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iPhone 8 Said to Have Separate Wireless Charger, No Headphone Jack Adapter or USB-C Cable in Box

I'm starting to feel less excited about the so called iPhone 8. I think another jet black iPhone 7s would be okay. Honestly, I'm going back to a smaller iPhone. I have the 7+ and I now remember why I went from a Note 3 to an iPhone 5c.

I still love how my 6s feels. The weight isn't an issue with the 7+ but the size is. I'm not really making much use of the better camera. The RAM increase is quite negligent on 99.9% of the things I do on the device.

We shall see what they release but I doubt I'll jump on the 8 bandwagon if it's only a plus sized phone (Which is likely).
 
rGiskard said:
Apple's greatest strength in my view is how seamlessly iOS and macOS integrate. If you use Macs then an iPhone is a no-brainer. Yet now Apple's iPhone doesn't plug in to their laptops without an overpriced adapter cable.

From "Insanely Great" to "Insane" since Jobs's death.
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So your telling me you can afford a $17,000 and a $900 phone but can't buy a $20 usbc to lighting cable like many of us already have a majority of the customers buying iPhone don't own MacBooks or a computer with usbc ports yet
 
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mnsportsgeek said:
They are trying their hardest to make people mad.

1. Adopting a gimmick charging system years after everyone else.
2. Not being able to plug the phone in to a new MacBook Pro out of the box.
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Why would anybody be mad? If there are better options buy those. You don't have to buy Apple products. Plenty do and plenty don't. Some people on these forums act as though using apple products is part of their identity.
 
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I get the USB-A cable in the box, because while USB-A and USB-C are both standard connectors, USB-A is far more prevalent.

That being said... the right thing for Apple to do is to swap these out for customers at the time of purchase. You'll leave with 1 cable and 1 adapter... either USB-C or USB-A. You shouldn't need to buy a dongle to use the latest phone with the latest laptop.

Or Apple can put a standard USB-C port on the phone and we never have to discuss cables/dongles again!
 
I don't have a strong opinion regarding wireless charging for larger devices such as phones, other than "if they choose to do it, it shouldn't require any fiddling around". I know my Samsung-owning friends used to gripe about how easy it was to break the inductive charging connection just by bumping their desks.

It seems to work reasonably well with the Apple Watch. Actually smaller devices are a better fit for wireless charging, since tiny physical connectors are too easy to break.
 
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mnsportsgeek said:
They are trying their hardest to make people mad.

1. Adopting a gimmick charging system years after everyone else.
2. Not being able to plug the phone in to a new MacBook Pro out of the box.
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Or, the people getting mad just need to stop taking every rumor as fact and take a deep breath and get some perspective? Seriously, worst case, we're talking about a cheap cable for the minority of folks who charge their iPhone using their new MBPs.
 
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macfacts said:
Remember when Apple made a big deal about inserting the lighting cable upside down? With a charging pad, you can place your phone down any way you want. No need to fumble in the dark, trying to insert the cable the right way.
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Why not just plug the phone in before turning the lights off? ;)
 
It's not clear to me why anyone would be seriously interested in long range wireless charging when it is inherently extremely inefficient and slow. In an era when we talk about the unfortunate loss of power simply by transforming between DC and AC, the discussion surprises me. There are clear use cases for wireless charging, especially in medical devices and remote sensors. But a smartphone?
 
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Mac 128 said:
I don't see Apple continuing to offer the adapter past the iPhone 7. You claim to still see it as an inconvenience, but Apple now has a year of sales data, and know how big an inconvenience it is. They already subsidize that adapter considerably, and I'd argue they can only justify giving it away, because the 7 is not substantially different than the 6S before it. Next year's iPhone appears to be a major update. They will want a clean break with the past. The iPhone 7 was the headphone jack transition iPhone. With the BeatsX release, all the pieces are finally in place to move forward without the headphone jack or need to support a likely minority customer base who won't embrace wireless.

If the iPhone sales had not broken records last quarter you might have a point, but there were likely a sizable number of iPhone 7 sold, and anybody who bought the iPhone 7 without a headphone jack, is likely not going to care if it costs them an additional $9 to use their old headphones. Moreover, if there's an argument to be made that 128GB 6s phones outsold the 7 (due to the lack of the headphone jack), then the 7 will likely still be sold with the adapter as an option to the new model without.

That said, if the rumors are wrong and the iPhone update ends up being nothing more than a "7s" then they might continue to include the adapter for another year, but even that seems unlikely to me.
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How much do you think each of those little adapters costs Apple to make? For that matter, how much do you think it costs to make an iPhone relative to what they sell them for? I don't disagree with you that Apple will probably stop including them sooner rather than later (maybe not this year though) but let's not kid ourselves, they can afford to toss those things off of buildings like they're making it rain if they want to.

I'd also argue that just because the 7 sold well doesn't mean that lots of people don't still prefer to use traditional headphones. Of the people I know who have a 7 or 7+ most still use wired headphones, either the lighting ones that came with it, or they use the adapter. Wireless audio may be the future, but most people are still living in the present.
 
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Yet another iteration to skip. An analogue jack for me is essential. I've no interest in low quality BT headphones. I need analogue to analogue with no Post device compression. Jacks will be around for many many years to come for music professionals. I care not for gimmicky consumer headphones.
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Mac 128 said:
I don't see Apple continuing to offer the adapter past the iPhone 7. You claim to still see it as an inconvenience, but Apple now has a year of sales data, and know how big an inconvenience it is. They already subsidize that adapter considerably, and I'd argue they can only justify giving it away, because the 7 is not substantially different than the 6S before it. Next year's iPhone appears to be a major update. They will want a clean break with the past. The iPhone 7 was the headphone jack transition iPhone. With the BeatsX release, all the pieces are finally in place to move forward without the headphone jack or need to support a likely minority customer base who won't embrace wireless.

If the iPhone sales had not broken records last quarter you might have a point, but there were likely a sizable number of iPhone 7 sold, and anybody who bought the iPhone 7 without a headphone jack, is likely not going to care if it costs them an additional $9 to use their old headphones. Moreover, if there's an argument to be made that 128GB 6s phones outsold the 7 (due to the lack of the headphone jack), then the 7 will likely still be sold with the adapter as an option to the new model without.

That said, if the rumors are wrong and the iPhone update ends up being nothing more than a "7s" then they might continue to include the adapter for another year, but even that seems unlikely to me.
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Clearly you don't get business. Have you any idea the amount of money Apple make from adapters and lightening licenses!?
 
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mnsportsgeek said:
They are trying their hardest to make people mad.

1. Adopting a gimmick charging system years after everyone else.
2. Not being able to plug the phone in to a new MacBook Pro out of the box.
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Far more people charge their iPhones from the included charging brick or a USB hub than from the new MacBooks. The number of people who own the new MacBooks and who would actively charge their iPhones from them in this manner also pales in comparison to the total number of iPhones in circulation.

Perhaps in a few more years when USB C is far more prevalent, but for now, it makes more sense to still stick with USB A charging cables.
 
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Reading all these rumors makes me wonder if Apple really wants my business. I want an updated 4" phone. It's easy to do but maybe not enough profit for them. But I won't buy a phablet or another 4.7" phone.
 
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ryanwarsaw said:
Tim Cook does seem to have an uncanny sense of just how much we can bleed. That is his job after all.
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Or maybe the general user base simply doesn't have an issue with what Apple is doing and it is just a very small, albeit vocal group of users here who insist on kicking up a huge fuss over every little issue, real or imagined?
 
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Der Keyser said:
I fail to understand why most of you want an USB-C port over a lightning port in the phone.

Since the phone will never use any of the really interesting features of USB-C why not keep the physically FAR FAR superior lightning port instead?
It plugs in WAY WAY easier, it's way more robust and it's even much better looking :)

Regarding the other end of the cable: Who cares if you use USB-A or C?
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To add on to the robust bit.

The Lightning male port is reinforced to support the weight of an iPhone in standing position. Can anyone here comment if USB C can do the same? Seems a hollow port would be more fragile in this regard.
 
I'm pretty sure we'll get our usual S upgrade and they'll be nice.

Then we'll be pleasantly surprised by the 10 year commemorative special edition version that will cost what commemorative versions of things cost. Which is a lot more.

We know the supply chain is the main reason for a lot of Apple decisions, so what we'll be seeing in the special edition one-off X is a taste of things to come to stoke the iPhone fires. It will be limited edition of course, and a version of it will be available for sale the following year as we've read that's when the new equipment to meet demand will be ready to pump them out in mass production.
So a typical 7s cycle with a nice commemorative X model for those with deep pockets.
 
Out of all the things I would think Apple would include in the box, a USB-C charging cable would have never even crossed my mind.
Just because my MacBook has a USB-C port does not mean every other charging port in my world has changed.

Go buy the cable if that's what you want.
 
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