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So after months of waiting the iPhone is almost here...

hardware wise with the phone i am very happy. I don't realy mind about 3G (live in a remote area where i get no EDGE or 3G so will use WiFi at home) and while at college i will be in an area where i can use the colleges WiFi with the iPhone so it is only times when i would be in a car for instance that i would not be able to surf the net at high speeds.

Not having MMS is also not a problem to me, though i would think that this is a service that will be update in a firmware update shortly.

The phone it's self is great.

The service plan however isn't so great. I use around 500 text messages a month. and currently pay £25 a month for 500 messages and 100 voice calls (on an o2 contract). £35 is rather excessive in my view.

The main thing i am interested in though is if there will be "o2 bolt ons" much like with the AT&T service where you can get 1500 texts for $10 more a month.

If they do that as an add on i will be sold. $10 = £5 though right..

With the "free" WiFi also i am yet to quite find out all there is to know about it. (ie. where local places would have in in local towns - probs no where i go!) i think it's a great idea personaly but i guess thats them trying to make up for only 30% EDGE coverage.

It's hard though when you see adverts for o2 saying "£25 a month, 500 minutes, 500 texts, free samsung G600"...
 
o2 store ...oh dear

i've just been in to my local O2 store and oh dear it's not really an apple experence........

i asked them about pay as you go tariff and he said he didn't now !!!!

so i said if you fail the credit check is your iphone a big brick ???

he said he wasn't sure but he thought the phone was coming out on the 9th Nov :eek::eek:

i will be trying it out in the apple shop for sure

(it seems that the us experence with dodgy ATT stores will be repeated here)

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I don't think you can compare the battery situation of the N95 with the iPhone.

A key marketing feature of the iPhone is the fact it is an iPod. It replaces that. So you expect people to be listening to music a lot during the day and watching video perhaps on the commute. The fact it has a full browser too also is heavily promoted and that will be utilised much more than the browser on your average phone. So right off the bat, I fully expect people o be using media on the iPhone far more than on the N95 (with media management and a web experience that falll far short of the iPhone).

So you have this high media usage, coupled with a battery sapping 3.5" screen that puts the Nokias to shame, and you have a recipe for disaster with 3G in there too.

How many N95 users are using it as their main portable media player? I bet it is a very small percentage. Yet basically everybody with an iPhone will be treating it as such.

Quoted/Bolded for truth.
 
BERLIN, 19. September 2007 - Apple and T-Mobile announced today that the prominent German mobile communications operator of exclusive marketing partners for the revolutionary iPhone is of Apple in Germany. On 9. November starts the sale of the iPhones in Germany. The iPhone combines three products in one - a mobile phone, one iPod with broad picture display and an Internet communications equipment. The operation effected over a new user surface, which is based on a large Multitouch display and software, over which the iPhone with the fingers be served can. Already 74 days after the marketing start in the USA to 29. June sold Apple the einmillionste iPhone.

“We are enthusiastically that we bring the iPhone with T-mobile as partners on the German market,” say Steve Jobs, CEO von Apple. “The resonance on the iPhone in the USA is unbelievable, and we can hardly wait for it to present the innovative portable radio equipment of the world also the customer of T-mobile.”

“We are convinced to be able to inspire our customers to experience the mobile Internet with that iPhone” say Hamid Akhavan, chairman of the board of T-mobile international. “I am proud that Apple and T-Mobile now as partners co-operate. At present best portable radio equipment transmits soon in the best German net. “

Apart from the attractive features, which made the equipment in the USA so popular, iPhone users in Germany also direct access become on the newest music offer of Apple, which recently introduced iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store gets. Music fan can browse with this new service wirelessly over a WLAN network in iTunes net curtain, determined song and albums search, listen to, buy and directly on the iPhone to down load. With that music fan their purchases can play iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store immediately on their iPhone, a computer are not needed. As soon as the iPhone is attached at the PC or Mac, automatically a synchronisation the song with that, loaded down, takes place iTunes library.

The T-mobile-net is made possible also the singular Visual Voicemail of the iPhones to support, the immediate access to that messages, which interest it in most for the users. Until at the end of of 2007 will offer T-mobile as only network users in Germany EDGE in the entire GSM net. EDGE accelerates the mobile data communication on up to 220 Kbit/s and is nearly four times as fast thereby as ISDN in the fixed network. With EDGE the German market leader offers 100 per cent broadband to its customers - always and everywhere. With 20.000 HotSpots T-mobile the largest W-LAN-offerer is world-wide. 8,600 HotSpots are in Germany - users can fall back here on Downloadgeschwindigkeiten of up to 11 MB/s.

Prices and availability

In Germany is the iPhone on 9. November on the market come. It is driven out over the Telekom shop and the T-mobile on-line shop. The iPhone is available with a T-mobile two-annual contract as 8GB model at the price of 399 euros inclusive value added tax. It runs over PC and Mac.




Looks like the Germans got punked for 2 years! lol

My god, who translated this article from german, the grammar is very very shaky..... some auto translator???:apple:
 
Just need to clarify this

Does the iphone default to GPRS when not in an EDGE Zone?

Could I still send.receive emails with GPRS?

I can live with wifi for browsing the web but would need emails on the move when not in a wifi hotspot.

If the answer is yes to email with GPRS I would get one

PS an excellent thread on power useage with 3G, EDGE and wifi. Wifi and EDGE are FAR better for power consumption.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/330784/

Yes, it will revert to GPRS.

There will almost certainly be a Pay as you go option, just as there was in the States, as a LOT of people will fail credit checks at Activation time. They just do not want you to know about the PAYG option, as too many people would go for that over the 18 month contract out of choice....
 
I spent this year in London in a not particularly amazing area, living in a 2 bedroom flat valued at a price equivalent to a detached 3 bedroom house in Manchester. Quite amazing.
 
So am I right in understanding from the German Press Release (my german ain't up to much) that the iPhone will be 399 Euros there? Yay £10 more than us! And I don't see and info on Tariffs. Is that right? As T-Mobile already do web-n-walk perahsp their standard Tariffs apply. Looking at the German T Mobile website, a 49 Euro tariff (£35) offers 200 minutes and no texts...

So we might even be getting a better deal...
 
I don't think you can compare the battery situation of the N95 with the iPhone.

A key marketing feature of the iPhone is the fact it is an iPod. It replaces that. So you expect people to be listening to music a lot during the day and watching video perhaps on the commute. The fact it has a full browser too also is heavily promoted and that will be utilised much more than the browser on your average phone. So right off the bat, I fully expect people o be using media on the iPhone far more than on the N95 (with media management and a web experience that falll far short of the iPhone).

So you have this high media usage, coupled with a battery sapping 3.5" screen that puts the Nokias to shame, and you have a recipe for disaster with 3G in there too.

How many N95 users are using it as their main portable media player? I bet it is a very small percentage. Yet basically everybody with an iPhone will be treating it as such.



great post and when the iphone is here everyone will agree!
 
Might be in Argyle street, st enoch, or Buchanan shopping centre I guess?
Keep bothering Apple genius staffs in the store should be fun too. :D:D

found one on the same street as a certain iphone maker
 

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I understand the price, but I really do not understand the contract pricing. On o2 currently I have 750 texts/200 minutes for £25 a month -- and if I had the equivalent I would have been willing to spend £35 for the iPhone factor.
 
I understand the price, but I really do not understand the contract pricing. On o2 currently I have 750 texts/200 minutes for £25 a month -- and if I had the equivalent I would have been willing to spend £35 for the iPhone factor.


but for an extra £10 you have unlimited internet access, do you use the net on your phone for at the moment?
 
Personally I'm *really* disappointed with the UK iPhone release - they've done nothing to address the problems with the iPhone and are trying to apply US standards to the UK - I can understand lack of 3G in the US but in the UK its coverage is almost complete and is significantly better speedwise than EDGE. Meanwhile EDGE has an approx 30% coverage and the rest of the time people will have to use GPRS which from a data speed point of view might as well be smoke signals.

The real figure for 3G coverage is probably very close to tha 30% mark. Especially with O2 (dark blue is 3G):

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I understand the price, but I really do not understand the contract pricing. On o2 currently I have 750 texts/200 minutes for £25 a month -- and if I had the equivalent I would have been willing to spend £35 for the iPhone factor.

But you don't have data on that plan, or the cloud, which is interesting, there's quite a few cloud hot-spots in my rural town. So add say a £10 for the data plan, and your get the cloud instead of 550 texts...

The more I think about this £35 quid plan, the more I realize its not bad value after all.
 
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