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Waterproof will most likely happen considering the 6S is almost waterproof.

Just please, no protruding camera, no phone so thin that it bends instantly, no lack of headphone jack, and no ugly antenna bands.

^ This. I'm amazed a company renowned for design has released phones with such low design standards!
 
I'm holding on to my iPhone 6 until the 7 is released. I really hope that the rumor about the headphone jack doesn't pan out, as most of my headphones will be rendered useless. In fact, it may even be a dealbreaker. I have a pair of good Bluetooth earbuds, but I'd rather not have to worry about constantly being near a charger.
 
Please don't get rid of the STANDARD headphone jack. I really do NOT to buy proprietary Apple Beats headphones or proprietary Apple Beats adapters. I like my headphones. They work with EVERYTHING!!!
 
Presumably it's necessary to remove the 3.5 socket in the search for waterproofness.. and that's also assuming the Lightning port itself can be made waterproof..

But it is going to be a real provocative move by Apple to render all 3.5 headphones suddenly useless.. (Without the Apple lightning to 3.5 adapter at $79..!)

No reason why an electrical socket can't be made waterproof and still allow conductivity (just need to make it capable of being a tight enough fit that the water bridging conductors is negligible, or take advantage of low-wattage over long distances like with waterproof headphone jacks). I don't think the 3.5mm headphone jack is actually a problem there, though. It can be tightly sealed from intrusion, and given the current and distance between contacts short-circuiting due to water is minimal. See http://www.amazon.com/Aduro-Waterpr...883&sr=8-8&keywords=waterproof+headphone+jack as a cheap example of a product with a waterproof headphone jack.

The harder part of "waterproof" is that generally speaking the public doesn't understand what that means at all. There are standards for depth of water (and salinity of water) to which the product can be safely submerged, but people hear "waterproof" and assume they can take it to the bottom of the ocean and all will be well (see reviews on the above link for examples). The deeper you allow the device to go the harder it gets to maintain water tightness, as pressure increases linearly with depth but expense (meaning, monetary expense as well as design tolerances and necessity of effects on external product design) to achieve water-tightness is super-linear with pressure (in the shallow ranges; once you get to a certain pressure level the curve almost flattens out again). And, of course, having a bog-standard headphone jack indicates that any old headphones (most of which are NOT water-proof at all) can be plugged in, and people will blame the phone for any issues arising from their headphones shorting out while in the pool.

All that said, I'd love to see a toilet-proof (and, er, subsequent sanitization-proof) iPhone. I'd also love to have an iPhone which could take me jumping into the pool in an emergency if necessary (which caused the premature death of my old Treo 700 many a year ago). Hell, not having to worry about it dying in a sudden rainstorm would be just great too (appears the 6S is at this level, but not guaranteed as such).
 
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Forget water-proofing. I want one that is Government spying-proof.

Like the existing iPhone range?

You'll fall into one of two camps: the paranoid who thinks that Apple is just lying to you when they say that even they can't access your data because it's encrypted or you'll understand that iOS is the most secure operating system with no backdoors for government (or other) spies.
 
Then why remove the 3.5 socket?

Their relentless and misguided pursuit of extreme thinness?

Take a look at your iPhone. What is the tallest port on that device?

No matter what that port is on a given device, there is an almost 100% guarantee that Apple is looking to remove that port. Same pattern seen on MacBooks for many years as well. Bulky ports require bulk in the devices, and so are removed roughly in order of tallest to shortest (some exceptions, but not many).

I don't know how "misguided" that pursuit of thinness is, though. I'd rather have more battery life than a little more thinness, but thin devices are immediately noticeable and to me at least feel better in hand. It is a tradeoff, not a useless goal. And, it is worth noting that the 3.5mm socket has quite a volumetric cost in the phone as well, which also affects how large the battery can be inside any given case.
 
I like that they design with quality (e.g. the water resistance stuff in 6) and not make a big deal out of it.

A water resistant 7 would be a big seller I think. I'd want one.
 
Many of those "low" standards have more to do with Apple not being able to defy physics...but you know, who cares about that right?

True, I hope Apple stops the obsession with thinness. I'm sure people will not mind few tenths of mm in return for a better build quality, battery life and flush-fit camera.
 
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True, I hope Apple stops the obsession with thinness. I'm sure people will not mind few tenths of mm in return for a better build quality, battery life and flush-fit camera.
Hmm...I had a 6 and have a 6S now and have had zero issues with build quality. And since I'm using a case (Apple's silicon case) my camera is completely flush. The one thing I do want to see with iPhone 7 is a much better camera. The 6S was only marginally better than the 6 IMO.

^ This. I'm amazed a company renowned for design has released phones with such low design standards!

Apple could just release a plastic phone. Then there would be no issues with antenna bands. :D
 
One of apples recent patents was for a flexible membrane to protect the lightening port and also would be able to charge thru. That'd solve the waterproofing of the port.

I don't understand why some people list the slightly protruding camera or the antennae lines as the main things they want changed. I don't mind them at all. Or at least they don't bother me. But it looks like the antennae lines at least will go away with the new casing material being used for the iPhone 7. Could it be liquid metal finally?

Personally I'm most interested in a new design. Edge to edge glass fused to a liquid metal waterproof body would be sweet. I bought a bunch of LQMT shares just in case. Heh heh heh. Doing away with the physical home button would be cool too. I've heard about the no headphone jack rumor. That'd be interesting...but perhaps cause some backlash.

I'm sure with the iPhone 7 getting a new case design, leaks should be coming soon. Exciting.
 
Hmm...I had a 6 and have a 6S now and have had zero issues with build quality. And since I'm using a case (Apple's silicon case) my camera is completely flush. The one thing I do want to see with iPhone 7 is a much better camera. The 6S was only marginally better than the 6 IMO.



Apple could just release a plastic phone. Then there would be no issues with antenna bands. :D

Apple pretty much acknowledged the bending issues with iPhone 6 by reinforcing the metal chassis in 6S. Although most people use case, this should not be taken as an excuse for poor design. I feel that the entire device should be contained in the metal enclosure and making the device thinner at the cost of parts hanging out isn't good design.

Regarding the plastic phone, I kinda like the iPhone 5C for its clean look:D. Or they could intelligently integrate antenna bands like the iPhone 5S design. I find the iPhone 6 antenna bands ugly.
 
No reason why an electrical socket can't be made waterproof and still allow conductivity (just need to make it capable of being a tight enough fit that the water bridging conductors is negligible, or take advantage of low-wattage over long distances like with waterproof headphone jacks). I don't think the 3.5mm headphone jack is actually a problem there, though. It can be tightly sealed from intrusion, and given the current and distance between contacts short-circuiting due to water is minimal. See http://www.amazon.com/Aduro-Waterpr...883&sr=8-8&keywords=waterproof+headphone+jack as a cheap example of a product with a waterproof headphone jack.

The harder part of "waterproof" is that generally speaking the public doesn't understand what that means at all. There are standards for depth of water (and salinity of water) to which the product can be safely submerged, but people hear "waterproof" and assume they can take it to the bottom of the ocean and all will be well (see reviews on the above link for examples). The deeper you allow the device to go the harder it gets to maintain water tightness, as pressure increases linearly with depth but expense (meaning, monetary expense as well as design tolerances and necessity of effects on external product design) to achieve water-tightness is super-linear with pressure (in the shallow ranges; once you get to a certain pressure level the curve almost flattens out again). And, of course, having a bog-standard headphone jack indicates that any old headphones (most of which are NOT water-proof at all) can be plugged in, and people will blame the phone for any issues arising from their headphones shorting out while in the pool.

All that said, I'd love to see a toilet-proof (and, er, subsequent sanitization-proof) iPhone. I'd also love to have an iPhone which could take me jumping into the pool in an emergency if necessary (which caused the premature death of my old Treo 700 many a year ago). Hell, not having to worry about it dying in a sudden rainstorm would be just great too (appears the 6S is at this level, but not guaranteed as such).
That would be a toilet lid. You can even sit down when you aren't doing a #2! And iPhones don't fall in when it's down.
 
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Forget water-proofing. I want one that is Government spying-proof.

Might be cheaper to make your own device, at microchip fabrication level I suppose. You're also assuming two things - that the government is spying on you that much (really?), and that Apple's boffins are or are not complicit in helping government despite telling us they are not or are.
 
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The iPhone 7 concept artwork in this article appears to be for an iPhone 5/5s sized phone, as it is missing the 7th row of icons that the 6/6s has [6 rows, plus the 7th in the dock]. I would think that a virtual home button on the screen would not sacrifice a row of 4 icons on the Springboard.
 
^ This. I'm amazed a company renowned for design has released phones with such low design standards!
I don't think Apple has enough money to defy physics yet. Maybe when the iPhone 7S comes . . .
True, I hope Apple stops the obsession with thinness. I'm sure people will not mind few tenths of mm in return for a better build quality, battery life and flush-fit camera.
IPhone 6
Build Quality: Excellent
Battery Life: Excellent
Camera: Using Case. Don't care.

Verdict: I want my phone thinner than paper.
 
And I guess that Apple lightning cables will be so much stronger and last longer than a headphone cable and Apple will be so generous as to provide an adapter with each phone

Bad idea to remove a standard from a phone, if Sony can waterproof their 3.5mm jack I'm sure Apple can

My issue is beyond waterproofing and has nothing to do with replacing it with Lightning cables. 3.5mm jacks have been around for decades now, I'm sure it's time for a better quality cable interface that will produce better quality sound and more durable. Who ever takes on that task is fine with me even if from worst than the devil himself AKA M$.
 
This concept design is spot on. iOS could take use of that space around home button by replacing the navbar (back/forward/options controls) with it and making bigger phones usable with one hand.
 
Apple trying to play catch up again - as in Sony's Xperia phones have been waterproof for years. I love my Z3C :)

Still I'm sure TC will come up with something typically Apple such as 'immerse-able' :eek:
 
Do you honestly think that Apple is an honest company? Do you think that the iPhone 7 will have 4GB of RAM? Do you think that Apple will provide the fastest processor in iPhone 7? What a joke. Of course not. Non s models are focused on design. The S models are for "speed". You can't be that blind. Engineers don't have to stress too much on the regular releases compared to S models.

And what others have said wireless charging is inconvenient. You have to leave it there still while with a cable it can be moved around. Ignorance is bliss my friend.
Hasn't every new model gotten faster then the last? Or do they put a halt on improvements with a new case design? Is the iPhone 6 not faster than the 5S? Was the 5 not faster than the 4S? Apple adds things in as they become available. They will make improvements every year. They don't just skip a generation and not improve on things because it's not an S model.
 
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Apple trying to play catch up again - as in Sony's Xperia phones have been waterproof for years. I love my Z3C :)

Still I'm sure TC will come up with something typically Apple such as 'immerse-able' :eek:

Apple is not playing catch up with anyone. Someone speaks from the ass and you take that and run with it.
 
An all-in-one? :'(
What about the ones using power banks on the fly?? Listen and charge, no??
 
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