iPhone Launched in the UK on O2 Network

[SonicChronicler]

I bet you'd moan though if it was 3G and needed charging twice a day.

Really, this misnomer about 3G phones needs knocked on the head. We've had 3G phones here for ages, we can talk and download without having to recharge twice a day - my N70 is normally every other day, even on heavy usage.

The O2 deal is a no-no for me, the likelihood of being part of the 30% covered by edge is slim to none, and Wifi hotspots (never mind Cloud ones) are thin on the ground her in the sparsely populated North of England.

To me, the plan shows that neither Apple nor O2 consider this as a serious phone - it's a gadget pure and simple. £35 for 200 minutes and 200 texts? Do they think we don't talk to each other over here? The cheapest (and comparable) plan in the US offers 450 minutes!!!

Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[CD3660]

......the likelihood of being part of the 30% covered by edge is slim to none, and Wifi hotspots (never mind Cloud ones) are thin on the ground her in the sparsely populated North of England.

This is a concern for me too, and not just in relation to the sparsely populated areas of the 'frozen north'.

A 3G iPhone is definitely on its way, perhaps sooner than many people think, so why would o2 waste more of their resources on outdated technology when it will not be needed soon?

Perhaps they think that 30% is enough for them to get away with it during the relatively short period between launch in November and the arrival of the 3G version. I didn't hear any promises of much greater coverage than that at the launch the other day.

 

[iBlue]

Tariffs! Glad to live in America-where the taxes aren't as bad as in England

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Funny, I don't miss it.

Glad to live in a country that isn't run by dumb hypocritical fascist wankers and prudes.

but that's another topic, isn't it?
Zip it, flag waver. This is our thread to whinge.

 

[calculus]

Tariffs! Glad to live in America-where the taxes aren't as bad as in England

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good luck when you get ill...

 

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Tariffs! Glad to live in America-where the taxes aren't as bad as in England

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Yes, but can you get a proper cup of tea, or a warm beer?

 

[MikeyTadd]

I have to say, I want a iPhone, but no way am I going to bother.

I am on O2 UK, and the price plans are a joke! I pay £25 a month, get 600 minutes and 1000 text messages free! Granted I dont get any of the free data, but compared to the more expensive iPhone plans, we are being seriously ripped off!

Also, waiting 5 days for a number port, even if you are in the same network! and wanting to upgrade! never heard of that!

I think the strategy to just sell the phone unlocked and have it on any network would be beneficial to everyone. people would probably spend more on the phone that way.

Think it might be one of them things you wish for, but never end up getting!

 

[NewMacGirl]

Umm... If I was using this forum (and I have to confess i do such things if I don't know much about something) to research if I should buy an iphone in the UK I would quickly come to the conclusion to wait until the 3G model comes out.

There are very few posts saying they would get one as it stands now.

 

[sibruk]

Funny, I don't miss it.

Glad to live in a country that isn't run by dumb hypocritical fascist wankers and prudes.

but that's another topic, isn't it?
Zip it, flag waver. This is our thread to whinge.

PMPL
I like you

 

[harveypooka]

Umm... If I was using this forum (and I have to confess i do such things if I don't know much about something) to research if I should buy an iphone in the UK I would quickly come to the conclusion to wait until the 3G model comes out.

There are very few posts saying they would get one as it stands now.

I think that's the general opinion. Make up your own mind though.

I was going to get an iPhone, but after the price and shoddy deals, I went for the N95.

 

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I was going to get an iPhone, but after the price and shoddy deals, I went for the N95.

Interestingly, I was thinking of getting a N95 and iPod Touch, but after doing the costings the iPhone comes out cheaper over 18 months.

 

[Manic Mouse]

Of course not. Assuming you have a mobile contract anyway (as I do) there are many advantages to this phone even though they could have been a little more generous with the talk time allowance on the lower plans.

You pay your money and make your choice.

If you can't afford it, then I sympathise.

I already pay a contract and can afford it, but I'm certainly not getting an iPhone (even though I want one). Just because you can afford to throw money down the toilet it doesn't mean you should (or even that it's ethical to with the state of the world today).

If internet and email is more important to you than phoning then the tariffs are OK. But for phone use they are absolutely pathetic, so they're a no-go for me or any other phone user. I spend about 80% of my time a few feet away from a Mac with broadband so the "mobile internet" is nothing more than a small bonus and there are no Cloud WiFi points in Northern Ireland so the contracts are a bit of a rip-off in my case. I would be paying through the nose for something I barely use (or is unavailable to me in the case of The Cloud) while not getting what I need (minutes and texts).

It's not a matter as to whether everyone can afford it, but to me (and I would wager most of your average-joe users) the contracts are just not good value for money. The mobile internet is simply a perk, not the main reason for having the phone. It has WiFi so you're going to be paying a huge contract fee for using the 30% EDGE coverage while you're out and about. I'll need that maybe once in a blue moon, as will most users.

I'm happy for you people who apparently don't have any other form of internet, which makes this good value. But for the majority of us who already have the net available most of the time it isn't good value.

 

[tjcampbell]

The unlimited data rocks. I will make a lot less phone calls as I'll be sending emails. I noticed this when I got my blackberry. I made at least 75% less phone calls. So the lack of minutes wont really affect me. Not that I agree with the low minutes, but I know I wont need as much talk time as I'll be emailing more on the go if I don't have to worry about big time data costs and I did have to worry about big data costs before as I got o2 bills that were £50 on data alone when I switched from my Blackberry to a regular phone. Bring on the iphone mofo!

 

[Manic Mouse]

There are very few posts saying they would get one as it stands now.

And in a forum full of Apple fans that isn't a good sign for the iPhone.

 

[whiteboytrash]

The unlimited data rocks. I will make a lot less phone calls as I'll be sending emails. I noticed this when I got my blackberry. I made at least 75% less phone calls. So the lack of minutes wont really affect me. Not that I agree with the low minutes, but I know I wont need as much talk time as I'll be emailing more on the go if I don't have to worry about big time data costs and I did have to worry about big data costs before as I got o2 bills that were £50 on data alone when I switched from my Blackberry to a regular phone. Bring on the iphone mofo!

Me as well. I also text like a school-girl so minutes is not a big deal. I also love using the net but I hate being r*ped every time I use the net. You see there is a good reason Steve Jobs is a CEO of a multi-billion dollar company and the posters on this forum are not...... he's a visionary. He knows that Wi-Fi is the way forward and not 3G. He knows that the carriers alone can't provide high speed wireless internet... if they did.... they'd do what they are doing now... letting it out in dribs and drabs and charging the earth for it..... give 1-2 years and you’ll see…… non-3G and wi-fi units will be the norm……

 

[harveypooka]

Interestingly, I was thinking of getting a N95 and iPod Touch, but after doing the costings the iPhone comes out cheaper over 18 months.

I got the N95 free from 02 with 600 mins and 500 texts for 18 months at £17.50.

 

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I got the N95 free from 02 with 600 mins and 500 texts for 18 months at £17.50.

Bully for you. It's no iPhone though is it?

 

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I got the N95 free from 02 with 600 mins and 500 texts for 18 months at £17.50.

No data. No WiFi. No iPod Touch. Add these and it becomes significantly more expensive.

Also, I've now used the N95

 

[harveypooka]

Bully for you. It's no iPhone though is it?

No, it's not - and I'm glad! I'd rather spend £269 toward a new computer to be honest, I'd get a lot more out of it.

I'm considering moving to Windows because of the lack of range of Macs, so that £269 saved will go quite far!

 

[harveypooka]

No data. No WiFi. No iPod Touch. Add these and it becomes significantly more expensive.

The N95 has WiFi.

Not bothered about data on the go as I don't use the web or email when I'm out and about. If I do, it's just to check the odd Cinema time or address of somewhere so 3G is fine for that and not that expensive.

You've got me on the iPod Touch, but I'm going to buy an 8GB Nano with what I saved from the deal, good enough for me.

 

[emotion]

No, it's not - and I'm glad! I'd rather spend £269 toward a new computer to be honest, I'd get a lot more out of it.

I'm considering moving to Windows because of the lack of range of Macs, so that £269 saved will go quite far!

Face it, you don't understand that the advantage to Apple interfaces on Macs and Touch devices is certainly not in the price. It's in the usability.

 

[CD3660]

Just because you can afford to throw money down the toilet it doesn't mean you should (or even that it's ethical to with the state of the world today).

How people spend their money is entirely a matter for them.

Throwing it down the toilet? I think not!

Furthermore, what have ethics got to do with an iPhone? This is a dubious argument at best and could open up a can of worms. I pay my taxes so why can't I treat myself with my disposable income. There is nothing unethical about it in the slightest!

I spend about 80% of my time a few feet away from a Mac with broadband

I don't, that's why the iPhone would be very handy even if it is not cheap.

I would be paying through the nose for something I barely use (or is unavailable to me in the case of The Cloud) while not getting what I need (minutes and texts).

Clearly then, it's not for you.

...to me (and I would wager most of your average-joe users) the contracts are just not good value for money.

Should be a resounding failure then. Time will tell.

The mobile internet is simply a perk, not the main reason for having the phone. It has WiFi so you're going to be paying a huge contract fee for using the 30% EDGE coverage while you're out and about. I'll need that maybe once in a blue moon, as will most users.

Whether something is a main reason for having the iPhone depends on an individuals personal requirements.

For me, mobile internet is equal in importance to the phone itself.

I also travel away from base a lot so wi-fi is not always easy to get.

 

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The N95 has WiFi.

Sorry, I meant roaming WiFi (ie: The Cloud).

For your requirements the N95+O2 tariff was obviously a good deal. For mine it is a poor and expensive one.

That's fine. I'm not telling anyone to get an iPhone, I'm just fed up with people tell me how bad value it is - when clearly it is excellent value for what it offers - ASSUMING you want/need what it offers - which I do!

 

[harveypooka]

Face it, you don't understand that the advantage to Apple interfaces on Macs and Touch devices is certainly not in the price. It's in the usability.

You're right. I'll go and flagellate myself in the back.

I've used Apple products for 12 years. I'm well aware of what they offer and the advantages over generic PC's and gadgets.

However, when you can't afford and don't want the product - why buy it? It's just mindless materialism is you simply HAVE TO HAVE IT!

 

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It's just mindless materialism....

99.9% of life is mindless materialism.

 

[alFR]

Just because you can afford to throw money down the toilet it doesn't mean you should (or even that it's ethical to with the state of the world today).

I'll assume you never drink beer, or smoke, or eat out (because you could just cook at home, cheaper and you get a meal, right?), or buy a CD you don't really need but want, or go to the cinema (because you could just wait for the DVD and see it at home, cheaper again right?).

If internet and email is more important to you than phoning then the tariffs are OK. But for phone use they are absolutely pathetic, so they're a no-go for me or any other phone user.

The included number of minutes/texts would be fine for me - might not suit everyone, but there we go. What a lot of people are forgetting when comparing the included US minutes with the UK deal is that in the US mobile users get minutes deducted for incoming calls as well.

I spend about 80% of my time a few feet away from a Mac with broadband so the "mobile internet" is nothing more than a small bonus and there are no Cloud WiFi points in Northern Ireland so the contracts are a bit of a rip-off in my case. I would be paying through the nose for something I barely use (or is unavailable to me in the case of The Cloud) while not getting what I need (minutes and texts).

In other news: "Don't buy a hammer when you need a screwdriver".

If it doesn't fit your needs, obviously you're not going to buy it. That doesn't mean you can generalise your needs to everyone else in the UK.

It has WiFi so you're going to be paying a huge contract fee for using the 30% EDGE coverage while you're out and about. I'll need that maybe once in a blue moon, as will most users.

Geez, first people moan that EDGE is too slow, then people moan that you don't need EDGE because you've got WiFi so paying for mobile data is a waste. I tell you, the thing could be made of solid platinum with a diamond screen and come with a selection of dancing girls (or men, if you prefer) to accompany you round for the first 3 weeks after you buy it and some people on here would still complain.