iPhone OS 4.1 Beta 2 is out (attached ScreenShot)

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  1. DisneyEcho macrumors member

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    I hope mobile Safari gets fixed. It crashes on me way too often in iOS 4 and iOS 4.0.1
     
  2. macpro2000 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm going to wait to re-upgrade my GS...can't have the proximity issue when calls are crucial.
     
  3. MacFly123 macrumors 68020

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    They better fix it in 4.1 or they are going to have some PISSED OFF people! I already know several people that are FURIOUS about it and want their old phones back. :(
     
  4. a1kim macrumors member

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    I think it will. I've been tracking a memory problem that comes up in my app that happens when you zoom in really tight within a web view and then zoom back out. With 4.1 that problem went away. I assume something weird was going on with Safari in 4.0 and 4.01, and whatever it was has been fixed (or at least improved).

    I also would get a consistent crash whenever accessing my work's webmail page, and that stopped with 4.1.
     
  5. Mike84 macrumors 6502a

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    How many people are already furious at Apple for other iPhone related issues? A LOT
     
  6. kas23 macrumors 603

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    Yes, and Apple has shown they really don't care. The proximity sensor fix will come when it comes.
     
  7. Mike84 macrumors 6502a

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    I agree it will come when it comes. Hence, it may or may not come for this 4.1 update. Though, what does this update do if not fix the proximity sensor?
     
  8. bmwhd macrumors 6502a

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    Folks - 4.1 is all about Audio/Video and Bluetooth enhancements based on the new APIs. They didn't promise the prox sensor fix until 4.1 was already in work so I would not expect it just yet.
     
  9. zub3qin macrumors 65816

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    IF it comes. Might not be fixable with software.

    Apple, there are a lot of people pissed. This sensor issue is going to quickly boil over into another antenna-gate story unless you do something soon.

    Just let us know if this is fixable..... If not, let us return the thing.
     
  10. MacFly123 macrumors 68020

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    Sad! This is the second biggest problem with iPhone 4 by far! They "fixed" the reception and exchange bug, so now this is the biggest lingering unaddressed issue that is affecting lots of people and infuriating them!

    It has quite a few tweaks actually and Game Center. My guess is this is getting ready for an iPod Touch update before the holidays.

    Then there better be a 4.0.2 because this is a BIG problem for lots of people that are already pissed about all the other drama!
     
  11. spblat macrumors 6502a

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    Two separate "senior" support people have confirmed that a fix is coming within a couple of weeks. If it's not in 4.1 I'm going to be pissed. And I've been an Apple apologist on this antenna thing.
     
  12. bradl macrumors 68040

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    I don't get what people don't understand about this. Jobs explicitly stated that while it could be installed there, it was going to be slow on all 3G iPhones. The 3GS and iPhone 4 were able to handle it, but that it would be slow on the 3G, and the original iPhone was unsupported.

    iOS 4 is working as designed on the iPhone 3G. Don't like it? downgrade to 3.1.3, or grab a 3GS or iPhone 4..

    .. or perhaps read up on what the requirements are before putting it on your phone.

    BL.
     
  13. meekgeek macrumors newbie

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    Sigh. Apple should really do something about iOS 4 on the iPhone 3G. Its frustratingly sluggish and apps (even built-in ones) crash because of lack of usable RAM.

    Hope arn can give this more coverage in the news page, alongside the proximity sensor issues.

    Folks who bought the $99 iPhone 3G just weeks before iPhone 4 launched really got the rug pulled out from under them.
     
  14. bradl macrumors 68040

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    No, they should have listened to what Jobs said prior to making their purchase. It isn't Apple's/Job's fault that they didn't do their research first before making their purchase.

    BL.
     
  15. meekgeek macrumors newbie

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    No. He said that only about the home screen wallpaper feature, not the entire iOS 4 experience.

    As I understand, the home screen wallpaper feature is sluggish on iPhone 3G because of the lack of video horsepower when drawing the shadows & opacity of the app icons & text onto the wallpaper.

    The sluggishness of iOS 4 on iPhone 3G is a slightly different thing. Its caused by the huge memory footprint resulting in lack of available RAM for apps to run stably. This is something Apple needs to fix as a matter of responsibility to customers, especially since they have decided to let iPhone 3G users run iOS 4.
     
  16. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Hate you say it, but you're a bit misinformed there.

    1:41:00 mark of Job's keynote speech at the WWDC. It's available for the iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, and iPhone 3G, with not all features being supported for the iPhone 3G. Won't support what you mentioned above, plus multitasking, and other features would be slow. His words: "The hardware just won't support it."

    BL.
     
  17. bmwhd macrumors 6502a

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    Not saying the prox sensor shouldn't be job one but from their point if view, there are two good work arounds users should be taking advantage of: use the included headset for calls or hit the lock key after the call connects.
     
  18. spblat macrumors 6502a

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  19. meekgeek macrumors newbie

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    Exactly my point. Features are killed because the hardware can't support it.

    And with that, the common iPhone 3G user would have assumed that Apple has done their due diligence and taken out the things that would not work well on the 3G, and hence the remnants of the stuff that are available for the 3G in iOS 4 would work acceptably.

    The current iOS 4 experience, with apps crashing incessantly and the keyboard being unresponsive for 30 seconds or more isn't considered an acceptable experience by any measure.

    Jobs/Apple did not say or warn users that even after removing the features they've decided to, that the iPhone 3G would be "slow". If you can point me to a place that Apple has a warning to iPhone 3G users upgrading to iOS 4 that the performance would be worse (e.g. website or iOS 4 release notes), I'll concede to your point.
     
  20. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Jobs said it himself: the hardware just won't support it. That should be warning enough, if not set off some red flags in your mind. But I'll answer that with a question. After hearing what Jobs said during the keynote, why would someone want to go off and buy a phone and decide to put the new OS on it, knowing that not all of the features would be functional the new OS provides? In doing that, you're asking for/inviting problems, such as aforementioned slowness that you are complaining about now. It isn't Apple's fault that you chose to install it. You upgraded to it, knowing the consequences of the upgrade.

    BL.
     
  21. spblat macrumors 6502a

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    I have to admit meekgeek has a point. I spent a few weeks on my 3G with iOS 4 and it was very painful. PvZ takes forever to load. SimCity interface is unacceptably slow. MotionX Drive is unusable. And the Apple apps are no picnic either. Launch Safari, wait. click the searchbox, wait for a keyboard. Typing lag. Very very painful.

    My conclusion: don't run iOS 4 on a 3G. Meekgeek's point: don't even make it available for the 3G unless you're willing to make the experience acceptable. I think that's fair.
     
  22. Eminemdrdre00 macrumors 6502a

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    Are you kidding?
     
  23. Solinus macrumors newbie

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    No he did not. He said multitasking would not be available and later said backgrounds also aren't available (which is fair enough as the phone has a slower CPU and less RAM). He did not say that the iOS4 features that are available on the 3G would result in it becoming unusably slow.

    Either they should have made iOS4 work on the 3G or not released it at all for the 3G.
     
  24. cybaster macrumors member

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    So people bitch because 3G don't have multitasking, and they also bitch about no wallpaper. You'll probably bitch if iOS4 was not released for the 3G....

    If you all haven't noticed, ever since iOS4/iPhone4 was released, there is nothing but bitching on such technology forums. Everyone is so ****ing self centered and thinks that everything must work THEIR way.

    Get real people, my Sony Ericcson W900 was obsolete 6 months after i got it. My Z600 was the same. the iPhone 3G is a 2 year old device. you should be happy to be able to "upgrade" to iOS4 FOR FREE. as much as you guys hate it.
     
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