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3G -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S -> 5 -> 5S -> 6 -> 6S -> 7 -> 8???

Come on people, there's no reason to believe Apple will break the cycle. We're getting a 7S this year, and the 8 is coming next year.
That's what I thought all along. Some people likes to think this is a special because of 10 year anniversary. The least thing Apple could do is keep the same design of iPhone 7. Release a special edition color scheme of the original iPhone and make it only available on 256gb. Besides it's Tim Cook he only cares about making more money anyway. Apple already said iPhone 7 is one of the most successful release of the iPhone history. Why would they break that success when they can just add another color and people go crazy about it.
 
The problem with this is that everything about the "normal" iPhones seems like an after thought. I mean the 7 looked outdated the day it was announced, it is gonna be even worse with the Pro one right next to it. Justifying the already enormous price tag of a then subpar phone is not gonna be easy for a lot of people.
 
3G -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S -> 5 -> 5S -> 6 -> 6S -> 7 -> 8???

Come on people, there's no reason to believe Apple will break the cycle. We're getting a 7S this year, and the 8 is coming next year.

Disagree. I see plenty of reason to break the cycle. It's the 10 anniversary of the iPhone. There's far too many rumors suggesting something in addition to a 7S or instead of a 7S, and then there's the fact that Apple broke the cycle of the "numbered" iPhone being a complete redesign with the 7, which is a far bigger deal then a mere numbering scheme.
 
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If thats the case, my current iPhone 7 will be my last iPhone. I am already unhappy with the fact that I get the short end of the stick when it comes to features just because I dont want to have a huge iphone plus. Combine that with the fact quality has suffered with the hardware and software as of recent.

Android may not be up there with apple in terms of quality but at least i'm not paying close to 900 for poor quality product.
 
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True! Picking my first iPhone (5) was the best experience ever

I'm all for choice -- don't get me wrong. But even having adopted the 7+ as my latest -- I can say with certainty that if the "plus" model had never come to fruition, I would have been completely satisfied with another standard iPhone 6-sized phone ( I would have never even known the difference!). My life would have carried on and I would have liked the new device the same as I've liked all of the others.

That being said, I really don't care what Apple does moving forward. I mean, the upcoming product line won't change MY purchasing behavior as much as other factors outside of Apple's control (like cell phone contracts ending, the new-fangled "financing" of iPhone through carrier or Apple programs, etc.).

It would seem that Apple has (perhaps inadvertently or outside of their control) shifted from a "blue ocean" to a "red ocean" strategy when it comes to smartphones. I think part of that is a result of simple market maturation... but the fragmentation of sizes/shapes/etc. is very "un-apple" and seems to signify a shift in the market and/or strategy being employed to service the market.
 
If thats the case, my current iPhone 7 will be my last iPhone. I am already unhappy with the fact that I get the short end of the stick when it comes to features just because I dont want to have a huge iphone plus. Combine that with the fact quality has suffered with the hardware and software as of recent.

Android may not be up there with apple in terms of quality but at least i'm not paying close to 900 for poor quality product.

The "short end of the stick" is not necessarily Apple wronging you or trying to shaft you. It's simple physical boundaries. They literally can't create a small battery that does the same thing as a big battery (keeping cost as the variable of interest). I would bet that if they wanted to put the dual-lens camera on the smaller iPhone there would be some other logistical challenges there as well. You're right that sometimes the withholding of features is a strategic move (and one that Apple has employed since I started paying attention 8 years ago) - but sometimes I think it's a simple R&D and Cost/Benefit implication.

The quality thing, I'll agree! My wife and I have had every iPhone since the 4 and I must say that quality has seemed to be the worst on the latest (since the 6). At least they seem to keep up their good customer service. That's really the only saving grace for the poor quality. It *was* a huge pain in the ass to get her 6s battery replaced -- but at least they did it. If or when they start losing or slipping in customer service, they're in trouble from a quality standpoint.
 
They would not sell at that price. Let alone $1000usd (I'm in Australia and my jet black iPhone cost $1229)
Raising prices is just not good for anyone... smh

It will sell at any price. How many is the question? I think they'd sell a hell of a lot of iPhones even at $2,000 for an ultra premium device that looks different to all the generic cheaper models. It will be a status thing as much as all the great technology inside.
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You've more money than sense then.

That is definitely true, although I am still highly intelligent.
 
It will sell at any price. How many is the question? I think they'd sell a hell of a lot of iPhones even at $2,000 for an ultra premium device that looks different to all the generic cheaper models. It will be a status thing as much as all the great technology inside.

Exactly.
 
I can't wait for the glass version. I find the Iphone has pretty terrible reception compared to the glass backed phones I have used.
 
And that my friend is why come the end of year awards you will sweep the board!!
Apple fan of the year 2017, no contest.

Can't be long till you get a lifetime achievement award. And you know what, you bloody well deserve it!

I'm not interested in any awards. I just want Apple to keep making great products. As long as they keep building new products that are the best in all the categories in which they compete, I will keep buying Apple stuff regardless of the price tag.
 
The problem is most people are going to want the new design. Why even bother with a 7S model?

Hopefully they are able to make a decent amount of the 8 for launch. But I doubt it.
 
If you look at the so called "stainless steel frame" it only makes sense that they will be using liquid metal (hence why I bought a bunch of their stock).
They've been investing money into the company but 2018 will likely be the year for the big upgrade. I can't see them leaving the cycle.
New rumors seem to happen 2 years before product release as well so my bet is 2017 = 7s and 7s plus. 2018 = iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 plus.
I can't see a fully glass backed iPhone (too heavy and brittle) unless there will be some sort of screen inset on the back that displays information like time and notifications.
 
3G -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S -> 5 -> 5S -> 6 -> 6S -> 7 -> 8???

Come on people, there's no reason to believe Apple will break the cycle. We're getting a 7S this year, and the 8 is coming next year.

And last year everyone was saying that there's no reason to believe that Apple will remove the headphone jack. The rumours are actually pretty consistent this year, it sounds like we *are* getting a '7S' but we're also getting an 8. Considering how little was changed in the 7 from the 6S it makes sense to me.

The problem is most people are going to want the new design. Why even bother with a 7S model?

Hopefully they are able to make a decent amount of the 8 for launch. But I doubt it.

Companies like to buy the cheaper model for their employees. So do lots of people who don't care about having the best, but just want a nice new phone.
 
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Scenario A, of course.

They need to properly differentiate the iPhone X from iPhone 7S and 7S Plus to justify the $1000+ price tag, and they want people to favor it.

There will be only one anniversary model this year, which will pave way for the redesign of the entire iPhone 8 lineup in 2018 – at which time the new design will become more affordable.

Many people are bored with the iPhone 6/6S/7 design, and this is what Apple wants, so they can sell loads of the redesigned $1000+ iPhone this year. They are "forcing" many of us to pay up this year for the premium model, if we desire something truly new.

Great tactic, in fact.
 
I would love to see an updated iPhone SE that takes the design from the iPhone6 line
You and me both!
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In what way?

The whole Apple ecosphere is the consistency between devices and apps. The only thing Android OS offers that I know of is the ability to customize one's interface and the "open" architecture for programmers.
For me I am generally OK with iOS but I wish they would let us move beyond the rigid grid and folder structure that's been here for 6 years. Let us have some flexibility with where items are on the homescreen. That would be great right there. Although I poo-pooed the idea of Android widgets back in the day I think there may be some room for a limited number now on the home screens.
 
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Someone please explain to me: why is OLED screen a justification for a 1k+ price? Samsung has been using OLED screens forever?
 
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Apple appear to have done nothing new (ahead of the game or truly innovative) since the passing of Steve Jobs. Apart from some box engineering (including a butt ugly box watch), create a mountain of connectors and increase the price of everything to just above stupid level. Have they produced anything significant since the great man's passing? and if not - how do they justify their income? - oh yes - just keep putting the prices up.

Lol.
I assume you're only here for an echo chamber, but you made the mistake of including question marks, so I'm gonna bite...
I'd say one HUGE innovation in the post-Steve era was the creation of TouchID, w/ the incredibly novel approach of creating a secure enclave inside the CPU, not storing the fingerprint itself, etc. It was a HIGHLY technical solution w/ unheard of security, presented in a manner that had all the elegant simplicity that was Steve's hallmark.
I believe it was that same year that they surprised all the "leakers" by announcing the wolrd's first 64 bit smart phone processor. In a world where it seems like Android phones ALWAYS get hardware features first, it was quite the coup. Samsung was tripping over themselves to respond! I remember the CEO making these two awkward and contradictory statements in the same breathe: "that's COMPLETELY unnecessary & there's zero benefit to a 64 bit chip..... besides, our next flagship will have it too!".
I'd say, when the Apple Watch showed the kinda silly feature of sharing your exact heartbeat, it hearkened back to Job's habit of cooing over how Apple really put the "personal" in personal computing devices...
Terraced batteries are an innovation, for sure! I can scarcely believe no one had done it before (lol, a true indicator of the simple, yet brilliant). I think that solving the literal decade old issue of BlueTooth pairing annoyances and issues in one fell swoop w/ the design & creation of the W1 chip is a sterling example of innovation. Indeed, being the one company behind an increasing number of self-designed chips (now including the A10 Fusion, which itself houses the updated G9 graphics chip & the M10 motion coprocessor, also Apple Watch's S2 system on a chip, the T1 powering the TouchBar & providing security and encryption for TouchID & web camera, and the aforementioned W1 chip) is quite innovative as well.
I'm not discounting missteps or being an apologist for dongle annoyance, just keeping it real.... saying that Apple quit innovating after Steve passed is putting the blinders on.
 
3G -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S -> 5 -> 5S -> 6 -> 6S -> 7 -> 8???

Come on people, there's no reason to believe Apple will break the cycle. We're getting a 7S this year, and the 8 is coming next year.
The previous iPhone release is also the first time that a new number (7) retained the same design as before. So at this point now anything is game.
 
3G -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S -> 5 -> 5S -> 6 -> 6S -> 7 -> 8???

Come on people, there's no reason to believe Apple will break the cycle. We're getting a 7S this year, and the 8 is coming next year.

Bookmarking so I can come back to this. Apple repeatedly breaks cycles and numbering systems, look at any of their product lines.
 
Scenario A, of course.

They need to properly differentiate the iPhone X from iPhone 7S and 7S Plus to justify the $1000+ price tag, and they want people to favor it.

There will be only one anniversary model this year, which will pave way for the redesign of the entire iPhone 8 lineup in 2018 – at which time the new design will become more affordable.

Many people are bored with the iPhone 6/6S/7 design, and this is what Apple wants, so they can sell loads of the redesigned $1000+ iPhone this year. They are "forcing" many of us to pay up this year for the premium model, if we desire something truly new.

Great tactic, in fact.
That's absolutely brilliant. I never considered this scenario. It's totally plausible.

The average selling price of the iPhone will be insane this year. Gotta pay out those dividends somehow!
 
I definitely prefer Scenario A. Create an amazing new ultra premium iPhone with a stunning new design, incredible new technologies, and just make it as great as you can and charge whatever you need to make it profitable. I'd pay $2,000 for a truly ultra premium iPhone.

It will be A. That way Apple can sell if it's old stock of iPhone 7 parts. They can scale down production and sell the leftovers. The new one will have a waiting list.
 
At this point why bother with a 7S, all the rumors are pointing to the iPhone 8 this year.
 
3G -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S -> 5 -> 5S -> 6 -> 6S -> 7 -> 8???

Come on people, there's no reason to believe Apple will break the cycle. We're getting a 7S this year, and the 8 is coming next year.

Actually it's:

3G -> 3GS -> 4 -> 4S -> 5 -> 5S -> 6 -> 6S -> 6SS (7) -> 8
 
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