iPhone 8 and 8 Plus Production Will Reportedly Drop Nearly 50% When iPhone X Launches

[riverfreak]

iPhone 7 (not even the iPhone 7 Plus) is even more expensive than the Galaxy S8 over here. You can figure out yourself what people choose over here when you compare the phone 8 with a Galaxy S8 and the tons of cheaper Chinese brands. I would actually be surprised if the iPhone 8 is a success. For me it’s proof that Apple is really out of touch with the real world especially outside the USA.

Hyperbole much?

Can’t afford it? Don’t buy it? Prefer switching to Android with no regrets like your friends? Everyone I know that uses Android says “I like it, but...” And you realize you can use craptacular whatsapp on iPhones, too yes?

Meanwhile Apple will sell 100s of millions of iPhone Xs during its cycle, further increasing its cash reserves, and pushing forward tech like Face ID. All of this will happen whether or not you personally feel it to be too expensive.

 

[Traverse]

I like mine... :/

 

[WannaGoMac]

Ah, the typical "But I can afford the payment" statement. Knew there would be one here. Have you been to a car dealer lately?

Dont understand your point sorry.

 

[raskar]

Yes, we know. Apple is domed.

Wow.. and how did you conclude that out from my comments?
Wise up and grow up.

 

[UL2RA]

I like mine... :/

Same.

 

[9081094]

Hyperbole much?

Can’t afford it? Don’t buy it? Prefer switching to Android with no regrets like your friends? Everyone I know that uses Android says “I like it, but...” And you realize you can use craptacular whatsapp on iPhones, too yes?

Meanwhile Apple will sell 100s of millions of iPhone Xs during its cycle, further increasing its cash reserves, and pushing forward tech like Face ID. All of this will happen whether or not you personally feel it to be too expensive.

Speaking of hyperboles... you really think Apple will sell 100s of millions of iPhone X? Keep in mind the Samsung Galaxy S9 is around the corner...

And it’s not that I can’t afford it although € 1299 for an iPhone X is an hyperbole lot of money... I just don’t want to pay € 700 from those € 1299 as a profit to Apple.

 

[Tech198]

iPhone 8 and 8 Plus are just "intermient" phones till the X is ready.. then everyone will trade-up. There is that 50% loss.

 

[raskar]

Hah. Lack of orders. That's rich.

I had to wait several months to get my 6+ a few years ago. Loads of demand and orders, as evidenced by record and phenomenal sales.

I see the X being no different.

Are some people really shocked about today's news?

Correct, i also waited for my iphone 6 to arrive. Then it was a new design (unlike iphone 8 which is similar to my iphone 6) and the price i paid was £619 (Unlike the X, although its a new design but comes at a high cost £k)

Hence I think the X may not sell in volumes. Not too long before we all know.

 

[KingslayerG5]

If iPhone X's limited supply is true, then iPhone 8 / 8 Plus becomes the alternative for people on launch day. They can just use it as a stop gap for two weeks until more iPhone Xs are available. If beyond two weeks of return date, then sell it.

Life's Good, people. Too many alternatives. If shut out on launch day for an X, you can pick up iPhone 8 / 8 Plus, go Note8, V30, or Pixel 2 XL. Keep the money. Buy Mario Odyssey on the Nintendo Switch. Go back to work. Go home. Go watch Thor 3.

This is article is meaningless to create another stupid narrative similar to what ESPN and CNN do all day. Drama. Limited supply for the X could boost 8 / 8 Plus sales. Everyone wins here. Even Samsung the more iPhone Tens are sold.

 

[carpleror]

Hmm, let's see... 8 Plus vs. 7 Plus. $130 more expensive. Twice the storage. Far superior processor and graphics. Significant camera upgrades. True Tone display. Bluetooth 5.0. Wireless charging. Fast charging.

You're right, I don't see any difference. I'd rather have the slower phone with fewer features off the bat that also goes obsolete a whole year earlier and save the $130! /s

The average consumer has no need for most of those features. They will either decide to spend the money buy the iPhone X (which has a shiny new larger screen for the average consumer to look at and immediately looks more modern), or they will save as much money as possible and buy the 7 or even the 6S. The average consumer has no need for super fast processors or GPUs, doesn't know what Bluetooth 5.0 does, and has no idea what a True Tone display even means.

What the iPhone line up comes down to now is either you are willing to spend the money to get something that looks shiny and new, or you don't care and just want a relatively cheap (yet reliable) phone. There are very few people in the middle that are willing to pay the premium for all the upgrades in the 8, but not the X. I'd be willing to bet there are more people buying the 8 solely due to their ignorance of the differences between models, than a conscience decision weighing the cost-benefits of each phone.

 

[macTW]

Because your 'midrange phone' the iPhone 7 (not even the 7 plus) is higher priced than a flagship phone like the Galaxy S8 overhere. The iPhone 8 (really looks outdated compared to other brands and won’t sell in huge numbers because of their outrageous high prices and outdated appearance.

Didn’t know you were psychic, why are you wasting your ability reading the minds of cell phone buyers...?

smh

 

[9081094]

It's a solid 30% speed increase for about a 20% increase in price. No, it doesn't blow you away, but that doesn't mean it's not worth the premium.
Double the frame rate on 4K video is a pretty huge deal. It doesn't have to fool anyone when it's true.
I never said True Tone is "so important". I listed it among many improved features.
Wireless charging doesn't degrade the battery faster. I don't know where you got that false information.
You can get a refurbished iPhone 6S for even cheaper than the refurbished 7. Your point? I'm comparing retail prices of new products, not promotional rates on used products.

Yeah, Tim must not be very good at sales. I mean, his company is the most valuable in the world, ever, but since you don't like one of his products that must just be a fluke, right?

The 60 frame rate on 4K is a scam. Pure marketing. It was shown that 4K video at 60 frames/sec gives worse video quality.
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Didn’t know you were psychic, why are you wasting your ability reading the minds of cell phone buyers...?

smh

I’m not. I’m an observer and being realistic, you?

 

[macTW]

The 60 frame rate on 4K is a scam. Pure marketing. It was shown that 4K video at 60 frames/sec gives worse video quality.
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I’m not. I’m an observer and being realistic, you?

You’re not though. You’re living in a fantasy.

I’m done dealing with ignorance. Good day.

 

[9081094]

You’re not though. You’re living in a fantasy.

I’m done dealing with ignorance. Good day.

Talking about facts and opinions . Good day to you too.

 

[riverfreak]

Speaking of hyperboles... you really think Apple will sell 100s of millions of iPhone X? Keep in mind the Samsung Galaxy S9 is around the corner...

And it’s not that I can’t afford it although € 1299 for an iPhone X is an hyperbole lot of money... I just don’t want to pay € 700 from those € 1299 as a profit to Apple.

Yes. They will. During the iPhone X lifecycle, just like I said.

How do you gauge how much a device should cost and how much you are willing to pay for it? Is it based on the BOM? Is it based on your expected use? Do you pick everyhing based on your perceived degree of profit that the company is making? Do you pay full price at restaurants? What a waste.

 

[9081094]

1) they didn’t release the same phone four years in a row. 7 wasn’t the 6 design and 8 wasn’t the 7 design. It’s pretty blind to think they’re the same.
2) many people don’t care about having the most unique, newest design. If they like the design and love the internals, their phone does well.

1) It looks the same to me and I still can see
2) Many people? You mean the Chinese? Well Apple has fallen out of the top 5 over there. The emerging most important market

 

[actcyclist]

I'm happy to read this; last time Apple had problems with a drop in iPhone sales they released the iPhone SE. If they're selling less 8s than they expected this early, and they can't sell enough Xs due to supply constraints and the high price; they might release an SE2.

 

[9081094]

I'm happy to read this; last time Apple had problems with a drop in iPhone sales they released the iPhone SE. If they're selling less 8s than they expected this early, and they can't sell enough Xs due to supply constraints and the high price; they might release an SE2.

I hope it will have a more modern design than the iPhone 8 if they do. More screen to body ratio too. And not more expensive.

 

[bunnicula]

You assume that you can shift lines at a switch of a button when manufacturing is highly optimized to mass-produce and it takes several months to slowly ramp up and improve yields. The iPhone X has new components like the 'notch' and an OLED screen with thin bezels that might require specialized equipment. Although I doubt it is as easy as you make it seem, please note that I am not a specialist.

Which is probably why they are shifting now instead of later.

 

[otternonsense]

Oh well. Meanwhile, my 6S is sneering at the lack of a worthy replacement. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[robertosh]

Finally, I will stay another year (I hope) with my 6. Not convinced by the 8/X

 

[dampfnudel]

Considering Apple still sell 6S & 7, they could have skipped the 8 altogether and used all that freed up time/energy exclusively towards X.

That would've been the smart way to prevent any prolonged X shortages in the coming months, but reducing 8 production by 50 percent may be enough to give people a chance by February to just walk into a Apple Store or some other store and walk out with an X.

 

[Bacillus]

So you’d love it if Apple came out with an “all new redesign” that had half a GB of ram but looked like a cardboard box. Because it’s all new and different.
Man some people are so ignorant. Can’t see design changes because they aren’t presented with fireworks and light shows.

I didn't question specs (that never have been industry-leading either...)
So why supplement design turf with sub-spec turf from that other refurb line: iPhone SE
Happy hiking with iMacPro (a Pro machine in another closed, non-upgradeable refurb design - apparently, the only box left anyway)
And for how long has the venerable, orphaned MacMini been around...?
Now explain us "ignorant" customers how hundreds of designers at Apple keep themselves busy 365 days yearly ?
Ive brought us in the Performa-2 era and is now whispering to Apple Park trees to find new inspiration...

 

[bunnicula]

What do people expect in a redesign, though? It's a smart phone. They all tend to have roughly the same shape. They all have screens that cover most of the front of the device. They all have some sort of camera in back, and a camera for the front. They all perform similar tasks.

What is required to be worthy of calling a phone a "redesign" then?

I consider this a redesign because they've pretty much gotten rid of the bezels that this phone has had since it was first introduced in 2007. They've moved away from aluminum to glass and SS. We have a different material for the screen itself. We have another way to charge these devices.

We have new specs, obviously, but we get new specs every year.

So, yes... the X is a redesign. The 8/8 plus is a spec upgrade with some tweaks to an existing design. They both serve a purpose, which is to move away from the aluminum body and move into wireless charging.

 

[MadeMyDay]

Apple users saw through the glass-back veil, realizing that the iPhone 8 Plus is priced similarly to a redesigned iPhone X model available a month or two later.