iPhone XS Max iPhone Foldable

[EM2013]

Just looks like a clunky phone/clunky tablet. Just asking to be broke and I can only imagine how much it’ll cost to fix.

I’ll definitely pass.
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You like to read selectively it seems. I've just showed you a link with a patent file from Apple. That's a fact instead of your no evidence claim where you really think that a micro-led smartphone is going to get released before a foldable one. That's what's you call no evidence without any kind of facts that's backs those assumptions.

Since you love to argue for no reason.

 

[AlexJoda]

No one implied that a foldable phone from Apple should be neglected, if you read my first post in the thread, I already acknowledged a foldable iPhone has its appeal. So I’m not sure why you’re refuting anything about Apple not trying to experiment with a foldable phone.

Regardless, what do we know so far? A $2000 device is going to be a very niche demographic that will be unobtainable by most for that price point. Either way, Apple doesn’t have the necessary suppliers even aligned for something like this yet, let alone micro LED will likely debut first before A foldable iPhone will.

The actual price point from Samsung is not that much important because it is the price for a new technology and the few that wants to be the first to try this prototype. It is much more interesting what such a device will cost in 2-3 years when this might become a mass market. At that time Apple might bring a much more refined product to the market as they always do....

 

[chasonstone]

I would buy this. I’m not sure why everyone is so cynical about folding phones. I get maybe the tech isn’t perfect yet, and having reservations because of this. But you cannot deny the appeal of a phone and tablet in one device. Especially given the trend towards bigger displays in general.

People want bigger displays, foldables are a solution to the “how much is pocketable?” problem.

 

[AlexJoda]

I would buy this. I’m not sure why everyone is so cynical about folding phones. I get maybe the tech isn’t perfect yet, and having reservations because of this. But you cannot deny the appeal of a phone and tablet in one device. Especially given the trend towards bigger displays in general.

People want bigger displays, foldables are a solution to the “how much is pocketable?” problem.

I agree with this but a phone that unfolds to a 7.x tablet needs a big battery and will always be relatively thick and heavy when folded. That will limit it’s pocketability....

 

[dcpmark]

I would buy this. I’m not sure why everyone is so cynical about folding phones. I get maybe the tech isn’t perfect yet, and having reservations because of this. But you cannot deny the appeal of a phone and tablet in one device. Especially given the trend towards bigger displays in general.

People want bigger displays, foldables are a solution to the “how much is pocketable?” problem.

Either foldables or rollables will be the solution, yeah. I'm guessing it's mainly a cost issue....while I suspect that a small number won't like the some aspect of the design, and prefer an olde tyme budget candy bar phone, most people here would love the latest and greatest iDevice there is. The problem is that they will never be able to afford a $2k or more phone, so might as well take a negative stance towards the concept. JMHO.

 

[s15119]

Nope. I had a flip phone. It was fun. The past was the past. Moving on.
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If you'd read my post it says I'm responding on your assumptions. And that's true when you'd start a sentence with "just because". Also if you really think a consumer Micro-led smartphone would get released before a foldable phone you really don't know much about the display market. Micro-led is years away for consumers on the tv-market let alone they could create a smartphone with micro-led pixels on at least 1080P resolution.

You asked for people's opinions. Then you want to argue with anyone who give that opinion. Have a nice life.

 

[44267547]

The actual price point from Samsung is not that much important because it is the price for a new technology and the few that wants to be the first to try this prototype..

A $2000 price tag is generally unattractive to the consumer for a foldable Smart phone. Unless you’re someone that’s truly into tech and you want to be one the first to have something that’s new like this, then maybe the price is worth it to those individuals, but for the majority, that price point really isn’t feasible, especially given even $1000 smart phone isn’t all that attractive either.

It is much more interesting what such a device will cost in 2-3 years when this might become a mass market. At that time Apple might bring a much more refined product to the market as they always do....

I agree, I would allow this technology to refine and work out any type of imperfections that likely will experience from the beginning, and as this technology matures, I could see it being more widespread in the future with other manufacturers releasing their own versions. Apple one day might, but they usually always are later than early when it comes to new products like this.

 

[now i see it]

It's a folding iPad not iPhone. Big difference.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Not interested in a foldable phone.

 

[Mr.Blacky]

No


I know this is a hypothetical question, but where would apple get the display technology. I don't think Samsung is sharing this quite yet.

Huh? Apple is already using the concept of a folding display in its iPhones.

 

[Ralfi]

First reaction is that it folds the wrong way.
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Hypothetically speaking...Take the iPhone X. Fold it in half horizontally.

It would need to fold out twice to have an aspect ratio-friendly resolution, otherwise it’d be too square, & that ain’t hip imo.

 

[deuxani]

The next one is already on its way for MWC.

The Huawei already looks a lot better than Samsung's implementation, even though the screen would scratch a lot easier. This is all just 1st gen, just imagine the possibilities of a 3rd or 4th gen with updated technologies.

Even though I wouldn't buy a 1st gen like the Fold or Mate X, these devices are making the smartphone market exciting again. I like it a lot and I'm curious to see the best implementation we will eventually settle on.

 

[44267547]

The Huawei already looks a lot better than Samsung's implementation, even though the screen would scratch a lot easier.

Why would the display scratch ‘easier’ over Samsung’s foldable? Also, why does it look better? Not dissing Huawei’s foldable, but in terms of hardware, Samsung usually is the latter, but I haven’t experienced Samsung’s foldable yet to make any pre-determinations.

 

[deuxani]

Why would the display scratch ‘easier’ over Samsung’s foldable? Also, why does it look better? Not dissing Huawei’s foldable, but in terms of hardware, Samsung usually is the latter, but I haven’t experienced Samsung’s foldable yet to make any pre-determinations.

These foldable screens don't have Gorilla Glass as glass can't fold 180 degrees, it's softer plastic and much more prone to scratches. On the Fold the foldable screen is on the inside, so most of the time protected, while the Mate X is on the outside and always exposed.

Obviously I don't know the real world implications, but I thought it was a fair assumption Just think about sliding it in and out of your pocket multiple times per day. I already see so many micro scratches on my iPhone X, while my phone is always in an empty clean pocket.

About the looks, to me the Huawei looks more futuristic and cleaner in design as it has tiny bezels and no notch. The outside screen of the Fold just looks really ugly (I understand why they did it, but it's still not appealing) and the inside screen to me is ruined by the corner notch.

 

[0906742]

Obviously foldable phone is the next big innovation since sliced bread and touchscreen phones and likely every manufacturer who's going to keep selling phones in the future are joining. Too bad Samsung/Android released it first, it can make very hard times for Apple/IOS. This is a real game changer once again and we have seen these in the past so many times.

I don't think price is an issue at all, brand new tech for 2K. Some peoples are already paying 1.5K for XS MAX with larger memory and anyone buying a phone costing that much obviously does not care what it costs as long as it is the most expensive and advanced as money can buy. Since that was a starting price for a new tech, we'll see it getting cheaper at least in Android world very soon, Apple of course can start easily with 3K prices and they sell.

Hopefully Apple can bring something more nice looking and sized phone as that Samsung really looks clunky. Also I'm not sure about durability of the foldable screen if the surface is plastic. Or is it possibly two glass screens joined together with some sort of foldable plastic hinge or similar? It is hard to tell for sure from the photos I have seen so far.

My dream machine with foldable screen would be something with pocketable size, preferably like 5s. The screen would be still big enough. Anyway I think times of a huge sized phones are over soon because folding allows big screens without impossibly huge size what most phones today tend to be.

 

[AustinIllini]

Jobs is long gone, and it’s been a while since Apple has done anything Jobs-esque.

Apple Watch and AirPods are two of the most Jobs type products

 

[dcpmark]

Apple Watch and AirPods are two of the most Jobs type products

The Apple Watch is spectacular innovation, and keeps getting better, I’ll give you that. But there is absolutely nothing innovative about AirPods..... as a long-time Bragi user they were late to the game, they don’t really do much that others don’t do, they don’t fit some people, and they look ridiculous, IMHO.

 

[puma1552]

Like I said, where would apple get the displays they need. Samsung will want to keep this to themselves for a period of time, as its a game changing technology.

I doubt that.

Samsung already released it and can therefore claim first to market. After that, they aren't going to say no to millions and millions in lucrative business contracts, that's not how business works even amongst competitors. Apple and Samsung are well in bed together and have been forever.

If Apple orders a bunch of folding displays tomorrow, Samsung will be happy to supply them I'm sure.

 

[I7guy]

The Apple Watch is spectacular innovation, and keeps getting better, I’ll give you that. But there is absolutely nothing innovative about AirPods..... as a long-time Bragi user they were late to the game, they don’t really do much that others don’t do, they don’t fit some people, and they look ridiculous, IMHO.

For a late to the game, ridiculous looking product, airpods sure seem to sell well. Bragi EarPods are innovative, AirPods are innovative; your personal definition of innovation not withstanding.

What apple does with a foldable phone we will find out, they are not going to slap a flexible oled panel in a device and call it a day.

 

[44267547]

I doubt that.

Samsung already released it and can therefore claim first to market. After that, they aren't going to say no to millions and millions in lucrative business contracts, that's not how business works even amongst competitors. Apple and Samsung are well in bed together and have been forever.

If Apple orders a bunch of folding displays tomorrow, Samsung will be happy to supply them I'm sure.

Sure, Apple does purchase supply components from Samsung, such as OLED panels, processors, etc. however you’re not including Apple doesn't adopt everything that Samsung does either. Think about it for a minute, Samsung is usually the first for a lot of things with technological advances, but there are quite a few hardware features/capabilities that Apple has _never_ participated in.

Prime Example:

When Samsung introduced the ‘Galaxy S6 edge’, which would display information along side the of display on the phone, everyone thought that was one of the most trendiest things, and was blaming Apple for not being ‘innovative’ enough we’re not developing something similar, and yet, that technology as interesting as it was, never flourished, nor did Apple waste their time with it. Point is, just because Samsung releases some new hardware feature, (which does hold its own appeal), definitely doesn’t mean Apple will ever release something countering them, when their focus obviously is beyond just foldable smartphones, even if they have a patent.

 

[dazz87]

Will be a different story when apple release one...... typical reaction from here

 

[Achillias]

@Relentless Power

You're the one who is making ad hominem responses don't try to spin it around. Many times I've told you exactly that your arguments don't hold any kind of factual grounds. You're simply denying your own arguments when someone is asking you for sources. Which you simply ignore because you can't provide them. It's all fictional. And that's the current state of your responses.

Nobody is denying that micro-led will be the future. That's not even the subject. The subject was that you somehow think that micro-led is closer in the development process of becoming the next tech before even the foldable devices (even from Apple) are going to get released. Which is again simply not true. There are no sources that's saying otherwise. Even for the television market it will take years before you could buy one as an early (customer) adapter. Let alone the smartphone market. Where it's even more difficult to implement Micro-led on such small panels, with a decent resolution. Also the fact that Apple bought a company which was working on Micro-led doesn't say much.

Are you really that naive to think that just one small company with small resources is able to do what others can't (even when Apple took them over, Apple who doesn't make their own panels) currently and are even going to be the first to implement it. It's called imagination. Same for your comment about OLED where you pretend that someone has said that micro-led doesn't have an advantage. Don't use words that nobody have said. Same for your imaginary arguments that someone have said it's not a possibility.

The thing with you is that you don't seems to read certain arguments in the right context. Well anyway there is no point in arguing with someone that doesn't want to read the right context. So yes it's better to just keep it like that.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Sure, Apple does purchase supply components from Samsung, such as OLED panels, processors, etc. however you’re not including Apple doesn't adopt everything that Samsung does either. Think about it for a minute, Samsung is usually the first for a lot of things with technological advances, but there are quite a few hardware features/capabilities that Apple has _never_ participated in.

Prime Example:

When Samsung introduced the ‘Galaxy S6 edge’, which would display information along side the of display on the phone, everyone thought that was one of the most trendiest things, and was blaming Apple for not being ‘innovative’ enough we’re not developing something similar, and yet, that technology as interesting as it was, never flourished, nor did Apple waste their time with it. Point is, just because Samsung releases some new hardware feature, (which does hold its own appeal), definitely doesn’t mean Apple will ever release something countering them, when their focus obviously is beyond just foldable smartphones, even if they have a patent.

Actually your story is a little off.

The edge started with the Note 4 Edge, which the Edge portion was treated like an actual second screen and was only on the right side. That became more of a niche, but a semi popular niche. Then Samsung came out with the S6 Edge, which the edge was much less pronounced, on both sides, and was part of the main display. The S6 Edge design was highly praised. Which is why even today, Samsung hasn't abandon it, but evolved the edges to be less pronounced.

Samsung moved too quickly, to see if the Note 4 Edge design would stick. Which makes me to believe it was just a "look what I can do" design to hint users what's to come.

 

[44267547]

The edge started with the Note 4 Edge.

The example I provided was geared towards the Galaxy series, _not_ the Note. The S6 edge was the first to debut the edge like design in the Galaxy line-up , hence the example chosen. The Note is not mutually exclusive in this specific example.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

The example I provided was geared towards the Galaxy series, _not_ the Note. The S6 edge was the first to debut the edge like design in the Galaxy line-up , hence the example chosen. The Note is not mutually exclusive in this specific example.

But you stated "which would display information along side the of display on the phone". Which was with the Note 4 Edge.

But if you're talking about the Edge Panels which started with the S6 Edge, that was not a failure at all, and is still implemented today.