Please god don't let there be a touch id on the back. I always thought that was the dumbest thing i've seen on android phones. If apple can't work out how to integrate the touch id under the screen then just leave it where it is. I'd rather that then the stupid thing on the back where its completely useless.
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Im curious about the tiny holes aling top edge - thinking more mics for noise cancellation - per Phil's comments on AR experience and voice recog needing cleaner audio pickup. And with 4 mics now, could see stereo recording - no doubt to be coupled with the stereo video (dual camera).
Still, yes its just a render, and yes looks piss poor imo if the big hole is because 'our team failed to execute' after buying companies and developing tech for years to get it on fromt under glass. Remember that Jobs iPhone 4 was intended to be the end-all using sapphire. All this aluminum has been gap filler buying time, and its always looked like it - designing visible bands just to get people fixated NOT on the piss-poor move from glass to aluminum.
just my two cents. one for the tiny holes but one for the big hole (in execution).
Still, yes its just a render, and yes looks piss poor imo if the big hole is because 'our team failed to execute' after buying companies and developing tech for years to get it on fromt under glass. Remember that Jobs iPhone 4 was intended to be the end-all using sapphire. All this aluminum has been gap filler buying time, and its always looked like it - designing visible bands just to get people fixated NOT on the piss-poor move from glass to aluminum.
just my two cents. one for the tiny holes but one for the big hole (in execution).
It was un-Apple like for them to debut the iPhone with a recessed 3.5mm stereo input and a cheap thin pastic bottom on the back of the iphone but they did.
I know right, I was thinking something similar like what if you were a spy and you were tied to a chair, hands and feet, how could you unlock your phone to see when the bomb is going to go off? That's right, iris scanner or face recognition is the best possibility in this situation. Apple really should have thought of this before the design phase. Ugh.
From this render, it actually look not bad. Just the finger sensor position still maybe way too low. Probably not also because if it is super wide like S8+ then it might be a correct position.
I seen a lot people complain on finger sensor on back, it actually not that bad. Both got good and bad for finger print sensor in front or back.
I seen a lot people complain on finger sensor on back, it actually not that bad. Both got good and bad for finger print sensor in front or back.
- Front finger sensor - very convenient when you want to turn on your phone on desk.
- Back finger sensor - frank speak after you use it (with correct position) and you will notice actually it is far better than put on front. The only cons on back is you can't turn on the phone on desk without picking up the phone. But if iris scanner is there, I don't see any issue on it if the iris scanner is working when you just look on your phone on desk.
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It boggles my mind how people don't absolutely get it why the wireless mouse had the charging port located in the bottom part!
You know how many times I've heard this in the past?
Face it, we'll bash it....then we'll buy it because that's just how it goes.
Good argument on all your points. I think if the touch ID sensor is placed on the back, it still gives the user options of unlocking it from the back or the front if there is facial recognition or Iris scanning. If Iris scanning debuts by the iPhone 8, I think this will be the next step in technology that is far more secure over touch ID, which rumors indicate that's where cell phone manufacturers are leading.
I know it will be a change for some with touch ID on the back, but the more I think about it, it's just another adjustment that some will get used to eventually.
Touch ID on back...no sale. Seriously? Who ever thought a fingerprint sensor on the back of a phone was a good idea? Most people use cases and some cases don't allow for a hole on the back to access the sensor, especially one with a clip on it.
I'm am Android user and upgrade every year. The Galaxy S8 looks awesome, but the rear fingerprint scanner is the sole reason I'm not considering buying it.
But then I have that choice. I have other phones to choose from. With headphone jacks, too.
If you're an iPhone user you don't have that choice. If Apple decide all iPhones will now put the scanner on the back, you'll have to buy into it.
In other words: rumors. On macrumors.com site. With a forum so that members can discuss these rumors. Nothing weird imho.
On another note, if this is the design apple will choose, it will be to the right direction. It differs from samsung, it is based on the most successful industrial design ever made on a mobile phone, and it is functional (e.g. offers better grip than a curved one).
If this is the 7s/7s Plus version of the phone only, and the 10th anniversary edition (whatever name it ends up getting) will be as constrained as is being speculated, it is possible we'll see record numbers of people simply holding onto their current phones until the "real deal" becomes more available.
Also, I know this is an artists rendering, but a lot of skepticism should be placed on going back to chamfered edges alá 5/5s/SE. Unless the glass on the back is true...that would be a nice melding of the 4/4s design and the 5/5s/SE design.
But that puts us back to TouchID on the back, which doesn't seem likely at all if glass back is true, unless, again, that will only be for the 10th anniversary phone...
If TouchID is on the back I can see Apple putting a lot of stress on a new and different method of unlocking the device, i.e. the retina or iris scanner that has been rumored. Then they can say, "Apple has always been devoted to your privacy, and we've gone to great lengths to protect it over the years. With this new method, your data is more secure than it ever has been before. It is the fastest, most advanced, and secure way of verifying your identity we have ever developed, it's like pure magic! Oh, and by the way, TouchID is still there on the back of the phone for an even more secure device." A bit like it will become secondary, or as a second factor of verification, like the passcode has become in the last few generations of phone.
Anyway, it's fun to speculate! Loving the hilarity with which people are so adamantly defending their own principally baseless thoughts and opinions as close to infallible and undeniable facts!
Also, I know this is an artists rendering, but a lot of skepticism should be placed on going back to chamfered edges alá 5/5s/SE. Unless the glass on the back is true...that would be a nice melding of the 4/4s design and the 5/5s/SE design.
But that puts us back to TouchID on the back, which doesn't seem likely at all if glass back is true, unless, again, that will only be for the 10th anniversary phone...
If TouchID is on the back I can see Apple putting a lot of stress on a new and different method of unlocking the device, i.e. the retina or iris scanner that has been rumored. Then they can say, "Apple has always been devoted to your privacy, and we've gone to great lengths to protect it over the years. With this new method, your data is more secure than it ever has been before. It is the fastest, most advanced, and secure way of verifying your identity we have ever developed, it's like pure magic! Oh, and by the way, TouchID is still there on the back of the phone for an even more secure device." A bit like it will become secondary, or as a second factor of verification, like the passcode has become in the last few generations of phone.
Anyway, it's fun to speculate! Loving the hilarity with which people are so adamantly defending their own principally baseless thoughts and opinions as close to infallible and undeniable facts!
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Unless it's wireless from some distance, I will be VERY disappointed. If that is the case, that means it took Apple 5 years to catch up with normal Qi standard charging. Not to mention they bashed it for so many years. So if the mysterious hole is for something as dumb as an apple watch type charger, I will forever say good bye to the iphone.
I can deal with samsung bloat ware for awesome hardware, but I won't deal with old tech with an aging OS.
Tim, YOU ARE ON NOTICE! pixel 2 impresses me and you will steal a loyal Apple fan for many years!
Oh I know... samsung did it already, so complaints will be less and Apple can say that this is the standard now, like dumping the 3.5 headphone jack... nice move, Apple. (And of course because they failed bringing Touch ID under the display to mass production, so this is their "smart" workaround and I'll have to skip another year to have Touch ID back in front on the 8s...) besides that I love how they returned to a 5 year old design everybody demanded for because they didn't manage to come up with something better since then. But hey, better than another iPhone 6 with upgraded specs...
People get so butthurt over rumors tho, i mean damn lol there ARE more important things to get in a tizzy over. i just get a kick out of it. its entertainment
Delay for how long? A year?
P.S. Why all the fuss about the fingerprint reader on the back? I am not getting it. It is as convenient a location as the bottom of front face.
this is the thing when i pick up my 7 plus my finger is basically right near to where the button is in the leaks. So really it is in a more natural position than say where samsung have it.Delay for how long? A year?
P.S. Why all the fuss about the fingerprint reader on the back? I am not getting it. It is as convenient a location as the bottom of front face.
if the back is not glass then maybe the hole is for wireless charging
Ant that's why the are damn good reasons why buttons etc. are placed relative to screens in mobile devices - referring to usability and ergonomics. If the hole in the back and being it is where it is, for a fingerprint sensor, then it's just plain stupid. You'd have to complete the process two-handed or dislocate your thumb.
Dumb gets dumber.