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iPhone 8 Will Include 'Revolutionary' Front Camera With 3D Sensing Abilities
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There will be still touchid for apple pay, it will be on the back of the iphone. It would be too much of a hassle if you are at an apple pay terminal and have to look at the screen.
But they' ll drop traditional touchid eventually. I could see when this camera is also implemented on the back , it will be able to read your fingerprint by swiping your finger across the back camera.
No that i think of it, why even wait, would the front camera be able to read /identify your fingerprint when you hold it in front of it or put your finger on the camera?
Sjeez every foto will have smudges.
Agreed, I also only use half of what my iPhone can do.
Just my opinion of a feature I can't do anything with at the moment, however it may well be that developers/Apple think of other possibilities than iris scan.
As for force touch, I try not to use it, but I usually press too hard and have to remember to lighten. I have a 2014 MBP without and a 2015 MBP with FT, which tricks me at times.
This all sounds cool and interesting, but I do hope there will be some more iOS advances to go along with the geewhiz hardware. I would imagine so. This rumor item simply can't address everything Apple engineers may be working on concurrently.
I'm all for this facial scanning feature being implemented on their "special iPhone" because I know some people will use and enjoy it. I've had it on the Note 7 and it was nice when it worked. But it's not something I'm willing to pay a premium for. Some will be. It sounds like we will get to have some choices coming up. I hope so. For myself, I'm content with entering my passcode manually (used to it since fingerprint sensors never worked well for me over so many years). I am inclined to pay for camera advancements, storage capacity, display quality and battery life. Additional health safety oriented features are welcome, too.
I upvoted some posts that were a negative response to this rumor not because I'm against it or negative about it, but I thought that buried in the negativity, the person made some sensible observations.
I'm all for this facial scanning feature being implemented on their "special iPhone" because I know some people will use and enjoy it. I've had it on the Note 7 and it was nice when it worked. But it's not something I'm willing to pay a premium for. Some will be. It sounds like we will get to have some choices coming up. I hope so. For myself, I'm content with entering my passcode manually (used to it since fingerprint sensors never worked well for me over so many years). I am inclined to pay for camera advancements, storage capacity, display quality and battery life. Additional health safety oriented features are welcome, too.
I upvoted some posts that were a negative response to this rumor not because I'm against it or negative about it, but I thought that buried in the negativity, the person made some sensible observations.
guessing the same thing. Certain things like unlocking would be TI and other things like purchases could be facial. This is the only thing I can think of that would make any sense. Maybe purchases would require a fingerprint and facial at the same time. Try faking that.
Exactly! "..there aren't that many.."
Actually I'm surprised that a Windows phone exists. Their sales don't even register in market analysis of mobile phones.
You're correct it doesn't detract that they implemented it before Apple.
I never worry about whether Apple is first with something. I don't think Apple was the first to have a Touch ID system but it certainly helped popularize it. Microsoft had a tablet long before iPad. Of course, it didn't sell. It took Apple to lead the way with adoption.
You're confused this has nothing to do with 3D TV. Supposedly this new camera can take 3d facial feature XY & Z plane. Not sure XY in typical camera.
Actually Windows Hello requires a Realsense camera, which is an IR-sensing 3D camera as well. This makes the face recognition more reliable (e.g. when the lighting is bad) and more secure (due to the 3D imaging, the system cannot be fooled e.g. by holding a photograph in front of the camera). This "revolutionary" camera sounds like a Realsense clone.
I don't know if this rumor is true, but it would fit with this story from last year:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3048...lans-to-make-realsense-emotionally-smart.html
I hear ya, bro... Kind of like Apple introducing a smartphone without a mechanical keyboard. A glass touchscreen? Jeeeez...what were they thinking with that dumb idea?
I see loads of potential with 3D, going far beyond facial phone unlocking.
he's probably not.
imagine all of the avatar creation tools ever created (including the ones found in major games). no one needs that stuff in a mobile phone.
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it's likely Samsung's antenna icon is very "generous" and doesn't accurately represent the actual signal strength.
There are lots of moving parts here, and people are immediately (as always) insisting that their bugaboo is the whole story.
(a) The technology behind this is VCSELs, cheap arrays of eye-safe IR lasers. These are taking off in a big way because of LIDAR in cars, which means the tech (the arrays, the detectors, the algorithms) is cheap and ready to expand into other markets.
So where to use it? A variety of options have been suggested from laser range finders ("how far is it to that tree over there" to 3D cameras (capture Z along with RGB for every pixel) to face and gesture recognition to face remapping ala avatars.
Presumably Apple is experimenting with all of these. Presumably not all of them will ship.
(b) Just because YOU (whoever YOU are) think something is stupid doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees with you. Plenty of people felt (and continue to feel) that Snapchat is stupid, or that rich messaging is stupid. That's fine, you can ignore those technologies. But the people who like to play with Snapchat or rich messaging may well find value in dynamic avatars. Maybe setting your avatar will become as common as setting your facebook mood --- when people facetime you, they'll get your "happy as kid in a candy store" avatar if that's the mood you have set?
(c) Fingerprints did not REPLACE passwords, they augmented them, so why should face recognition replace fingerprints?
A more obvious use case is that for a very particular set of use case (and only there) face recognition is smoother than fingerprints -- for example when you swipe on a notification on the lock screen, it would be smoother to IMMEDIATELY unlock the phone and open the app, rather than the current intermediate state where you have to fingerprint after the swipe.
A 60 year-old guy has lived most part of his life without internet, must he have internet now? Not really. It depends.
I welcome any innovation Apple could bring to the market. When touchID first surfaces, many discarded its potential, because?
Because Tim Cook WILL personally come to your house and WILL hold an iGun gun to your head until you click the order button.
The first time Microsoft used this kind of tech was with the Kinect on the XBox 360. The Kinect sensors and tech were developed by the company PrimeSense.
Apple bought PrimeSense a few years ago and probably will use this tech (an improved version of it) if they do implement face recognition, so I don't see how you could say that Apple/PrimeSense tech is a RealSense "clone", as it's closer to being the other way around.
I agree 100%. Apple's strength is not "pure" innovation - bringing something to market the world has never seen before. Their strength is exactly what you described.
So help me god, if they actually go about making the stupid Avatars they came up with using this tech I'm going to be pissed.
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...e-future-avatar-creation-and-editing-app.html
Hopefully they're doing something useful with this technology instead.
Oh that is definitely coming, built in Snapchat style filters with voice change etc. Put your house on it.
Looking forward to the Tim Cook filter.. "Apple Watch of the charts y'all ..!"