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Looks like Motorola is on board with foldable phones:

https://www.engadget.com/2019/02/27/motorola-confirms-its-foldable-phone-is-coming/

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I heard about this. The Motorola Razr was one of the most popular phones back around 2003/2004, I owned actually two of them at the time. I would love to have hands-on with this to see how they implemented everything. But this is more of a ‘flip style’ phone then it is ‘folding’, but in terms of execution, I still like the concept and it changes things from what were used to seeing every day. I’m all for it, even if other smart phone manufacturers don’t adopt this design.
 
Interesting.... I'm more interested in the concept of a hand-holdable phone which can have its screen double in size to mini-tablet.
Same, but I want my one-hand-friendly phone to triple its size (dual hinge). (Either an XS or at most an XR sized tri-screen device).
 
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If the product functions both as an iPhone and a tablet I’m sure there are many people that will pay the price. Movie Watchers, Gamers, and even the average user will have a big advantage. And for those that feel it’s not worth the money there’s always the regular iPhone. In other words Something for Everyone.
 
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If the product functions both as an iPhone and a tablet I’m sure there are many people that will pay the price. Movie Watchers, Gamers, and even the average user will have a big advantage. And for those that feel it’s not worth the money there’s always the regular iPhone. In other words Something for Everyone.
Such logic.

But online haters need their frustrations heard...
 
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If the product functions both as an iPhone and a tablet I’m sure there are many people that will pay the price. Movie Watchers, Gamers, and even the average user will have a big advantage. And for those that feel it’s not worth the money there’s always the regular iPhone. In other words Something for Everyone.

There is a market for a foldable display for the consumer, the problem right now, is not necessarily the technology has not matured enough, (because it will over the course of time as it improves), it’s the price point. A $2000 foldable display is the cost prohibitive for the average consumer, but, I expect those prices to mature and reduce as time goes on. But yes, the ability to be able to enlarge and truncate a device when on demand, that alone is worth the initiative to consider a foldable display assuming the quality control is there.
 
not only the design looks awful but why an earth anyone would like to fold a device which is a same size as a phone already? ”we are folding is only because we can”?

From the article, it would seem that Motorola is interested in making phones that fold into smaller units, not tablets that fold into phones. The flip phone prototype seems to fold down into something much smaller than anything you can puchase today, and for some people that’s a good thing.
 
I would get a folding iPhone but for no more then £700ish (what an iPhone is worth, folding or flipping or whatever)

The current folding options are years away from ever being useful
 
Having two screens is overkill. I like what Huawei did and that's what a typical foldable phone should look like. One display that transforms into another.
 
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If the product functions both as an iPhone and a tablet I’m sure there are many people that will pay the price. Movie Watchers, Gamers, and even the average user will have a big advantage. And for those that feel it’s not worth the money there’s always the regular iPhone. In other words Something for Everyone.
That is until foldable phones become mainstream and so profitable that companies decide to phase out non-folding phones—like they did with small phones...:eek:
Half joking. Folding phones seem to be significantly more expensive to manufacture, so I think companies aren’t going to be able to price them for both mainstream adoption AND relatively large profit, at least for the foreseeable future.

From the article, it would seem that Motorola is interested in making phones that fold into smaller units, not tablets that fold into phones. The flip phone prototype seems to fold down into something much smaller than anything you can puchase today, and for some people that’s a good thing.
I might be one of those people. Again, I don’t see a need for my phone to fold since I prefer small phones—but this Motorola is potentially the only device so far that would make me consider using a bigger screen phone. But I can’t even really consider it until we know the measurements, particularly how thin they‘ll be able to make this. But if they make it very thin, that also makes me question battery life.

Of course the main question that this and all folding phones pose is: ”do you really want your phone to double/triple its thickness while in your pocket?“—which I think is what that other user was getting at. For people who want to carry around their tablet but can’t because it doesn’t fit in their pockets, the answer is an easy yes. But for those who don’t, I think the answer depends on the measurements of the phone. Say thickness of a phone is the z axis, of course you want z to be as thin as possible, especially in your pocket. But as a device’s x and y axis become bigger, it starts to become more noticeable in your pocket and impede range of movement, and at that point it’s better to fold it in half and double z—on the condition that double z is thin enough. It’s pretty much the exact same reasoning for old school flip phones. And just like with those, the other advantage is that it significantly helps protect the phone from damage (and accidental presses, though that isn’t really an issue these days)—because not only does it protect the screen (if folded inward), but the folded compact form factor is theoretically physically stronger, therefore more durable against impacts. So again, all that to say, it depends how thin it is, but if it’s thin enough with somehow still good battery life (and if the folding mechanism is durable enough), this Motorola device would serve people who enjoy the bigger phablet screen but who want a more pocketable device, that is also better protected. But that’s a lot of ifs.

I have to say though, if Motorola follows through with this, whether or not it’s a success, I’d commend them for sticking to their vision rather than following after other companies. Unless of course it turns out to be just absolute crap.

Side thought- I think “phone” and ”tablet” are going to soon become ineffective terms in the context of foldable phones(/tablets). Phablets blurred the boundary of size but everyone could always agree that big phones were still phones at the very least because they made phone calls (because even everyone’s hand/pocket sizes and tolerances were different). Folding tablet/phones take away that distinction. In this context the two terms are used only for size categorization. But almost inevitably manufacturers will fill in the gaps and start producing all sorts of sizes. eg. What is a 6.9” screen (whether folded or unfolded) considered? 7”? 7.1”? Unless we all very arbitrarily agree that one specific number is the cutoff for phone or tablet sizes, the terms will not have much meaning.
So I think soon, and maybe even now, we may have to ditch those terms and talk only in actual units of measurement.
 
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Even though Samsung announced they are selling the foldable screens. It will be a few years before Apple is ready to unveil a foldable iPhone. Unfortunately
Apple while wanting to get things right has become very slow in innovating.
 
When the 5th generation foldable iPhone comes out I’ll be a maybe.

I’m not sure $3000 is worth it for a phone and a tablet, let alone a bad experience
 
I think the question I have is, why would ‘we’ want a foldable smartphone?

In a way, we sort of been there done that, with the Nokia Communicator. Remember that device?
 
I think the question I have is, why would ‘we’ want a foldable smartphone?

My question for a rebuttle would be why would we not want a foldable smart phone? I think introducing new tech has its advantages with a specific product like this, because it allows you to enlarge the device when you want to have more content on viewing, and then truncate it when you want perhaps to have more ‘one-handed’ operability. I see the advantage, maybe others don’t.
 
My question for a rebuttle would be why would we not want a foldable smart phone? I think introducing new tech has its advantages with a specific product like this, because it allows you to enlarge the device when you want to have more content on viewing, and then truncate it when you want perhaps to have more ‘one-handed’ operability. I see the advantage, maybe others don’t.

Certainly no dispute there. Alas, as I stated, I feel we’ve sort of already been there, and done that...
 
I think the question I have is, why would ‘we’ want a foldable smartphone?

In a way, we sort of been there done that, with the Nokia Communicator. Remember that device?

My question for a rebuttle would be why would we not want a foldable smart phone? I think introducing new tech has its advantages with a specific product like this, because it allows you to enlarge the device when you want to have more content on viewing, and then truncate it when you want perhaps to have more ‘one-handed’ operability. I see the advantage, maybe others don’t.

These folding phones should be perfect to use in (unfolded) tablet mode, no compromises. The compromise will be in (folded) phone mode, since it will be twice as thick than if it was a normal phone. For some, the thickness will be worth it; for others, it won’t. Then there’s the price, which is a whole other issue.
 
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My question for a rebuttle would be why would we not want a foldable smart phone? I think introducing new tech has its advantages with a specific product like this, because it allows you to enlarge the device when you want to have more content on viewing, and then truncate it when you want perhaps to have more ‘one-handed’ operability. I see the advantage, maybe others don’t.
Price. Compromises in both cell phone and tablet functionality. Battery considerations. Concerns in terms of durability. There are a lot of reason to not want a folding phone.

This is where Apple gets ahead. They justify a product's existence before they release it.
 
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Price. Compromises in both cell phone and tablet functionality. Battery considerations. Concerns in terms of durability. There are a lot of reason to not want a folding phone

So, product maturity and refinement through progression, That’s exactly what technology is, is it not? When something starts new, it may not always be exactly ‘perfect’ in terms of reliability/durability until it’s tested by the masses to see how the product survives in all types of environments and usage , and any imperfections overtime have to be tweaked and improved. There are plenty of counter reasons to your own to want a folding phone, for those who actually understand and see the convenience of this technology for their usage.

This is where Apple gets ahead. They justify a product's existence before they release it.

This has been Apples method of operation for quite some time. They usually are never the first to release a new product on the market before the competition does, but they make the product more personable and unique, just as they did with the Apple Watch, AirPods, ect.
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Then there’s the price, which is a whole other issue.

Definitely. And the price will be exorbitant for quite some time, and Apples MSRP clearly will be something very similar to these price(s), if not higher _if_ they do release a folding iPhone. It kind of reminds me when LG released their first OLED TV, it was priced extremely high, where it was really out of reach for most consumers, but as that technology continue to progress and mature, and supply components were becoming more widespread, those prices slowly reduced, but that takes time. The question is, can the consumer justify the price point for what the technology is offering?
 
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I would prefer an iPhone that bends to fit around my wrist. It'd be as functional as an Apple Watch when worn then flex back straight to use as a smartphone.
I'm sure Apple would come up with an aesthetically pleasing design as it would be quite large for a watch but I like the idea of my phone there handy on my wrist.
Would be a great way to reply to messages, etc. whilst wearing.

Probs will never happen but I believe that's the best way a flexible screen on a phone could used.
 
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