iPhone 8 With Longer Battery Life Said to Entice Those With Older iPhones to Upgrade

[hagar]

Good news, I am not impressed with the battery life of my iPhone 6S. It frequently stops before reaching the evening. Unacceptable.

 

[MH01]

Hmmmm so it's getting all the features it's behind in regards to premium android devices like wireless charging and oled and it's also getting longer battery life..... I believe everything but the battery life

I'd be really happy to finally get a battery improvement , though I suspect this might be another MacBook Pro battery claim while getting thinner

 

[rikscha]

spot on! I'll be buying it without even seeing it first.

 

[groove-agent]

I liked when iPhones were $200.

For Christmas we bought my mom a Motorola G for under $200. I was blown away by the value. It is a really good phone for the money. It made me question why I spend so much money on an iPhone.

 

[JungeQuex]

Not at $1,000 it won't.

Speak for yourself. Some of us scalpers will make it happen. Shut up and take my money (earned from eBay)!

 

[groove-agent]

It won't entice me if the result is a thicker phone.

Oh God really? Who cares if it's a little thicker. Thinness is superfluous.

Recently, I was unexpectedly in the hospital had no access to a charger. I had to coordinate with the rest of my family as to what was happening etc. Do you think I would have given a rat's ass that my phone was too thick at that point? I was more concerned that I was running out of battery life and couldn't contact loved ones.

Battery life is more important, especially in an emergency situation.
[doublepost=1487891252][/doublepost]If battery real estate is equal in percentage of battery gain, that looks like about a 20% increase in battery life. In itself, nothing too ground-breaking albeit ever bit helps.

Now what does this meaning when you want to replace the battery? Will it be harder to find aftermarket L-shaped batteries or will we have to get gouged by Apple and buy it from them (like their soldered on SSDs)?

 

[MrGuder]

Plus an update that will make the battery life terrible on all iPhones will help as well....

I still don't understand why people rush to update to the latest iOS. It's not like your phone won't work anymore. My 6s works perfectly on 9.3.5 and I like the musi app better. How many articles have you seen where someone did not upgrade to the latest iOS and there iPhone stopped working or got some something bad that Apple said could have been prevented with the security updates on the latest at iOS? I stayed on iOS 6 on my iPhone 5 as long as I could then Apple released some kind of security thing that said everyone on iOS 6 must upgrade to prevent this from happening. I fell for it. I have never seen 1 article that a customer got something bad from a non jail broken iPhone just because they wouldn't upgrade their iOS.

 

[Rlittle89]

Title should read "Apple's Planned Obsolescence Said to Force Users Who Want a Working Phone to Upgrade."

 

[compete12]

My 6 Plus goes all day on 25% usage. Just turn off all the push notifications for all the BS Apps. Is it really that hard to just "check your email"? I mean, I know how important it must be for some people to make sure they get the latest Kardashian tweet, but I guess that's the same bunch of dopes that would pay over $1000 for a phone. iCircus...that's what Apple has become.

 

[BoltmanLives]

"An iPhone 7 Plus absolutely DESTROYS a Snapdragon 808 handset in terms of performance and efficiency. Look at the benchmarks for Apple A10 fusion vs Snapdragon 808."

Benchmarks? lets try perfomance side to side on normal activities. Like taking a photo and zooming in. Lets try asking the AI's questions, lets try seeing what works without data. lets see how they scale to larger screens, oh wait...nevermind we know Continuum is a differentiator here.

At $849 you get 128GB storage (or 256GB if you go small iPhone 7) and you don't need the slow SD card for extra storage. You just get a huge pool of extremely fast NVME flash storage which also helps the iPhone destroy the android/windows handset in terms of general speed, snappiness, and loading times.

I'm not currently using anywhere close to 32GB and if I did I would offload or upload to Onedrive or my PC/NAS

7 Plus has 3GB RAM as well.

Noted

NFC for payments is all for iPhone, yes.. But why would you want NFC to transfer files? Bluetooth (airdrop) and wifi wireless file transfers are way easier and less gimmicky.

Why would you restrict it, protect margins? Stifle third party devices?

Just because a camera sensor is 20MP doesn't mean it's any good. Megapixels don't matter. Just makes the photo take up more space (requiring you to use that slow SD card that fragments your whole device, saves SOME things to it and not others, causes weird issues, etc). How big and well lit are the pictures for lowlight performance? How good is the image processing? You can't easily just look at numbers for a camera and declare it as better or worse.

Lets zoom shall we?

Yeah, having a removable battery is handy, I will give you that. However, having a removable battery causes the phone to usually have a cheaper build and removable plastic back that makes the phone feel less premium. This is a tossup of form vs function though and personal preference.

Less premium ? , I have a Black Mozo Leather back and much more durable as well (no case, no screen protector)

Dual SIM is cool actually. I wish I could use that on my iPhone. I've heard it can cause excess battery drain, though but I haven't personally messed with it so I can't say for sure.

My battery goes > 24 hours and charges to full 55 min (3000 mAh)

If someone has other apple products, an iPhone will be MUCH nicer. It will sync everything automatically and the ecosystem is fantastic. Also the apps in the App Store tend to be higher quality. There are however less permissions for developers, sometimes limiting app functionality, unfortunately. That gives us iPhone users a more secure system, though.

Windows 10 Mobile is the most secure, syncs too with MSA "Messaging Everywhere and Phone Companion" Hello biometrics/Goodbye biometrics

With apple you also get far better support from online sources and apple stores are much better and easier to get help from.

Who needs help? Besides over a million on Insiders and Feedback Hub, free training at local Microsoft stores, service too but Lumias don't break

You also get software updates immediately. No waiting for manufacturers, no waiting for carriers for months. No bloatware from the carrier, only have to worry about apple on that front. You also get updates for many more years so improved support, functionality, and security updates to the device.

Windows Insiders are instant updates (builds) carriers cannot block, if on a windows Phone Insider is the way to go.

But yeah, these reasons are why people pay $849 for a phone. You get what you pay for. Some people need and want that extra quality, others don't and don't understand why someone would. It all depends on the way you look at things and what you are looking for from your handset.

I don't see the value personally, I feel most don't know about how great Windows Phone is and that's a sad and unfortunate situation. I hope it to be rectified with Surface Pocket and Windows Holographic. For now I'll admit Iphone seems to offer the best overall experience for most mainly due to more apps , but taking into account cost and other metrics Windows Phone is the best.

For the price Android is a great option too... my family has Androids, personally being in security I won't carry one and keep them on an alternate home network. Iphones are way to pricey for what you get IMO

No, you can stop once you pay off the phone. When it's paid off, it's yours. You don't give it back to the carrier and get a new one. You wouldn't have that extra expense of paying for you phone after it's paid off, you'd ONLY have a low $20 access fee. You only start paying for a phone again when you want to. If you want to have a brand new phone every year, however, then yes it essentially will be a permanent lease. It's 0% interest though so you literally are just paying for the phone, not wasting away $$$ on interest.

This practice encourages people to overpay, Apl should not make it seem less, the phone should stand on its merits

Way back with the old nationwide plans it was way worse because they ALWAYS charged you an extra $20/mo on your access fee, regardless of being on contract (if you had a smartphone). So even after your contract was over you kept paying for an invisible phone/contract afterword and it kind of was a waste of money not to upgrade, which was stupid. They would essentially force you to pay them at least $200 every two years for a new iPhone. Now it's on your terms. Your bill drops once your contract or payment plan is done, and you can enjoy a lower bill. Or buy outright and enjoy a lower bill.

I'm glad they ended subsides it was pulling wool over people's eyes. Glad some entity forced their hand to change that deceitful practice. Don't like Iphone for life , another deceitful thing to hide the exorbitant pricing.

 

[citysnaps]

Oh God really? Who cares if it's a little thicker. Thinness is superfluous.

Recently, I was unexpectedly in the hospital had no access to a charger. I had to coordinate with the rest of my family as to what was happening etc. Do you think I would have given a rat's ass that my phone was too thick at that point? I was more concerned that I was running out of battery life and couldn't contact loved ones.

Battery life is more important, especially in an emergency situation.
[doublepost=1487891252][/doublepost]If battery real estate is equal in percentage of battery gain, that looks like about a 20% increase in battery life. In itself, nothing too ground-breaking albeit ever bit helps.

Now what does this meaning when you want to replace the battery? Will it be harder to find aftermarket L-shaped batteries or will we have to get gouged by Apple and buy it from them (like their soldered on SSDs)?

For you, perhaps. Not for me. Also, along with increased thickens and volume comes increased weight. No thanks...
[doublepost=1487893425][/doublepost]

Same here, I love my thin iphone and don't mind having to charge it three times a day. I would gladly charge it four or even five times a day if Apple could shave off 1mm.

I'm so happy to hear that. Thank you for sharing!

I charge my 6+, in most situations, once every two days. When I'm out on the street making photographs then it's once a day.

 

[DUIduckSAUCE]

Have you factored in $41 or so per month per person for your expected lifespan of all you family members yet?

Its fun try it..all that for a new apl phone yearly lets look a popular choice the 7+ 128GB

EX:

35 yo male lives to 80... i phone a year plan (of course the payments go up with new models but lets keep it easy!)

$41 x 12 = $492 x 45 years of new iphone =min $22, 140 per you (add up family like Johnny 13 and Sally 7) for leasing an iphone (device only) yearly

Try it. Its called math. Apl did figure this out they knew people wouldn't

its only money
[doublepost=1487894272][/doublepost]I

question is will the phone screen size really be 5.8 inches

f they use the same screen as the s8 it will be.
[doublepost=1487894370][/doublepost]

It's actually worse than that. At 5% interest, that would be $83,083.93. Those new iPhones are costing you over $80k.

Or, more practically, Let's say you put that $41 in a retirement plan from age 35 to 65. At 65 you can start withdrawing $200/month until age 85.

So, you can have a new iPhone every year until age 65 or you can have an extra $200/month of retirement income.

I will take the iPhone.
[doublepost=1487894525][/doublepost]

Great retort. I feel put in my place. I have a job because I educated myself. Which is why I can afford all my "overpriced toys".

Isn't that what he just told you?
[doublepost=1487894674][/doublepost]

Well, that´s not entirely true. The very first iPhone retailed for 199 USD and users were expected to activate and set up a contract for the phone at home using iTunes, HOWEVER it was possible to entirely circumvent that process. I bought the phone off eBay at launch and and was probably one of the first people in Sweden having one. Good times.

The very first iPhone cost $599 and up usd. There was no subsidies.

 

[Gruber]

I use audio out in my car, home, at work (for headphones) and traveling. I lose my cheap traveling pods about once a year, and get new ones everywhere. I am not going to jump on the no-audio-out train any time soon. I have had every iPhone since the first one came out, except the 7. If Apple forces me to buy ****** lightning dongles on top of the ****** dongles I have to use for my mac, I'll get a Pixel. I expect that Google will offer similar edge2edge designs next autumn, too.

 

[aces99]

So you only get the OLED display, longer battery life, wireless charging, 3D sensors, etc if you buy the larger more expensive model. What about the ones that want the smaller regular model but want the upgraded features?

 

[IG88]

There won't be a "plus" 8 model. Never has this been rumoured.
There will be one new flagship model in a new larger size compared to the 7 (4.7")

Wasn't this same group predicting 3 phones last year? 2 versions of the plus model? How did that work out?

 

[DevNull0]

I will take the iPhone.

And I will be laughing at you lining up for food sales as I take several trips a year in my retirement days.

 

[Tech198]

I don't really worry about "battery improvements" on anything anymore, and it doesn't affect me. over the major of users it does.

People who like the whole 'yaki-yak' and surfing all the time with video streaming will be feel right at home with improvements..

The iPhone is starting to become like our Macs... 2% Tiny-tiny logic board and 98% bulky battery....

And now its a "L" shape....

 

[DUIduckSAUCE]

And I will be laughing at you lining up for food sales as I take several trips a year in my retirement days.

Sounds like you got our situations reversed as $200 a month isn't going to make or break my retirement.

 

[neutralguy]

Oh, you mean like how I feel when I get into the office everyday and logon and see the Windows 10 interface. Yep, I know the feeling of being underwhelmed all too well.

Also should be underwhelmed feeling that Apple still can't get into enterprise!

 

[Keirasplace]

My iPhone SE mostly gets 2 days on the battery (I dont use it often).

My iPhone 5S was given to my wife when I bought the SE and the 4S has gone to the kids.

We need to get back to where a Phone lasted 4+ years.

It is quite likely that my next phone will be an old school feature phone and an iPod, its cheaper.

I no longer want to be on that upgrade treadmill.

They still last 4+ years if you don't want to upgrade so not sure what you're getting at.

You don't have to upgrade,
in fact the last few phones have been less effected by new IOS versions than previous ones.
If you wait 4 months to upgrade to major IOS versions; you get by most of the teething pains of new IOS version slowdown of previous models and you are set.

If you hand down your phones (and not sell them), then the annual price for a phone get at least 3 years is what $150-200 a year max (since you save money by not having to buy a phone for the other person).

Considering what a current phone does, how on earth is that a lot of money?
I spend $700 on coffee a year.

If you keep it 4+ years and then gift it the price goes down to $100-150 dollars a year!

The 5SE is a recent phone and it's pretty powerful (as much as a 6s except for a few functions) and it will likely last you 4 years for sure and probably more if you're ready to swap out the battery.

 

[doelcm82]

So you only get the OLED display, longer battery life, wireless charging, 3D sensors, etc if you buy the larger more expensive model. What about the ones that want the smaller regular model but want the upgraded features?

You can have it in a couple of years when those features trickle down to the less expensive model.

 

[HarryWild]

Make mine JB iPhone 8 with 512GB storage! People spend $1,500 on an minor option on a new car! This is a bargain purchase in my book!

 

[BoltmanLives]

Make mine JB iPhone 8 with 512GB storage! People spend $1,500 on an minor option on a new car! This is a bargain purchase in my book!

LOL no, really iPhone is so boring today same grid nothing cool...how bored do you have to be to get the exact same thing year after year basically?

I can see why mac users are upset, Apl id on a design hamster wheel with iPhone..yawn

 

[Virinprew]

Bigger battery! Didn't they learn from Samsung?

The problem isn't about big battery. It's about the quality of battery.

 

[noles1983]

Make mine JB iPhone 8 with 512GB storage! People spend $1,500 on an minor option on a new car! This is a bargain purchase in my book!

And a car lasts over a decade...