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iPhone Details from AT&T's Sales Training Workbook

irkedpenguin said:
Two things, one, why do we assume that a rounded square is a camera, and second, I find it hard to believe that Apple, the company that prides its self on design, would put a camera at the bottom of the front of the phone. If there was a second camera, it would make a lot more sense to put it at the top of the front screen, like all the nokias that have 2 cameras.
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(1) because it is quite a similar size/shape as the iSight cameras embedded in many other Apple products so one can imagine that the R&D is already bought and paid for and very well understood.

(2) If you turn the thing on the side to watch video, then the camera isn't on the bottom anymore. Or someone else mentioned turning it upside down to use iChat. Or sideways the other way. Doesn't seem like much of a reach at all.

Other comments have indicated something about fingerprints, but really, I don't know that this is a big problem. Sure, for a Nikon D80 fingerprints are bad, but for a VGA-res camera, chances are you'd wipe it with your finger to clean it anyway and it wouldn't make a big difference. Try it on an iMac iSight... The quality isn't sufficiently high to matter.
 
Aperture said:
This has been posted and been shut down. I'm just mirroring what others have said.. First, do you really think Apple would put a camera where you'd be touching constantly and smudging it up? Also, they would have had to used 3g for some type of iChat video app as opposed to EDGE.
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I don't know if I'd agree with the "shut down" sentiment... I posted some comments along these lines early this morning and nothing I've read since (or prior) has suggested to me that this isn't a very distinct possibility.

It's not a high enough res camera for smudges to make a difference any more so than that would impede using the rest of the phone. If your digits are covered with peanut butter, well, wiping the phone will clean the camera just as much as the rest of the display. Not a big deal.

And this device has WiFi as well, certainly a candidate for iChat use, and iChat doesn't have to always use video of course either.

So I'm still hoping... Nobody has posted anything to convince me otherwise. Of course, living in Canada means that I won't likely get to benefit from any of this for quite sometime anyway...
 
FreeState said:
First all of this is already answered if you read the thread... but anyway...

1) The pages that are left out are blank and or training pages that do not specify any new information (they were left out to save bandwidth)
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All the pages are in the image directory if you want to explore.

they just have no interesting information.

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GNUMatrix said:
(2) If you turn the thing on the side to watch video, then the camera isn't on the bottom anymore. Or someone else mentioned turning it upside down to use iChat. Or sideways the other way. Doesn't seem like much of a reach at all.
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I dunno, not sure if I can see that happening. It would be really neat if it were a camera, but I'm not expecting anything.
 
It seems unlikely that Apple would withhold such an impressive feature as dual camera/iSight.

On another front, someone mentioned that AIM Express runs on Java. Infact, it opens in a pop-up now. Older versions used to use Java. Therefore, AIM Express is still a viable ption to use on the iPhone.
 
CoreWeb said:
The phone is definitely still appealing.

I can buy a whistle for probably under a dollar. It will probably make a very good whistling sound. However, my stereo system (not a top-of-the-line one or anything) may not be able to make that sound all too well. (It sometimes has problems with high-pitched sounds.)

Does that mean I should forego the stereo system? :D
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Your argument requires the assumption that the iPhone is not a top of the line phone, which most (I believe) would agree that it is top of the line.

Nevertheless, I get what you're saying. I'm just in LSAT-studying mode.
 
iSight in home button

I remember a nice desktop image someone at an Apple tech talk had. It pictures an iPhone protoype on a desk. I asked the guy to e-mail it to me as I couldn't find it by googling. It shows the iPhone under an angle that cannot be seen from official pictures. The home button does kinda have the same shape as the iSight camera... imagine the valley between the button and the case lighting up green when the camera is in use.

Also, the headphones are plugged in on the top of the device, like full size iPods. if you had to hold the phone upside down for video chats, the headphone cable would be at the bottom, so there wouldn't be a dangling cord on the captured video. Also your hands wouldn't cover the lens when you touch the screen if the camera it on top. To end the call, you could just press the home button. Your chat partner would the briefly see your finger at the end.
Of course, this is wild speculation, but I think it would be more than cool to have working video chat on a phone.

Here's the original picture -> http://tinyurl.com/2fk2et

and here's a closeup on the home button:
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Note: the closeup it a 4x zoom of the original picture, with no smoothing whatsoever applied. The image format of the closeup is PNG to avoid additional compression artifacts.
 
This could be fake, it's easy to knock up official looking documents these days-maybe based on similar manuals. Just take the various icons and add some blurb below it.

However the closer this gets to the launch, more people will be getting involved and the easier it is for leaks to occur.

Even if the manuals are authentic they could still be slective with the truth and there could be more to come, Apple will know that this could happen and be holding stuff back- I'm expecting smething on the maps being linked to the cell so it knows where you are-could be done without GPS. On my Nokia 6280 I can display Cell Info (eg Sydney) and this has been done on all the phones Iv'e had in the last 3 or so years I reckon.

With that Calamari add apple are hinting at something like this , Iv'e seen some articles (even in the Sydney Morning Herald I think) commenting on that add saying the iphone IS going to have some form of gps which is what the ad implies. eg see this

http://cormacmoylan.com/blog/apple-macs/iphone-ad-shows-off-its-gps-and-map-functionality.eire

If it doesn't apple could be severely critisised and get a media beating (they will LOVE this thing to fail) as the ad implies it does- people may be dissapointed as they will focus on this, not the other great features.
 
Confidential!

This manual is confidential and only for at&t employees. Whoever showed this to the customer who scanned it in is in big trouble! I'm sure they can track the store # through the photos.
 
I'm thinking that in the tidal wave of 3rd party accessories, someone will come up with a GPS solution. It could be an all in one kit. Car cradle with cigarette lighter power jack; GPS receiver could be built into the cradle or they can make some sort of attachment, in the form factor of an iTrip, that connects to the dock port and is fed the GPS info from some small GPS receiver that goes on the trunk of the car. Or ****, the GPS receiver can just be in the same form factor as an iTrip. I don't know, you guys get the idea.

Would it be possible that if Apple does release a SDK, that they could just reject some type of port of Adium?
 
thejedipunk said:
I'm thinking that in the tidal wave of 3rd party accessories, someone will come up with a GPS solution. It could be an all in one kit. Car cradle with cigarette lighter power jack; GPS receiver could be built into the cradle or they can make some sort of attachment, in the form factor of an iTrip, that connects to the dock port and is fed the GPS info from some small GPS receiver that goes on the trunk of the car. Or ****, the GPS receiver can just be in the same form factor as an iTrip. I don't know, you guys get the idea.
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...But it would have to work with the Google Maps app for it to be useful, and that is controled solely by Google and Apple.
 
Slayerboym88 said:
No MMS or IM isn't a big deal. AIM.com has AIM Express which is your full IM list and since Safari has tabs, there's almost no problem whatsoever. I use Aim Express at work all the time since I don't want to install it and it works fine. I think that no MMS people can get used to.
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So I wonder what would happen if you went to aim.com and tried downloading and installing AIM for Mac... or if you uploaded iChat to a server and tried downloading it using your iphone... would it just give you an error message?

(Sorry, this is probably a stupid question... just curious) :)
 
EricNau said:
...But it would have to work with the Google Maps app for it to be useful, and that is controled solely by Google and Apple.
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Isn't this where Bluetooth is suppose to be stepping in? As a potential replacement for the average PDA (think perhaps of Palm III-era kinds of devices) one of the things that I used them for a lot was as a generic data collection device.

Of course, the first hurdle is to get custom apps. Immediately after that will be a need to get data into the device via means other than multitouch or keyboard entry, even if you can do 50 WPM on the multitouch keyboard . I'm hoping that this kind of thing will be enabled by way of Bluetooth.

Imagine pairing your third-party Bluetooth-enabled GPS so that the iPhone always knows where it is. Or a Bluetooth-enabled printer so you can print out your 2MP photos, contact lists, etc. Or a Bluetooth-enabled RFID scanner or barcode scanner so you can collect info on pallet tags or whatever other widgets you interact with on a regular basis. All without wires and with minimal setup, and all while your iPhone is within the relative safety of your coat pocket.

Some of these things can be accomplished by WiFi (like printing, potentially) but Bluetooth seems to be well positioned to take up this role in a big way.
 
After further invesigation, the button does indeed look like a lot (if not exactly) like the iSight on my Macbook. Because I myself argued against this, I opened Photo Booth and for about 10 minutes I tried to smudge the iSight and I simply can't do it. It produces the same image quality/clearness even after I tried "smudging" it. I know it is unlikely but you have to admit it does look plausible?
 
Aperture said:
After further invesigation, the button does indeed look like a lot (if not exactly) like the iSight on my Macbook. Because I myself argued against this, I opened Photo Booth and for about 10 minutes I tried to smudge the iSight and I simply can't do it. It produces the same image quality/clearness even after I tried "smudging" it. I know it is unlikely but you have to admit it does look plausible?
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I'll believe it when I hear it...from APPLE. To me, saying that it has a 2nd camera just sounds to fanboy hopful that will be mocked and criticized later. If I am wrong, that I freely admit in tenative advance that I was wrong; but, naturally, I don't think I am.
 
talktozachary said:
Airlines don't allow cellphone use on planes because of crowd-control purposes. They just keep up with the "radio communication interference" lie to instill the fear of death into passengers in order to get those phones off.

If they ask you to put your iPhone away during "Pirates" just ask how one is supposed to dial without "keys fixed in plastic."
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The sheer stupidity, ignorance and selfishness of people never fail to amaze. As a pilot and engineer, I can tell you that indeed you could be causing immense troubles. For example, read some of these excerpts from pilot reports:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0UBT/is_23_13/ai_54827314

This is the tip of the iceberg. I've even seen a report of a large airliner almost crashing on an auto-landing in fog, because some idiot decided she had the right to call her friends before they got on the ground.

The next time you see anyone power up something electronic when near the ground, just pop them one.
 
kdarling said:
The sheer stupidity, ignorance and selfishness of people never fail to amaze. As a pilot and engineer, I can tell you that indeed you could be causing immense troubles. For example, read some of these excerpts from pilot reports:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0UBT/is_23_13/ai_54827314

This is the tip of the iceberg. I've even seen a report of a large airliner almost crashing on an auto-landing in fog, because some idiot decided she had the right to call her friends before they got on the ground.

The next time you see anyone power up something electronic when near the ground, just pop them one.
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Do you have more recent reports though? 1998 would still be back in the analog generation of cell phones. Now that things are digital, wouldn't much of that change? As well, airline technology is sure to have been updated also. I find it highly unlikely that there would be no upgrades in technology in nine years, especially with such progress and a 'need' for differences in communnication methods.

I fully understand that airlines need peoples attention and quite frankly, its rude and annoying to listen to someone on their cell phone for any length of time. Also, this doesn't really illustrate why NONTRANSMITTING devices should also be banned.
 
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