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Yup , on the hardware side most popular Iphone parts are from Samsung
On software side most popular software in AppStore is from Microsoft
On services side when possible, most popular is Google followed by Microsoft
On store side, Apple has stores
On Browser side ,most popular is Chrome

Please, don't let the facts weigh you down...

Most popular browser: Safari 96.1%, Chrome 3.9%

Most popular App Store software: Highest ranking MSFT software has Office Essentials, in 14th place. Apple has GarageBand at #1, Logic Pro at #3, FinalCut Pro at #4.

"Most poplular" (most popular part, seriously?) iPhone parts: By count, that would be Qualcomm. There are also parts by Apple, Skyworks, Lattice, Cirrus logic, Avago, NXP, TI, TDK, Dialog, Murata, Toshiba, and Samsung.

Services: For search engine that would be google, the iPhone default. For maps, Apple Maps. For messaging, Apple iMessage.
 
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Have you factored in $41 or so per month per person for your expected lifespan of all you family members yet?

Its fun try it..all that for a new apl phone yearly lets look a popular choice the 7+ 128GB

EX:

35 yo male lives to 80... i phone a year plan (of course the payments go up with new models but lets keep it easy!)

$41 x 12 = $492 x 45 years of new iphone =min $22, 140 per you (add up family like Johnny 13 and Sally 7) for leasing an iphone (device only) yearly

Try it. Its called math. Apl did figure this out they knew people wouldn't

It's actually worse than that. At 5% interest, that would be $83,083.93. Those new iPhones are costing you over $80k.

Or, more practically, Let's say you put that $41 in a retirement plan from age 35 to 65. At 65 you can start withdrawing $200/month until age 85.

So, you can have a new iPhone every year until age 65 or you can have an extra $200/month of retirement income.
 
I will be upgrading since I still have my 6+ from 2014. I held out this past upgrade because of apples half-ass attempt at the "7". I understand some people really appreciated the upgrade, but for me it wasn't worth the several hundred dollars to upgrade to something that looks and functions about the same as my 2.5 year old phone.

However, it depends on what apple brings us. If the design is significant, bezels are thinner, something new to bring to the table, then I will make the buy. If they try to pull something out of their ass with the same design (unlikely), then I will be switching to samsung.
 
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It's working on me. I'm on a 5, like the design rumours and like the battery rumours.
Very much hoping the price rumours are not correct because I wouldn't do that. The 6s and 7 were already $1500 here in Australia so I'd hate to think what the rumoured price would equate to.
 
I'll be glad too - as soon as I can charge and use my headphones at the same time without looking like there's a mutant albino octopus hanging out of my shirt pocket.

Even with a larger battery it's not going to last for 8 hours of conference calls and a 4 hour flight.
 
Oh, you mean like how I feel when I get into the office everyday and logon and see the Windows 10 interface. Yep, I know the feeling of being underwhelmed all too well.

At least you have a job and they did not waste your companies money on Macs and Ipads LOL you can always go home to your overpriced toys after work, concentrate on your job for once.
 
I get an entire day with very heavy use on my iPhone 7 Plus. Not sure how others have issues with battery life.

Most likely, if you're seeing poor battery life in an older phone it's due to the age of the battery, not overall capacity. My 6 would only function for an hour or so of use before dying, as it had just 40% of the original capacity. That could have been fixed by replacing the battery. Even the advanced batteries in smartphones these days only last about 1000 charging cycles before they begin to diminish.

But isn't it kind of sad your phone 'wears out' so quickly?
 
What about the iPhone 8SE?!

Even. Better.

An. Apple. Flip. Phone!

We'd buy two in a heartbeat!
 
But isn't it kind of sad your phone 'wears out' so quickly?

I never had a phone wear out ...not My Sony W580 , nor my Lumia 520, 635, 640 or 950.

Puzzling!

Perhaps its just $800 phones and up , they must be designed in a way to wear out?

I paid: $65 + 39 + 39 + 29 + 298= $470 for all 5

Latest 950 has Snapdragon 808, 3GB ram, 32GB, SD expansion, NFC, 20MP Carl Zeiss Pureview, 3,000mAh removable battery, dual sim...nothing broke yet. Slipped on a nice Mozo Black leather back too.

Wait a darn sec Why on Earth is Iphone $849? Why does it wear out, why the #gates ... why?
Why do people still buy them? is the real question.
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As for classic old school...
Wait... WHAT!? Nokia 3310 To RETURN in 2017
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobil...-release-date-price-features-android-mwc-2017
 
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I liked when iPhones were $200.
They never were. Carriers tricked you into thinking so. For example, Verizon would drop the baseline model iPhone to $199 (from $649) IF YOU BOUGHT ON CONTRACT. Promising to keep service with them for 2 years. IF you buy ON CONTRACT for that subsidized price of $200, they charge you an extra $20/mo for the duration of your 2 year contract.

They'd up your "line access fee" from $15 to $40 (MORE Everything Plan). Or more recently, $20 to $40 (The Verizon Plan).

So, what you really pay is $199 + ($25 * 24 months) = grand total of $799. You were paying $799 for a $649 phone.

If you are on the Verizon Plan, they up your access fee by $20 instead of $25. So $199 + ($20 * 24 months) = grand total of $680.

It was less , sure more was padded on in cell contract but still significantly below what is today as well as Apl MSRP price points are much higher in 2017 than in 2013, apl used this to confuse people with "I phone for life" leases..one confusion for another confusion

No, it was not. Look at my math in my post above. iPhones never costed $199. That was an illusion. They hid the rest of the cost (or even more than the whole cost) in an elevated "line access fee" on your bill because you went on contract. You either end up paying $799 for a $649 phone (MORE Everything Plan), or $679 for a $649 phone (The Verizon Plan).

It is better to get your phone on an installment plan, you are paying for what you're buying, and don't have any upfront cost. You get the phone for 0$ upfront (just pay tax on full price of the phone at the counter and also activation fee) and then just pay the regular full price divided up over 24 months. Way more simple, in my mind. And you don't get tricked into paying more than what the phone is worth, ever.

Plus the upgrading early sort of situation is way more simple. No randomly calculated ETF. You pay off what you have left on the phone, or at 50% you can trade in and start a new installment.
 
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They never were. Carriers tricked you into thinking so. For example, Verizon would drop the baseline model iPhone to $199 (from $649) IF YOU BOUGHT ON CONTRACT. Promising to keep service with them for 2 years. IF you buy ON CONTRACT for that subsidized price of $200, they charge you an extra $20/mo for the duration of your 2 year contract.

They'd up your "line access fee" from $15 to $40 (MORE Everything Plan). Or more recently, $20 to $40 (The Verizon Plan).

So, what you really pay is $199 + ($25 * 24 months) = grand total of $799. You were paying $799 for a $649 phone.

If you are on the Verizon Plan, they up your access fee by $20 instead of $25. So $199 + ($20 * 24 months) = grand total of $680.



No, it was not. Look at my math in my post above. iPhones never costed $199. That was an illusion. They hid the rest of the cost (or even more than the whole cost) in an elevated "line access fee" on your bill because you went on contract. You either end up paying $799 for a $649 phone (MORE Everything Plan), or $679 for a $649 phone (The Verizon Plan).

It is better to get your phone on an installment plan, you are paying for what you're buying, and don't have any upfront cost. You get the phone for 0$ upfront (just pay tax on full price of the phone at the counter and also activation fee) and then just pay the regular full price divided up over 24 months. Way more simple, in my mind. And you don't get tricked into paying more than what the phone is worth, ever.

Plus the upgrading early sort of situation is way more simple. No randomly calculated ETF. You pay off what you have left on the phone, or at 50% you can trade in and start a new installment.

So a permanent lease then? Right?
 
You never could buy an iPhone for $200, it's subsidised, you pay (the whole retail price) for it in your plan.

Well, that´s not entirely true. The very first iPhone retailed for 199 USD and users were expected to activate and set up a contract for the phone at home using iTunes, HOWEVER it was possible to entirely circumvent that process. I bought the phone off eBay at launch and and was probably one of the first people in Sweden having one. Good times.
 
How many iphones does it take to solve one of the fundamental problems.... 8.
[doublepost=1487887748][/doublepost]... also can you get more innovation than a number system... Its the 10th iphone, but its called 8'.... If you drop off the number you can be clever just nothing like 'El Capitan... ((Lame name)).
 
I never had a phone wear out ...not My Sony W580 , nor my Lumia 520, 635, 640 or 950.

Puzzling!

Perhaps its just $800 phones and up , they must be designed in a way to wear out?

I paid: $65 + 39 + 39 + 29 + 298= $470 for all 5

Latest 950 has Snapdragon 808, 3GB ram, 32GB, SD expansion, NFC, 20MP Carl Zeiss Pureview, 3,000mAh removable battery, dual sim...nothing broke yet. Slipped on a nice Mozo Black leather back too.

Wait a darn sec Why on Earth is Iphone $849? Why does it wear out, why the #gates ... why?
Why do people still buy them? is the real question.
----

As for classic old school...
Wait... WHAT!? Nokia 3310 To RETURN in 2017
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobil...-release-date-price-features-android-mwc-2017
An iPhone 7 Plus absolutely DESTROYS a Snapdragon 808 handset in terms of performance and efficiency. Look at the benchmarks for Apple A10 fusion vs Snapdragon 808.

At $849 you get 128GB storage (or 256GB if you go small iPhone 7) and you don't need the slow SD card for extra storage. You just get a huge pool of extremely fast NVME flash storage which also helps the iPhone destroy the android/windows handset in terms of general speed, snappiness, and loading times.

7 Plus has 3GB RAM as well.

NFC for payments is all for iPhone, yes.. But why would you want NFC to transfer files? Bluetooth (airdrop) and wifi wireless file transfers are way easier and less gimmicky.

Just because a camera sensor is 20MP doesn't mean it's any good. Megapixels don't matter. Just makes the photo take up more space (requiring you to use that slow SD card that fragments your whole device, saves SOME things to it and not others, causes weird issues, etc). How big and well lit are the pictures for lowlight performance? How good is the image processing? You can't easily just look at numbers for a camera and declare it as better or worse.

Yeah, having a removable battery is handy, I will give you that. However, having a removable battery causes the phone to usually have a cheaper build and removable plastic back that makes the phone feel less premium. This is a tossup of form vs function though and personal preference.

Dual SIM is cool actually. I wish I could use that on my iPhone. I've heard it can cause excess battery drain, though but I haven't personally messed with it so I can't say for sure.

If someone has other apple products, an iPhone will be MUCH nicer. It will sync everything automatically and the ecosystem is fantastic. Also the apps in the App Store tend to be higher quality. There are however less permissions for developers, sometimes limiting app functionality, unfortunately. That gives us iPhone users a more secure system, though.

With apple you also get far better support from online sources and apple stores are much better and easier to get help from.

You also get software updates immediately. No waiting for manufacturers, no waiting for carriers for months. No bloatware from the carrier, only have to worry about apple on that front. You also get updates for many more years so improved support, functionality, and security updates to the device.

But yeah, these reasons are why people pay $849 for a phone. You get what you pay for. Some people need and want that extra quality, others don't and don't understand why someone would. It all depends on the way you look at things and what you are looking for from your handset.
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So a permanent lease then? Right?
No, you can stop once you pay off the phone. When it's paid off, it's yours. You don't give it back to the carrier and get a new one. You wouldn't have that extra expense of paying for you phone after it's paid off, you'd ONLY have a low $20 access fee. You only start paying for a phone again when you want to. If you want to have a brand new phone every year, however, then yes it essentially will be a permanent lease. It's 0% interest though so you literally are just paying for the phone, not wasting away $$$ on interest.

Way back with the old nationwide plans it was way worse because they ALWAYS charged you an extra $20/mo on your access fee, regardless of being on contract (if you had a smartphone). So even after your contract was over you kept paying for an invisible phone/contract afterword and it kind of was a waste of money not to upgrade, which was stupid. They would essentially force you to pay them at least $200 every two years for a new iPhone. Now it's on your terms. Your bill drops once your contract or payment plan is done, and you can enjoy a lower bill. Or buy outright and enjoy a lower bill.
 
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Well, that´s not entirely true. The very first iPhone retailed for 199 USD and users were expected to activate and set up a contract for the phone at home using iTunes, HOWEVER it was possible to entirely circumvent that process. I bought the phone off eBay at launch and and was probably one of the first people in Sweden having one. Good times.


The 1st iPhone was $499 for 4gb and $599 for 8gb. iPhone 3g was $199 with contract.
 
I will be upgrading since I still have my 6+ from 2014. I held out this past upgrade because of apples half-ass attempt at the "7". I understand some people really appreciated the upgrade, but for me it wasn't worth the several hundred dollars to upgrade to something that looks and functions about the same as my 2.5 year old phone.

However, it depends on what apple brings us. If the design is significant, bezels are thinner, something new to bring to the table, then I will make the buy. If they try to pull something out of their ass with the same design (unlikely), then I will be switching to samsung.
I'm in the same situation. I have a 6+. I would have upgraded to the 7+, except I was too busy to do it Day One, and I decided to wait for the shipping times to go back to reasonable. Meanwhile, I got laid off from work and decided to take the opportunity to retire. I also decided to wait another year to see what Apple had to offer for a tenth anniversary model.

I'm 90% sure I will be upgrading in the fall. The chances of me going Samsung are next to nil. I'll probably start upgrading every 3 years instead of 2, so I won't mind paying a bit more.
 
I'm pretty sure that an overdue design update will persuade many to upgrade. The 7 Plus has good battery life. The 7 is okay. Is Apple realizing that an obsession with thinness isn't as important to many consumers as battery life? Let's hope so.

My iPhone SE mostly gets 2 days on the battery (I dont use it often).

My iPhone 5S was given to my wife when I bought the SE and the 4S has gone to the kids.

We need to get back to where a Phone lasted 4+ years.

It is quite likely that my next phone will be an old school feature phone and an iPod, its cheaper.

I no longer want to be on that upgrade treadmill.
 
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