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iPhone Launched in the UK on O2 Network

I think the iphone will do well in the UK. I know from dealng with them that they have a lot of money up there. London is now the worlds financial centre and its awash with money. I was stunned when I went to London this year, and kept seeing big BMW's, Mercedes, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, honestly it was very eye opening. I was told that the BMW three series is the 4th highest selling car in the UK so they will have lots of spare cash for this phone. The people I know in the UK like buying the latest gizmo, the UK was made for apple I reckon. Money's not everything don't get me wrong just my observations.
 
NewMacGirl said:
I think the iphone will do well in the UK. I know from dealng with them that they have a lot of money up there. London is now the worlds financial centre and its awash with money. I was stunned when I went to London this year, and kept seeing big BMW's, Mercedes, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, honestly it was very eye opening. I was told that the BMW three series is the 4th highest selling car in the UK so they will have lots of spare cash for this phone. The people I know in the UK like buying the latest gizmo, the UK was made for apple I reckon. Money's not everything don't get me wrong just my observations.
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Well, it costs me £210 a month just to use the Tube!
 
Yes the UK is EXPENSIVE.

Sorry off topic but I was paying same in pounds as I do in Australian dollars.
 
can anyone make sence of the german press confrence regarding googles bad translating?

is it basically the same as everwhare?
 
NewMacGirl said:
I think the iphone will do well in the UK. I know from dealng with them that they have a lot of money up there. London is now the worlds financial centre and its awash with money. I was stunned when I went to London this year, and kept seeing big BMW's, Mercedes, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, honestly it was very eye opening. I was told that the BMW three series is the 4th highest selling car in the UK so they will have lots of spare cash for this phone. The people I know in the UK like buying the latest gizmo, the UK was made for apple I reckon. Money's not everything don't get me wrong just my observations.
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London isn't the UK :rolleyes:
 
BERLIN, 19. September 2007 - Apple and T-Mobile announced today that the prominent German mobile communications operator of exclusive marketing partners for the revolutionary iPhone is of Apple in Germany. On 9. November starts the sale of the iPhones in Germany. The iPhone combines three products in one - a mobile phone, one iPod with broad picture display and an Internet communications equipment. The operation effected over a new user surface, which is based on a large Multitouch display and software, over which the iPhone with the fingers be served can. Already 74 days after the marketing start in the USA to 29. June sold Apple the einmillionste iPhone.

“We are enthusiastically that we bring the iPhone with T-mobile as partners on the German market,” say Steve Jobs, CEO von Apple. “The resonance on the iPhone in the USA is unbelievable, and we can hardly wait for it to present the innovative portable radio equipment of the world also the customer of T-mobile.”

“We are convinced to be able to inspire our customers to experience the mobile Internet with that iPhone” say Hamid Akhavan, chairman of the board of T-mobile international. “I am proud that Apple and T-Mobile now as partners co-operate. At present best portable radio equipment transmits soon in the best German net. “

Apart from the attractive features, which made the equipment in the USA so popular, iPhone users in Germany also direct access become on the newest music offer of Apple, which recently introduced iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store gets. Music fan can browse with this new service wirelessly over a WLAN network in iTunes net curtain, determined song and albums search, listen to, buy and directly on the iPhone to down load. With that music fan their purchases can play iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store immediately on their iPhone, a computer are not needed. As soon as the iPhone is attached at the PC or Mac, automatically a synchronisation the song with that, loaded down, takes place iTunes library.

The T-mobile-net is made possible also the singular Visual Voicemail of the iPhones to support, the immediate access to that messages, which interest it in most for the users. Until at the end of of 2007 will offer T-mobile as only network users in Germany EDGE in the entire GSM net. EDGE accelerates the mobile data communication on up to 220 Kbit/s and is nearly four times as fast thereby as ISDN in the fixed network. With EDGE the German market leader offers 100 per cent broadband to its customers - always and everywhere. With 20.000 HotSpots T-mobile the largest W-LAN-offerer is world-wide. 8,600 HotSpots are in Germany - users can fall back here on Downloadgeschwindigkeiten of up to 11 MB/s.

Prices and availability

In Germany is the iPhone on 9. November on the market come. It is driven out over the Telekom shop and the T-mobile on-line shop. The iPhone is available with a T-mobile two-annual contract as 8GB model at the price of 399 euros inclusive value added tax. It runs over PC and Mac.




Looks like the Germans got punked for 2 years! lol
 
i was reading tech digest and jonathan weinberg seems to have a bee in his bonnet!!:

So the iPhone is finally landing in Britain on November 9 - well, whoop di doo! I'm told Steve Jobs did his usual brain-washing-style spouting at yesterday's launch.....

Timewise I make it seven and a bit weeks until the scrum kicks off, so roughly seven weeks from today until a load of morons begin camping out in front of O2 and Carphone Warehouse stores up and down the country in a bid to get their hands on this so-called "holy grail" of gadgetry

I remain as unconvinced as ever on its merits as I was the day it was launched in America, when a similar gaggle of idiots - brains totally overtaken by Jobs's sermons - paid $599..
 
sananda said:
i was reading tech digest and jonathan weinberg seems to have a bee in his bonnet!!:

So the iPhone is finally landing in Britain on November 9 - well, whoop di doo! I'm told Steve Jobs did his usual brain-washing-style spouting at yesterday's launch.....

Timewise I make it seven and a bit weeks until the scrum kicks off, so roughly seven weeks from today until a load of morons begin camping out in front of O2 and Carphone Warehouse stores up and down the country in a bid to get their hands on this so-called "holy grail" of gadgetry

I remain as unconvinced as ever on its merits as I was the day it was launched in America, when a similar gaggle of idiots - brains totally overtaken by Jobs's sermons - paid $599..
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so he likes it then?
 
Nice bit of FUD from the Times: where have all the decent journalists gone? Examples:

"It's likely, however, that many early customers - among them the tech cognescenti and the fashion-conscious who have become its disciples - will view the purchase not just as of a phone, but as a combined music player/internet browser/personal organiser device"

Er, that's because it is a music player, internet browser and personal organiser.

"The basic handset will cost £269 – £69 more than in the US. But Britons must also sign up to a contract costing £35 to £55 a month with O2 , Apple’s chosen network partner, for a minimum of 18 months. That puts the cost of the handset and contract at between £899 and £1,259 over 18 months."

True, but they don't mention the fact that any contract 'pnone comes with a compulsory contract period and therefore a cost. Idiots.
 
alFR said:
True, but they don't mention the fact that any contract 'pnone comes with a compulsory contract period and therefore a cost. Idiots.
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it's sloppy sensationalist journalism unbecoming of the times.
 
I'm slightly baffled by everyone ragging on the speed of 3G.

Have you actually checked the problem isn't the rendering speed of the browser in question? I have a Nokia N95 which has HSDPA (theoretically tops out around 3.5MBps but I generally see around 2) - browing on my phone is generally very slow but when I pair it with my macbook it *flies* - the problem isn't with the speed of the connection but the speed of the phone.

Personally I'm *really* disappointed with the UK iPhone release - they've done nothing to address the problems with the iPhone and are trying to apply US standards to the UK - I can understand lack of 3G in the US but in the UK its coverage is almost complete and is significantly better speedwise than EDGE. Meanwhile EDGE has an approx 30% coverage and the rest of the time people will have to use GPRS which from a data speed point of view might as well be smoke signals.

The battery power argument is ********* - the wireless will suck up more juice and besides, my N95 with its notoriously crappy battery life is still good for two days use between charges.

I had really hoped that by the time it came to the UK Apple would have fixed the things that stopped me wanting to buy one but I'm unfortunately stuck in the position of *really* wanting to buy it but absolutely cannot as it doesn't tick the necessary boxes.

Such a shame.
 
alFR said:
Nice bit of FUD from the Times: where have all the decent journalists gone? Examples:

"It's likely, however, that many early customers - among them the tech cognescenti and the fashion-conscious who have become its disciples - will view the purchase not just as of a phone, but as a combined music player/internet browser/personal organiser device"

Er, that's because it is a music player, internet browser and personal organiser.

"The basic handset will cost £269 – £69 more than in the US. But Britons must also sign up to a contract costing £35 to £55 a month with O2 , Apple’s chosen network partner, for a minimum of 18 months. That puts the cost of the handset and contract at between £899 and £1,259 over 18 months."

True, but they don't mention the fact that any contract 'pnone comes with a compulsory contract period and therefore a cost. Idiots.
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Yeah we were just talking about that on the iPhone board. Its like saying a car will cost £20,000... when in reality it is £12,000 to buy and the rest is fuel, insurance, tax etc over 5 years. If you look at the comments of that article, some people now think the phone actually costs £900.

Sensationalism in The Times. Who'd have thought it.
 
alFR said:
Good luck making 'phone calls with that Macbook. :)
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oh, i think s/he is on to something!! i make calls on my ibook. i'll get that cloud thing for £6.99 and then try to convince everyone that a huge phone is cool!!
 
NewMacGirl said:
I think the iphone will do well in the UK. I know from dealng with them that they have a lot of money up there. London is now the worlds financial centre and its awash with money. I was stunned when I went to London this year, and kept seeing big BMW's, Mercedes, Maybachs, Rolls Royces, Bentleys, honestly it was very eye opening. I was told that the BMW three series is the 4th highest selling car in the UK so they will have lots of spare cash for this phone.
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Surely, because (In US$) a studio flat (1 room) in East London can cost over $600,000, A single fare to the next train station less than a 1/4 of a mile away cost $8, a TV episode from iTunes just under $4, a glass of wine in a bar $11, just to drive one of the cars you mentioned through central London costs $50... :eek:

That we don't have much left over for a $540 phone and a MINIMUM $70 monthly bill...

(If they'd just scrapped the included £6.99 cloud wifi thing from the price and given us the monthly bill below £30, It would've been so much better...)

Still want one though :D
 
Chimaera said:
I'm slightly baffled by everyone ragging on the speed of 3G.

Have you actually checked the problem isn't the rendering speed of the browser in question? I have a Nokia N95 which has HSDPA (theoretically tops out around 3.5MBps but I generally see around 2) - browing on my phone is generally very slow but when I pair it with my macbook it *flies* - the problem isn't with the speed of the connection but the speed of the phone.

Personally I'm *really* disappointed with the UK iPhone release - they've done nothing to address the problems with the iPhone and are trying to apply US standards to the UK - I can understand lack of 3G in the US but in the UK its coverage is almost complete and is significantly better speedwise than EDGE. Meanwhile EDGE has an approx 30% coverage and the rest of the time people will have to use GPRS which from a data speed point of view might as well be smoke signals.

The battery power argument is ********* - the wireless will suck up more juice and besides, my N95 with its notoriously crappy battery life is still good for two days use between charges.

I had really hoped that by the time it came to the UK Apple would have fixed the things that stopped me wanting to buy one but I'm unfortunately stuck in the position of *really* wanting to buy it but absolutely cannot as it doesn't tick the necessary boxes.

Such a shame.
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I don't think you can compare the battery situation of the N95 with the iPhone.

A key marketing feature of the iPhone is the fact it is an iPod. It replaces that. So you expect people to be listening to music a lot during the day and watching video perhaps on the commute. The fact it has a full browser too also is heavily promoted and that will be utilised much more than the browser on your average phone. So right off the bat, I fully expect people o be using media on the iPhone far more than on the N95 (with media management and a web experience that falll far short of the iPhone).

So you have this high media usage, coupled with a battery sapping 3.5" screen that puts the Nokias to shame, and you have a recipe for disaster with 3G in there too.

How many N95 users are using it as their main portable media player? I bet it is a very small percentage. Yet basically everybody with an iPhone will be treating it as such.
 
Just need to clarify this

Does the iphone default to GPRS when not in an EDGE Zone?

Could I still send.receive emails with GPRS?

I can live with wifi for browsing the web but would need emails on the move when not in a wifi hotspot.

If the answer is yes to email with GPRS I would get one

PS an excellent thread on power useage with 3G, EDGE and wifi. Wifi and EDGE are FAR better for power consumption.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/330784/
 
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