People just coil them up and put them in their pocket or bag. It's kind of an elaborate waste of plastic.
 
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Why are you mad about a screen you'll have to GO BACK AND DO anyhow? lol. It's making your user experience seamless off the bat so you don't go "arggh I don't like the way this button feedback clicks!" and searching the internet how to find it in settings.
After setting it tup, a lot of users will go into the settings and continue to play around with the feeling of the button. That's why it just should never be an option in the set up screens. Users need never think about the home button if it is implemented properly.
 
You are criticizing iOS for daring to have a setup screen for a BRAND new feature, and not allowing you to skip. The wasted seconds, that are needed to tap "later" a few times, is worth all this? I'm not a fanboy. I criticize when warranted. Having to setup a new feature, or having to tap a later link a few times, doesn't seem worth all this angst.

I'm not criticizing the screen's existence, I'm criticizing we can't skip the setup altogether, like you can on the Mac, and the design of the setup UI overall. It has stayed the same and did not scale well. Again, we should hold Apple to a higher standard. Do I think it's a huge deal? No. There are a zillion other things on iOS that are worse. But it does warrant critique, in my opinion.
 
It is long. Three steps is the aim. More than that is a waste of everyones time.
Who cares what the home is exactly. It has only a few duties and the response it gives should be as expected, not a game of does the button feel right, how about that now, try this one instead. Which one? Users should not need to even think about the home button like this. It should just work, and work appropriately without adjustments.


Well, since many people "press" the home button a few hundred times a day, and this a brand new feature, it is important. It's not a game. It's personalizing your phone.

You don't need a choice. That's fine. Many will appreciate it.
 
Though I got up and did the 3am preorder, neither of our phones will be here tomorrow. I got the 7plus 256gb black and my wife's is a 7plus 256gb rose gold. Our shipping dates are both late September even though one is through Apple.com and the other through ATT.

After seeing that glossy one, I'm definitely glad I got the matte (even though it'll be hidden in a case).
 
If touching one extra button is a "big problem" you have re-evaluate what problems are.
Apple make simple products, not products that ask lots of questions just to get them to work.

A lot of the questions asked in the set up screens really should be answered by Apple. Users are still free to make changes later, but some of the screens have really simple answers. The home button set up is one of those questions with a simple answer.
 
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There are too many set up screens in the current iOS. It used to be so simple, straightforward and fast to set up.

Apple needs to make a stand on what features its products offer as default. Simple features should be set up from the get go. If users don't like them, then they change them in settings.

Apple's job is to make simple software and hardware. When it starts asking users lots of questions, then it misses the mark entirely. In some cases, new users don't even understand the questions or the context.

Whatever happened to it "just works"? Today it works, but only after a big unnecessary quiz.

Absolutely! This is especially confusing for people like my parents, who don't understand English too well (they can't use their native language, because Apple, the richest tech company on Earth, STILL has not translated the UI in Latvian (and many other smaller EU languages)). Meanwhile you can buy any Android phone nicely and fully translated in Latvian. Pathetic beancounters. :mad:
 
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Absolutely! This is especially confusing for people like my parents, who don't understand English too well (they can't use their native language, because Apple, the richest tech company on Earth, STILL has not translated the UI in Latvian (and many other smaller EU languages)). Meanwhile you can buy any Android phone nicely and fully translated in Latvian. Pathetic beancounters. :mad:
I agree that it is confusing for some customers. The context of the set up questions isn't entirely clear either.
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Well, since many people "press" the home button a few hundred times a day, and this a brand new feature, it is important. It's not a game. It's personalizing your phone.

You don't need a choice. That's fine. Many will appreciate it.
All it needs to do is just work, it actually requires zero personalization. No one needs this superfluous choice.
 
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Great, yet another setup screen. They need to add a "I'll deal with this crap later, thanks" button.

Maybe, just maybe, they put that step in there because not all of the millions of buyers will be avid iPhone site visitors and maybe, just maybe Apple want to prepare them in a different UX?
 
I agree that it is confusing for some customers. The context of the set up questions isn't entirely clear either.
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All it needs to do is just work. No one needs this superfluous choice.

You seem to be speaking for everyone. It's hardly superfluous since there's a range of feedback where one setting won't be right for all. It's a new feature with many assuming its just a button like buttons of the past, and not know it can be changed.

Choice is good. It's simple. And will be appreciated.

For those that will be super annoyed with having that choice and taking the two seconds to make it, the 14 day return period will let them vote on the matter.
 
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Absolutely! This is especially confusing for people like my parents, who don't understand English too well (they can't use their native language, because Apple, the richest tech company on Earth, STILL has not translated the UI in Latvian (and many other smaller EU languages)). Meanwhile you can buy any Android phone nicely and fully translated in Latvian. Pathetic beancounters. :mad:

How about you suggest they buy a nicely and fully translated Android phone in Latvian, instead of complaining that Apple doesn't offer it. Wonder if they offer Archi, Yupuk and Pawnee etc..

A lot of class action suit possibilities.

Or, plan B learn English, while only spoken in a just few countries around the world, it does come in handy at times.

BTW: It is an age independent opportunity to expand ones horizon.
 
I'm not criticizing the screen's existence, I'm criticizing we can't skip the setup altogether, like you can on the Mac, and the design of the setup UI overall. It has stayed the same and did not scale well. Again, we should hold Apple to a higher standard. Do I think it's a huge deal? No. There are a zillion other things on iOS that are worse. But it does warrant critique, in my opinion.
Apple has always treated iOS as a separate entity. That said, no reason to continue derailing the thread.You have the right to your opinions and to express them.
 
You seem to be speaking for everyone. It's hardly superfluous since there's a range of feedback where one setting won't be right for all. Since it's a new feature with many assuming its just a button like buttons of the past, and not know it can be changed.

Choice is good. It's simple. And will be appreciated.

For those that will be super annoyed with having that choice and taking the two seconds to make it, the 14 day return period will let them vote on the matter.
No, choice is sometimes unnecessary when it just works properly and is designed with everyone in mind.
 
If going with no case do you use anything? A skin etc? If so which do you recommend please.

Also if you don't have skin or a case surely it must be scratched after a year of use? or are you not bothered either way?

Thanks
I decided to go caseless around the iphone 5s. I just lived my life and made a decision not to care about the scratches. Ive never had any scratches on the screen but the corners will get beat up pretty good with drops and such. I didnt crack a screen till my one year old got a hold of it. Now we let her handle our phones and just live with it.
 
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