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They should focus on emerging battery technologies and rather than trying to fit as much battery as possible into the design.

That "3-5 years" period will remain the same if a large company like Apple don't invest in some of the new battery technologies.
Who says they aren't doing both? I think you'd have to be naive to think otherwise.
 
:rolleyes:

I am sure for some it doesn't matter, for the rest of us it does matter. Some people might be okay with an ever increasing price, good for them, many of us have what is called a "budget" and even pushing $1 a month over that budget isn't acceptable.

Then maybe the latest greatest iPhone is not for the rest of you? The iPhone 8, like all other flagship iPhones, is a luxury item. I couldn't afford a Mercedes so I got a Volkswagen. But I don't blame Mercedes for being priced out of my range.
 
If this rumor is true the normal size iPhone would have an increase of 38% for it to have 2700mah so the iPhone plus with 38% increase would have 4000mah, battery life would really be awesome especially with the new tech!
 
Then maybe the latest greatest iPhone is not for the rest of you? The iPhone 8, like all other flagship iPhones, is a luxury item. I couldn't afford a Mercedes so I got a Volkswagen. But I don't blame Mercedes for being priced out of my range.


Not a good analogy...

Have to stay within Mercedes to apply to APL iPhones....

It would be like not being able to afford the highest end Mercedes and settling with a C-class. Both outrageously priced is a good analogy. Volkswagon would be mid range Androids.
 
They should focus on emerging battery technologies and rather than trying to fit as much battery as possible into the design.

That "3-5 years" period will remain the same if a large company like Apple don't invest in some of the new battery technologies.
How do you know they don't do that ?
And currently they are forced to use tech from nowadays. It is very risky to put immature tech into mass prod. Even Samsung, one of the major battery manufacturer, and with today's tech, faced big problems...
 
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How do you know they don't do that ?
And currently they are forced to use tech from nowadays. It is very risky to put immature tech into mass prod. Even Samsung, one of the major battery manufacturer, and with today's tech, faced big problems...

While I agree entirely with your notion, it should be noted that there was nothing new about the battery tech Samsung ran into trouble with. It was just shoddy manufacturing from a certain production line.
 
There is no pleasing some people. Any ideas on how?
Who said I wasn't pleased? Who wouldn't be pleased with better battery life? Actually now that I write that I realize there is an answer: companies that produce battery cases and maybe even lightning cables.
 
"Battery tech won't advance for 3-5 years."

Exactly what I've been saying for a long time here. Apple isn't responsible for battery technology advancements. They aren't a battery company.
 
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While I agree entirely with your notion, it should be noted that there was nothing new about the battery tech Samsung ran into trouble with. It was just shoddy manufacturing from a certain production line.
That is what I said. Even one of the bigger manufacturer can have trouble with today's tech...
 
"Battery tech won't advance for 3-5 years."

Exactly what I've been saying for a long time here. Apple isn't responsible for battery technology advancements. They aren't a battery company.
They are partially responsible - they have teams working on batteries obviously and they have the money to develop emerging technologies. As you say, you've been saying that battery tech won't advance for 3-5 years for a long time because development and testing is taking a long time with a lot of these technologies.
 
That is what I said. Even one of the bigger manufacturer can have trouble with today's tech...
Ah! My eyes completely glossed over what was in between the comma's!

So much for the human's ability to "multi-task" :p
 
When I was on an iPhone 6 I consistently could go 2 days on battery life.

I am now using a Moto Z Play and I can go consistently 4 - 5 days on battery life.

The Moto uses OLED and is a 5.5" and a bit heavier than an iPhone but a great phone for it's battery life.

I generally do texting, work and personal email, weather, reading news stories, and some google searches. And this was on both phones.

Don't misunderstand me, I love the iPhone's size and light feeling especially in that matte black but Android's look, feel, options has captivated me until iOS offers similar capabilities. But I will say, it's the battery life that is the most important to me over anything else. A day's worth just does not cut it for me.
 
You'll get what Apple offers and you'll like it! :eek::D

I wish car makers would develop technology that makes 50 mpg as the minimum standard for fuel consumption. Better yet I wish that we would have already moved away from the internal combustion engine.
Pfizer, Merck and Bayer should have already developed the cure for cancer.
Apple should have already solved world hunger.
 
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still not ready for production I guess
Yeah they need more testing and in some cases further development. I think a big problem is scaling them up to the kind of production that Apple deals with, which simply isn't possible at this time.
 
Some people have more money than sense. If the iPhone goes up even $1 I am out,
It is not about sense, it is about value
it is already expensive and Apple easily makes HUGE profit from these, there is no reason the price needs to go up. Unless that reason is pure greed.
It is not greed. Apple already has trouble meeting the demand. If the new iPhone is much improved and harder to manufacture, they have no choice but increase the price to balance the demand with ther production capacity.
 
This is good news but in the future they should focus on emerging battery technologies, rather than trying to fit as much battery as possible into the design.

Who says they aren't doing both? I think you'd have to be naive to think otherwise.

I think it's the Tinkerbell analysis of technology. If Apple leadership all close their eyes and wish REALLY REALLY HARD then we get better batteries tomorrow instead of having to do all that pesky slow R&D work.
 
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Like a triangle?

No. Still same geometrical frame but different design. You know.... not the same iPhone 6 for like 4 years in a row. All phones from all phone makers are square but they have different designs. The user you quoted have a valid point. Apple is a lazy ass when it comes to redesigning their products. They get away with just a bit of home button change and antenna bands change and call it redesigned.
 
Well, I've been pretty critical of Apple/T. Cook lately, but I sure can't criticize the idea of Apple increasing battery life in the next iPhone(s).
 
Happiness comes with expectations. Most of our expectations are measured by what we know and already is on the market today. If those expectations aren't met in reality you'll get disappointed. The reality today is that a premium brand as Apple doesn't deliver what most of it's competitors are doing for years. So you have to ask yourself why are you paying so much money when you could have the same for far less.... that's the question you should ask yourself (myself included). The question to ask Apple: why are you selling old hardware for todays prices and why are you asking premium prices because you set expectations to premium as well.
I completely agree, but I am certain Apple is working on the new battery technology for the future. Everyone whines when an iPhone gets thinner and less battery. This rumor is stating that they're gonna ADD battery to the phone, and that guy wanted to complain about it. Lol ridiculous. I'm all for Apple adding battery.
 
Not a good analogy...

Have to stay within Mercedes to apply to APL iPhones....

It would be like not being able to afford the highest end Mercedes and settling with a C-class. Both outrageously priced is a good analogy. Volkswagon would be mid range Androids.

Well, I'd put the 32GB version iPhone 7 in the same league as a C300. Easily obtainable for $45K. That's pretty average for a mid-scale car. Near luxury, not luxury. Heck some pick-up trucks cost that and more.

It's annoying when Apple jacks up prices for no reason like the iPad Pro 9.7 and new MBP. If they add reasonable improvements to the iPhone 8 like materially better battery life, better screen, better camera then I'm ok with small increase around $50 -- maybe $100 depending on the improvements.
 
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