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Any one else feeling a little embarrassed right now for running out and buying an unpolished and seems beta product?

Why, why, why, why do so many Apple buyers care what other people think? Honestly this is at least the 10th post I've seen lamenting "what other people are saying..." about the new device. It just confirms what a lot of non-fanboys think about Apple fanboys - they spend all this money on devices, etc just for the status and to be a part of a crowd of like-minded drones doing the same thing.

Just plain silly if you ask me.
 
Well....as someone who owned only Android phones for 3 years I can guarantee that this one blip on the radar doesn't compare to some of the buggy updates over the years on Android phones. I've had a loss of signal happen on an Android update at least twice over the years.

So yeah.....perspective.
How does what Android phones do excuse Apple's mistakes? So yeah... smells like rationalization.

And it's not one blip, given the fiasco with HealthKit right before 8.0 went live.
 
How does what Android phones do excuse Apple's mistakes? So yeah... smells like rationalization.

And it's not one blip, given the fiasco with HealthKit right before 8.0 went live.


It doesn't. Just sharing my perspective and the OP mentioned the Apple haters in his original post.
 
Why are most of these negative threads being started by people who joined this month?


For your info..I joined this month because I knew I was buying iphone 6 and want to get some info and see peoples feelings on different aspects. Is that not normal? What other agenda would I have?

How is this a "negative" thread? I pay good money for a product and expect it to be the top of the line. I have a wife with 5s, daughter with my old 5 and my son with ipod touch..so it's not like I'm a person that doesn't own these products trying to stir the pot.
 
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It doesn't. Just sharing my perspective and the OP mentioned the Apple haters in his original post.
Well, I don't hate Apple. I'm posting on a MacBook Air. I have an iPad Air and an iPhone 5 on the desk next to me, an iMac on the desk across the room, and an iPhone 6+ on a FedEx truck. Two Apple TV's and an Airport Extreme downstairs. And I care when Apple doesn't do sufficient quality control. Saying that only haters have these concerns is Grade A cult-like thinking.
 
The phone becoming an industry joke. Even my 11 yr old daughter been asking me if my phone is bending and if I have no service because of update.

Seems to me apple really messed this one up. The thin form factor going to lead to a lot of bending especially the 6+. Not well thought out. The ios8 is not stable at all and then the joke of an update they did yesterday was a disaster.

Now I get to go to work and listen to all the android boys break my chops saying I got a cheap device and now the one thing you can always say was good (iOS) is broken.

Personally only issue I've experienced personally is slow wifi from work (my home is excellent).

Any one else feeling a little embarrassed right now for running out and buying an unpolished and seems beta product?

The answer is simple... if you don't want your $750 phone to get bent, then don't put it in situations where it's going to be subject to those sorts of pressures. FWIW, I know a lot of people at work who have Android phablets, and I never see any of them try to cram them into their back pockets. A little common sense is in order here. Aluminum is a very malleable material, and it doesn't spring back into shape like plastic.

Regarding iOS 8... it seems very stable to me. I have a few apps that crash because they haven't been updated, but that's not Apple's fault. In fact, it's pretty typical with a major new OS release.

The 8.0.1 update has bricked some phones, sure. But so what? If you don't want that kind of thing to happen to you, then don't jump on the updates so quickly. If you wait a week before updating, then you'll hear the chatter of everyone else who applied the update. Honestly, it's typical among folks who do IT support for a living to not jump on updates as soon as they come out. It's just a hazard of the industry, and it affects every platform, not just iOS.
 
Not what I said..

Per reports, phone bending while in FRONT pockets..that's a major issue if true. I don't carry a purse, so that's where I put my phone.

IOS bricking peoples phones..major issue

Keep your head in the sand all you want, just be happy these issues haven't affected you.

Embarrassed is probably the wrong word..I'm not embarrassed..just feeling like a chump, jumping out day 1. I'm not a young kid or tech geek living in momma's basement. I'm a 44 yr old married guy with 2 kids, supporting my family. I was excited about new phone..told everyone how excited I was and now they all asking if my phones OK.

And for all the rest of you saying "stop worrying what others say" Give it a rest..we all care what our family and friends say..now if your anti social and have no friends, then I can understand you saying that.

I make my own decisions in life and have done very well for myself. When the people I live with and deal with on an every day basis are asking me questions every other day about the phone I told them was going to be so great..yeah I feel like a chump

Just return the phone... No one's holding a gun to your head. This is quite frankly the best piece of technology I've ever owned and many agree, but if I didn't feel that way I would just return it and move on.
 
Well, I don't hate Apple. I'm posting on a MacBook Air. I have an iPad Air and an iPhone 5 on the desk next to me, an iMac on the desk across the room, and an iPhone 6+ on a FedEx truck. Two Apple TV's and an Airport Extreme downstairs. And I care when Apple doesn't do sufficient quality control. Saying that only haters have these concerns is Grade A cult-like thinking.


I don't recall saying that only haters have these concerns. I was replying to the OP.
 
I've never bought a phone at launch until this year with iPhone 6. I've always waited to see reviews and what not after it's been released.

The phone becoming an industry joke. Even my 11 yr old daughter been asking me if my phone is bending and if I have no service because of update.

Seems to me apple really messed this one up. The thin form factor going to lead to a lot of bending especially the 6+. Not well thought out. The ios8 is not stable at all and then the joke of an update they did yesterday was a disaster.

Now I get to go to work and listen to all the android boys break my chops saying I got a cheap device and now the one thing you can always say was good (iOS) is broken.

Personally only issue I've experienced personally is slow wifi from work (my home is excellent).

Any one else feeling a little embarrassed right now for running out and buying an unpolished and seems beta product?

To answer your question, no. I don't feel embarrassed but I also haven't experienced any issues with my 6+.

My question to you is have any of these issues that you're listing effected you?
 
Based on what? The iOS is bad right now according to many reports and I'm sure you saw what happened yesterday.

If it comes out the apple skimped on the metal they used to make this phone I'm gonna be furious.

I'm praying they sure up IOS and the bending thing is just a few phones that maybe had faulty construction.

It's not really a matter of skimping out on metal. Even if they made the casing thicker, there's always a chance that it will bend. If you've noticed from a lot of the pictures, the iPhone 6/+ all bend around the volume buttons. This is 'cos that's the weakest point in the metal structure due to the cuts for the buttons. This was the case with the 5 and 5s that were reported as bending.
 
Embarrassed because I trusted apple enough to go stand in line day 1 only to get a phone that seems like a beta.

All of us that got our phones at launch basically told our friends/family that we were anxious to get the best new phone on the market and we needed it now. Like it or not this is all over the news and it makes apple look horrible and for whatever reason I feel like a jerk that couldn't wait. Like a child that ran down stairs to open presents to find a huffy instead of a mongoose (dating myself a bit I know)

Last time I buy at launch.

Good, one less person in line.

The only opinion that matters is YOURS. Does the phone do what you need it to do? My iPhone 6 and iOS8 are running fine and I love it. To hell with the rest.
 
I've never bought a phone at launch until this year with iPhone 6. I've always waited to see reviews and what not after it's been released.

The phone becoming an industry joke. Even my 11 yr old daughter been asking me if my phone is bending and if I have no service because of update.

Seems to me apple really messed this one up. The thin form factor going to lead to a lot of bending especially the 6+. Not well thought out. The ios8 is not stable at all and then the joke of an update they did yesterday was a disaster.

Now I get to go to work and listen to all the android boys break my chops saying I got a cheap device and now the one thing you can always say was good (iOS) is broken.

Personally only issue I've experienced personally is slow wifi from work (my home is excellent).

Any one else feeling a little embarrassed right now for running out and buying an unpolished and seems beta product?

Not in the least bit. Those at the top are always the biggest targets.

Also, my self esteem comes from within, and has nothing to do with what gadgets I own.
 
God help me, I'm replying to another one of these (/$;$():( threads...

Ok, OP, let's take the arguments posited here one at a time, starting with the easiest:


1. iCloud was NOT hacked. Some targeted celebrity accounts were compromised because of weak passwords and some were compromised because of easy-to-guess security questions. This isn't so tough to believe with celebrities, now, is it? After all, "mother's maiden name" isn't much of a secret for a celeb when Google and Wikipedia are around, is it? And, if you read carefully, you'll discover that a number of the leaked celeb nudes were taken by ANDROID phones, which pretty much eliminates iCloud as the source. No one "hacked" iCloud - which to this IT security guy means that no one was freely wandering around any accounts they chose, copying all the data at will. "Hacked" would be more like Target, Home Depot, TJ Maxx, and (just yesterday we heard about) Jimmy John's.


2. ANYTHING will bend or break when enough pressure is applied to it. Look at the most viral video showing the 6 Plus being bent - the guy's hands are SHAKING from all the pressure he is applying to bend it. The real question is if it will bend if it is simply placed in your pocket, and that answer is - at best - a subjective "maybe". if you place something large enough in a pocket (front or back) and sitting causes enough pressure to be exerted on it, then yes, things can break, and I don't care WHO made them. What I would like to know is how many owners or similarly sized phablets - say the Galaxy Note - keep them in their pockets in the first place. I can't recall seeing anyone doing so - most have them in portfolio cases and keep them in purses, jacket pockets, etc. That, of course, is merely my observation. I keep my phone in a horizontal belt pouch, and anyone who does the same, keeps it in a purse, or something besides their pocket are pretty much guaranteed not to have them bend. Again, this applies to every manufacturer.

Your phone is a piece of precision electronics. If you subject it to enough force/stress/torque or a sufficient enough impact, bad things are simply gonna happen. When the iPhone 6 was first announced, lots of people were asking if they would be able to put it in their pockets. Why ask that question? Because they were apparently concerned that it would impact their ability to sit. The very act if impeding your ability to sit is the definition of impacting force on the impeding object.

Now, if the iPhone - or any phone - had such an issue under normal use circumstances, I could possibly agree that it was a bad design. But I can't do that - not with the iPhone nor the Note. They are each a differently sized product that requires different care. If you had a pocket large enough to hold an iPad, would you keep it there?


3. iOS 8 does have its issues. Third-party keyboards have some minor bugs, Handoff and Continuity aren't ready to go, iCloud Drive doesn't sync pictures as fast (for me, anyway), and there are probably a few other things I'm not thinking about at the moment. However, all are minor, and the nice part of owning an Apple product is knowing that they will get fixed in short order and that fix will get to me immediately, not whenever the manufacturer or carrier deem me worthy.

Not only that, but iOS 8 brings a number of welcome features as well, and, again, I wasn't left wondering when I might be deemed worthy to get KitKat.


4. Yes, the rollout of 8.0.1 was borked. However, let's keep this in perspective too. The loss of cellular connectivity affected a relatively small number of iOS devices: iPhone 6 and 6 Plus on (mostly?) AT&T. It didn't affect iPad or earlier iPhones at all. Next, it was partially due to the carrier(s) involved not pushing the updated carrier settings that the upgrade apparently required in time.

Now, the TouchID failing... I'm at a loss here. I can't imagine that it would even be possible for even a completely incompetent QA team to miss something that obvious, but I am at a loss to explain how it could possibly be tied to some set of circumstances that only exist "in the wild". At any rate, it took me 30 minutes to completely undo it and get on with my life. Apple quickly pulled the update, to their credit, and will release 8.0.2 soon - presumably with little fanfare or notice.

Incidentally, that is the first update - EVER - that caused me a moment's worth of grief.


So, in summary, here are 4 issues that I believe:

1. Are completely overblown in scope and impact
2. Are being trumped by the media only because Apple is so watched and admired because they do, generally, make excellent products
3. Is largely hater-bait that doesn't actually impact owners of the products as much as the haters would like to believe
4. Serve only to clog up this and other forums and TV time, and to whip people up into a frenzy for no valid reason.


But then, perhaps we have become such a polarized society of haters that this is the new normal... Apple is the new Obama?

Let's also remember that the iPhone "became an industry joke" before it was first released (recall the comments of Ballmer, for example), after the App Store was debuted, when the iPhone 4 had antenna "issues" (that I never experienced, personally), and when the 5 was not a phablet. However, they had and continue to have mass appeal and phenomenal sales that every other manufacturer would kill to have - Samsung has admitted as much.

Meanwhile, I remain a happy, paying customer who maintains his perspective. This is largely due to the fact that I make up my own damned mind.

Good day.
 
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if you think about it, bendgate,
Does not effect me or anyone that I know, pass (and can we stuff the -gate suffix for every tech issue that rolls along?)
ios update fail
Doesn't effect me or anyone I know, pass
, icloud hack
Doesn't effect me or anyone I know, pass

and people still lining up to give apple their money
Yep. Because the competitors' products stink. If MSFT ever gets its act together with more developers, I might consider them. The fragmented race to the bottom mess that is the Android ecosystem, not an option.
 
Just return the phone... No one's holding a gun to your head. This is quite frankly the best piece of technology I've ever owned and many agree, but if I didn't feel that way I would just return it and move on.

My whole families ecosystem is built around Apple..so not so easy to just "return it"

That being said..I have the regular 6..I don't have a bending issue, I never updated to 8.0.1..the only issue I've had with phone is wifi at work being slow..it never was like that on IOS7 on my iphone 5. That's a minor issue to me and I'm sure that will be fixed with future updates.

I have friends that bricked their phones with update..and I have other friends that can;'t sync mucic with Itunes..

So though I haven't experienced any of the "major" issues (IOS stability/bending), I have the right to be concerned. I mean the phones only a week old..hoping there's no other stuff that comes out
 
This bending crap is ridiculous! I could break or bend almost everything in my Great Room with the same amount of force being put on the Plus to bend it.

And if your a guy wearing skinny jeans than you deserve to have your phone bent! Flame on haters.
 
ICloud Hack, HealthKit, Streaming Iphone 6 debacle, Bendgate, IOS 8.0.1, stupid U2 album, Beats Music aquisition, Apple Watch not releasing until 2015. I think some people are a little naïve to think everything is lolly dolly ok. This does make me wonder what the heck is going on at Apple right now.
 
as someone with a useless phone at the moment, and no fixes working, thanks to 8.0.1., i tend to agree. might change my opinion later. but not real happy that my phone manufacturer sent me an update that killed my cell service and they haven't fixed it yet.
 
as someone with a useless phone at the moment, and no fixes working, thanks to 8.0.1., i tend to agree. might change my opinion later. but not real happy that my phone manufacturer sent me an update that killed my cell service and they haven't fixed it yet.

So you still have a not-working phone, when the simple solution is to plug into iTunes, backup and restore (which takes all of 3 or 4 clicks).

And yes, the bending crap is ridiculous. But it's cool to hate on Apple around product launches (and if you dare defend them you're instantly called a sheep).
 
as someone with a useless phone at the moment, and no fixes working, thanks to 8.0.1., i tend to agree. might change my opinion later. but not real happy that my phone manufacturer sent me an update that killed my cell service and they haven't fixed it yet.

Rather than wait for the next update and live with a non-working phone, roll it back to 8.0. There are numerous instructions on how to do so, all over the internet (and in this forum).
 
as someone with a useless phone at the moment, and no fixes working, thanks to 8.0.1., i tend to agree. might change my opinion later. but not real happy that my phone manufacturer sent me an update that killed my cell service and they haven't fixed it yet.

Have you missed every Apple focused web site, including this one, offering a proven way to restore your phone to 8.0 and fix it? Did you even call Apple, who would have given you the same instructions?
 
I LOVE my new iPhone 6+, it is an amazing piece of technology.
And I don't care what other people say. And of course I'm not sitting on a 1000$ device!
 
So though I haven't experienced any of the "major" issues (IOS stability/bending), I have the right to be concerned. I mean the phones only a week old..hoping there's no other stuff that comes out

Spending time worrying about something that may never happen is not the way to live a peaceful life. You aren't hiding under your bed, afraid that if you get into a car you'll have an accident, are you?

Seriously, if you aren't having problems, then just go about your business and be glad.
 
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