iPhone 8 Said to Have Separate Wireless Charger, No Headphone Jack Adapter or USB-C Cable in Box

[BigDO]

If Apple release a charging pad, all they are doing is admitting that they are like 3 years (or more, not sure) behind the android counterparts.

Having tried it, charging via the pad is useless.

 

[BigDO]

Is this supposed to be a serious statement??

Apple sells 200 million iPhones per year and a handful of Mac's with USB-C ports.

There is positively zero good reason to move away from USB-A to Lightning included in the box.

Precisely. I don't currently and will probably never again use a Mac. What port it has on is of precisely zero significance to me.

 

[44267547]

I don't really care about wireless charging one way or the other, but I still use traditional wired headphones. The lack of a headphone jack is still an inconvenience in my opinion, and if the phone doesn't at least come with an adapter like the 7 does, that's even worse!

I think Apple will still include the adapter. I agree there would be some serious backlash if they didn't, aside from the already missing 3.5 Jack. If they didn't include it, this would resort the customer to purchase the adapter for $9.00 from Apple. Again, I don't see them not including it.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

Mark my words, the £1000 you are paying will be justified by passing off the new type of useless charger you have that is plugged into the wall and not a 'wireless' charger.

What a ripp off - i'd rather spend the extra 1.5 seconds to plug my phone in rather than putting it on a limited, expensive charging matt

Rest assured the 1,000 quid will be before you buy the charging pad.

 

[groovyd]

It's that or SE... hopefully not Anniversary Edition. It certainly won't be called the iPhone 8 and I hope it's not called iPhone 7S Pro or 7SE. I think iPhone X is the best name for this model.

X is such an awesome label for anything needing the appearance of a new life. its kinda techy, got no connection to whatever random number letter system you been using in the past and looks future thinking. question is then what?

 

[ovo6]

This better not be true. First they force me to get used to a huge 5.5 device to get the latest and now they want me to actually GO BACK to a "tiny" 5.0 just to get the best device? Stupid

Screen size would be bigger no need for a 5.5

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Given Apple's razor thin margins and sure to be bargain value pricing of the iPhone 7s (and MacBook Pro) it makes perfect sense they don't include a .50 headphone jack or USB-C cable. Plus it's all about the user experience right. People enjoy not having everything they need in the box. /s

5" model sounds interesting. Wonder where it fits in in the price spectrum. With the wireless charging and OLED display maybe same price as the plus? But honestly I'm unsure why the 4.7 would still exist as a 7s if its the same design as the 6, 6s, and 7. It should just stay as the 7 and let the 5.0" model get the attention (I say this as a 4.7 user). I think you start to get into really confusing consumers with 4-5 models. Too much to compare and consider for a phone.

 

[atomic.flip]

Apple is planning to release three new iPhone models later this year, including 4.7-inch, 5.5-inch, and an all-new 5-inch model with an OLED display and glass casing, according to Japanese blog Mac Otakara.

iPhone 8 concept by visual designer Moe Slah​

The report, citing "reliable sources" within Apple's supply chain, insists that only the OLED model will adopt glass casing and wireless charging capabilities, contradicting a Nikkei report and KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo's repeated claims that all 2017 iPhones will feature an all-glass design and wireless charging.

The blog previously said the more iterative "iPhone 7s" and "iPhone 7s Plus" models will lack wireless charging and retain the now-familiar aluminum design that Apple has used since the iPhone 6 lineup in 2014. Apple supplier Catcher Technology also said it expects only one new iPhone model to have glass casing.

The loosely-translated report suggests the wireless charging will not be a built-in feature, but rather a separate accessory based on technology from Luxshare, a Chinese company that has been rumored to be a supplier of wireless charging coils for the inductive Apple Watch charger in the past.

Samsung's wireless charging stand for the latest Galaxy smartphones​

If the report is accurate, it would mean Apple's next iPhones will not have truly wireless long-range charging capabilities, but rather contact-based inductive charging like the Apple Watch or Qi-based charging pads like Samsung's "Fast Charge" stand. Qi's latest Quick Charge 2.0 spec supports wireless charging up to 15W.

Over the course of the last year, there has been ongoing speculation that wireless charging company Energous has inked a deal with Apple to potentially provide wireless charging technology for the iPhone 8, but patents and other evidence suggest Apple may pursue its own in-house inductive charging solutions instead.

Overall, rumors surrounding Apple's wireless charging plans are still lacking consensus. Reports have linked MediaTek, Foxconn, Pegatron, and Lite-On Semiconductor as possible suppliers of wireless charging chips or modules.

Five years ago, Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller said "it's not clear how much convenience" wireless charging systems that have to be plugged in to a wall outlet add, while noting the ubiquity of the USB cord.The report also claims Apple will no longer include a Lightning to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter in the box alongside its next iPhones. Meanwhile, Apple's Lightning to USB-C Cable is said to remain an optional purchase, dashing hopes of connecting the "iPhone 8" to a newer MacBook or MacBook Pro straight out of the box.

Given that Apple's wireless AirPods and BeatsX earphones are now available, perhaps it feels including the Lightning to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter in the box is no longer necessary. But the inclusion of a Lightning to USB-A Cable, rather than a Lightning to USB-C Cable, makes less sense given Apple's port future.

Mac Otakara was one of the first sources to claim Apple would remove the headphone jack on iPhone 7, and it also revealed plans for a Jet Black color and longer earpiece cutout, but some of its rumors, including the addition of a "Jet White" color and a planned iPhone 6 battery program, have yet to materialize.

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Oh great! Now we will have supply issues for God knows how long on the higher end model since most buyers will be desiring an upgrade from their existing case design (including the wireless charging).

 

[blackcrayon]

They are trying their hardest to make people mad.

1. Adopting a gimmick charging system years after everyone else.
2. Not being able to plug the phone in to a new MacBook Pro out of the box.

You sound easily angered. I couldn't care less about contact wireless charging, but the inclusion of it doesn't make me "mad". They could probably include a $4 USB A to C adapter for a generation though.

 

[fourthtunz]

They are trying their hardest to make people mad.

1. Adopting a gimmick charging system years after everyone else.
2. Not being able to plug the phone in to a new MacBook Pro out of the box.

Apple not including adapters that not everyone needs makes sense for them business wise but with
their latest products having such glaring omissions it does seem that they are almost trying to
piss people off! How much money can these types of moves save Apple?
The phone isn't out yet so we'll have to see.

 

[wizard]

Physics is physics. Ive yet to see a method publish that over comes the problems of wireless power transfer.

A charging stand approach is pretty smart though if you are looking to seal up the iPhone for water proofing. I suspect this is a goal of Apple.

I agree with five-years-ago Phil. If wireless requires a pad, I don't see the point.

 

[joeblow7777]

I think Apple will still include the adapter. I agree there would be some serious backlash if they didn't, aside from the already missing 3.5 Jack. If they didn't include it, this would resort the customer to purchase the adapter for $9.00 from Apple. Again, I don't see them not including it.

At some point they'll stop including it, when they've decided that the transition away from the headphone jack is complete. The only question is how soon they decide that is.

 

[itsmilo]

Screen size would be bigger no need for a 5.5

It said 5.0 device will be the premium

 

[44267547]

At some point they'll stop including it, when they've decided that the transition away from the headphone jack is complete. The only question is how soon they decide that is.

Partially, considering it would also depend on if USB-C becomes a likelihood or not in the future. Which is a whole another realm on its own.

 

[cycomiko]

I know how to improve our performance. Up the price of the phone and remove all accessories. Nickle and dime them to maximal returns!

 

[ryanwarsaw]

What always impresses me about these rumors is how unrepresentative the people who reply are of the general market.

And how they comment with remarks like "Are you lsitening Timmy?" Like they can actually drive Apple's agenda.

 

[The Game 161]

It said 5.0 device will be the premium

They said originally 5.8

 

[MacDarcy]

Apple was bold and switched all their MacBooks to usb-c.....and they showed real "courage" when they got rid of the headphone jack on the iPhone....but they are real wimps when it comes to switching the lightning connector to a usb-c in the iphones. Come on Apple. If you're gonna do something, GO ALL THE WAY.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

You sound easily angered. I couldn't care less about contact wireless charging, but the inclusion of it doesn't make me "mad". They could probably include a $4 USB A to C adapter for a generation though.

Would you care to explain what I am using the USB A to C adapter for? I have looked at my iPhone 7+ several times now and am not sure where it would connect to.

 

[Mac 128]

At some point they'll stop including it, when they've decided that the transition away from the headphone jack is complete. The only question is how soon they decide that is.

I don't see Apple continuing to offer the adapter past the iPhone 7. You claim to still see it as an inconvenience, but Apple now has a year of sales data, and know how big an inconvenience it is. They already subsidize that adapter considerably, and I'd argue they can only justify giving it away, because the 7 is not substantially different than the 6S before it. Next year's iPhone appears to be a major update. They will want a clean break with the past. The iPhone 7 was the headphone jack transition iPhone. With the BeatsX release, all the pieces are finally in place to move forward without the headphone jack or need to support a likely minority customer base who won't embrace wireless.

If the iPhone sales had not broken records last quarter you might have a point, but there were likely a sizable number of iPhone 7 sold, and anybody who bought the iPhone 7 without a headphone jack, is likely not going to care if it costs them an additional $9 to use their old headphones. Moreover, if there's an argument to be made that 128GB 6s phones outsold the 7 (due to the lack of the headphone jack), then the 7 will likely still be sold with the adapter as an option to the new model without.

That said, if the rumors are wrong and the iPhone update ends up being nothing more than a "7s" then they might continue to include the adapter for another year, but even that seems unlikely to me.

 

[Sasparilla]

If the 7s & Plus is really just a 6sss (i.e. no real updates) sales could be dour...hopefully for Apple's sake they deliver this low cost wireless charging tech on all 3 models. Apple should also avoid looking cheap (and saving $0.50 per iPhone) by cutting adaptors and chords...those are little things that gradually alienate your customers.

If the Qi standard call is correct, it will mean we can use the colorful Nokia charging plates (Qi charging standard if memory serves) they made, which I always liked:

http://www.microsoft.com/en/mobile/accessory/dt-900/

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Schiller quote (when Apple doesn't have wireless charging):

As for wireless charging, Schiller notes that the wireless charging systems still have to be plugged into the wall, so it's not clear how much convenience they add. The widely-adopted USB cord, meanwhile, can charge in wall outlets, computers and even on airplanes

But then, when Apple acts with "courage..."

As for headphones, the Lightning headphones still have to be plugged into the phone, so it's not clear how much convenience they add. The widely-adopted headphone jack, meanwhile, can work with nearly all audio equipment, computers- including all of Apple's own Macs, and even on airplanes.

But "let's" get rid of it anyway and spin going from ubiquitous to proprietary that we won't even make work with "our" new Macs without an adapter.

So (add-on) buy the wireless AirPods right?

As for wireless headphones, the wireless AirPods only work with devices capable of synching with them, so it's not clear how much convenience they add. The widely-adopted headphone jack, meanwhile, can work with nearly all audio equipment- including much without a bluetooth option, computers- including all of Apple's own Macs, and even on airplanes. Forgot to charge 'em before the long flight? No problem, it "just works" without batteries too.

But "let's" get rid of it anyway even if Lightning headphones or AirPods would work on iPhones that had a headphone jack too. In other words, headphone jack didn't have to go to make both work.

A head of marketing sure knows how to spin whatever is to be sold (as he should). Remember when bigger-screened phones were ridiculed per one-handed use... until Apple rolled out their own bigger-screened phones and then such arguments were forgotten, just as comments about wireless charging on a pad will be forgotten if this rumor pans out. In fact, I'd bet that Apple has decided to "fix" wireless charging standards by coming up with something proprietary so that this feature can only work with Apple-created equipment at first and then Apple licensed proprietary something from third parties down the road. We do know how this works.

And remember when NFC was gimmicky & useless... until Apple rolled out Applepay?

What one needs to recognize when it comes with any such stuff is that what is for sale is perfect and what it lacks is stupid, gimmicky, etc that "no one needs" until Apple rolls it out and then everyone must have it, often because it's THE feature (or sometimes a "courageous" feature deprecation) that is fundamental in making the new Apple offering must have. Courageous. Amazing. Magical!

 

[s15119]

They are trying their hardest to make people mad.

1. Adopting a gimmick charging system years after everyone else.
2. Not being able to plug the phone in to a new MacBook Pro out of the box.

it's funny how people get so "mad" over rumors. Take a deep breath and save your anger over real issues.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

They already subsidize that adapter considerably, and I'd argue they can only justify giving it away, because the 7 is not substantially different than the 6S before it.

Subsidize? I think maybe you don't understand the meaning of the word. Apple doesn't subsidize it -- it's cost is fully accounted for in MSRP. If you bought a 7 or 7 plus you paid for it.

 

[rudychidiac]

I learned to believe the most disappointing rumours...