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I hope that the original iPhone will be supported. I really wouldn't want there to be apps I couldn't download. If anything it will be hacked onto the original iPhone if the 3g is supported. They have the exact same hardware besides the 3g and gps.
 
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It's nit crippled. It's destined to serve it's function within the constrains of battery and size.

If you want raw power carry a laptop or desktop around. If you want optimized functional then carry the iphone

Technology is advancing in a way that we can do more things with smaller devices that have more power. Why carry a laptop when you can carry a phone with a 1.5GHz processor, a 8MP, 720p video camera, that can also multitask, and do just about anything?
 
Let's be honest, even if iPhone OS4 doesn't have multitasking and the lot, we all know you are going to upgrade to it, and possibly buy the 4th gen iPhone this summer. This is exactly what people said would happen in OS3 last year and it didn't. It might happen, but it's not a sure thing. And the sad part is, even if Apple chooses to stay behind on functionality, they're smartphone marketshare is still going to grow.
 
Thanks for sharing, the specs look wild on that moto.




The Motorola Motoroi coming to the US in March, has a 8MP camera that records video in 720p and an HDMI output to tv. Maybe we can see something close to that in iPhone G5?

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I do hope that the original iPhone does get some update loving. We wouldn't want confusion and fragmentation hitting the iPhone camp now would we? :eek:

Mulitasking of 3rd party apps would be a lovely addition IMHO, especially with streaming services. (would have probably been enough to keep me with my iPhone 3G if I knew it was coming)
 
You are correct. My wife was very unhappy every time she tried to call me from inside a store and I was sitting in the car browsing the Web. The calls would not come through.

EDIT: Problem solved with my 3GS.

I continue to experience this on my 3G. Very annoying and why I'm looking forward to my upgrade this year!
 
I know Apple touts battery life as a detriment to running background processes, but that choice of being able to multi-app with shorter battery life should be left to the user of the phone.

Indeed.

I continue to experience this on my 3G. Very annoying and why I'm looking forward to my upgrade this year!

This shouldn't happen with a 3G iPhone unless you're in an EDGE-only area. In which case upgraded iPhone hardware is not going to help you.
 
A uni-body construction with larger battery makes such a proposition quite feasible for a tablet. The biggest question is how this will scale to the iPhone without reducing already poor performance.

Could they take a page from the new quad-core iMac and power down between keystrokes or will consumers need to pay for a battery upgrade?


Have you ever seen a non-uni-body tablet? I do not mean the ones with convertible screen.
 
Hopefully the Multi-tasking will allow us to choose which apps we want to run in the background. Push notifications has worked well, and most of us are happy with and would only like to have background apps for the purpose of running apps like pandora ets... Apple will kill them all with Push and Multitasking... its a wrap!
 
I seriously doubt this update will magically make all apps multitask - Apple likes much more control than that, and they don't like the user experience to be compromised by having to manage background processes etc. If I were Apple, I would do it like this:


1. Apps would have to be specifically developed and submitted to the app store to get "permission" to multitask. If an app did not need real multitasking (e.g. if it can just "save state" on quitting) it would be rejected.

2. Clever APIs would minimise the need for real multitasking (e.g. a Calendar API that allows apps to issue notifications at a predetermined time).

3. Apps could have a secondary "mini-app" for multitasking purposes (e.g. a music streaming app would have the bare minimum for music streaming running in the background, then open up the full app when it is selected again).

4. Apps would be placed in categories; for example, if you open an app that plays audio, any audio app already running would quit.

5. There would be some provision for the OS to pre-emptively save the state of an app when quitting, again, to 'simulate' multitasking.


These are, of course, back-of-an-envelope ideas from a non-programmer, but my point is that there are all sorts of ways to get the *effect* of multitasking without having to go the whole hog (push notifications achieved that for some apps already - I am just predicting they will go further).
 
Finally, our long national nightmare is over. I, for one, welcome our new battery-sucking background apps.

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3) a zillion apps for which "background notifications" are not a real option (because they run with a delay, because they are too inflexible, or because the developer can't afford to dedicate a server to them without charging you a subscription fee)

That comment about not having a dedicated server is the whole reason why I was pissed when I heard about Background notifications. It would be perfect for one of my apps, but there is no way I can afford it right now.
 
I hope 4.0 brings with it that notification stack that I saw a patent application for a while back. It's pretty retarded how it is now. Plus showing emails with partial message text would be awesome!

Background apps? Sure, why not. Only thing I see that being useful for is Pandora. Now, google navigation, that's what I need!
 
That comment about not having a dedicated server is the whole reason why I was pissed when I heard about Background notifications. It would be perfect for one of my apps, but there is no way I can afford it right now.

Yeah, me too. To make it work, customers have to pay a monthly or annual fee (or I'd have to somehow earn enough ad revenue). As a customer, why would I want to pay a developer an ongoing fee to make an app pretend to be a background app?
 
Nothing I really didn't expect to be rumored... To be honest, I'm dubious of a new iPhone OS at this expo, isn't it a bit early? I do recognize the fact that 3.0 was more of an incremental update but still, an "iSlate" and a new OS seems like a bit much for one event... But who knows, maybe Apple will surprise us! :D

I suspect that the tablet and iPhone OS 4.0 will be very closely related...
 
Hopefully the Multi-tasking will allow us to choose which apps we want to run in the background. Push notifications has worked well, and most of us are happy with and would only like to have background apps for the purpose of running apps like pandora ets... Apple will kill them all with Push and Multitasking... its a wrap!

I hope that you are being sarcastic here, because I haven't talked to anyone that thinks Push Notifications are a good solution. At best, it's a stopgap measure that works but offers a terrible user experience. I hope Apple takes a page from the Palm Pre here, because they have a well thought-out multitasking and messaging system.
 
Does anyone else feel like this is a deliberate leak... it sounds just like the rhetoric that Apple uses for keynotes.

Or maybe everyone at Apple is just genuinely excited about the products they make. I would be if I worked at Apple and would probably convey that enthusiasm when talking about something we were working on.
 
It is probably so people will want to upgrade. For instance, there is no real reason why the iPhone 3G didn't receive voice control. They did it most likely to get Gen 2G and 3G users to buy the iPhone 3Gs.

well, didn't work, for the simple reason that my two year contract doesn't expire till next October. I think they have to support the 3G for OS 4.0 for the simple reason a lot of us are still locked into a contract. There would be a lot of mad people. No reason that I can see that 2G wouldn't be supported other than they must figure those that still have 2G phones have reasons other than having a contract for putting up with inferior tech and wouldn't switch anyway.
 
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