Until sound quality, price and convenience compete with physical cables, I'll continue being a neanderthal thanks. I'm all for progress, but wireless headphones are worse than wired ones, that's a fact. But then I guess I am talking to the generation who also listen to music through their phone speaker, so have no concept of sound quality.
iPhone SE 2 Again Rumored to Launch in First Half of 2018
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Until sound quality, price and convenience compete with physical cables, I'll continue being a neanderthal thanks. I'm all for progress, but wireless headphones are worse than wired ones, that's a fact. But then I guess I am talking to the generation who also listen to music through their phone speaker, so have no concept of sound quality.
acblue94
macrumors 6502a
Because it's the cheapest and most pointless phone. You want extra features then upgrade to a better iphone.
JimmyBanks6
macrumors 6502
Why would anybody want to keep the headphone jack?
Every time I pick up my X I feel a surge of courage through my body. I would have never managed this feeling with a headphone jack.
Every time I pick up my X I feel a surge of courage through my body. I would have never managed this feeling with a headphone jack.
acblue94
macrumors 6502a
I personally don't mind staying on this iPhone SEries forever. This line is the only iPhone worth its asking price. No phone is really worth over $400 to me. My thumb can reach all four corners of the screen. The SE line is the MacBook Air of iPhones.
SE2 loses headphone jack but gains...
A10 Fusion
2nd gen Touch ID
Water/dust resistance
Dual front speakers
3D Touch
Wireless & fast charging
Taptic Engine (faux home button)
Front and rear cameras of the 7
Price it under $500 initially and I'm in. I can't reach all four corners of the display from the 4.7" iPhones.
May 2017 leak
SE's 1.2 MP front camera was one of its glaring weaknesses. Hoping Apple adds the 7's selfie cam for it. The 7's front cam is superior to the 8 & X.
Yes it's worth $400 but then add:
A10 Fusion
2nd gen Touch ID
Water/dust resistance
Dual front speakers
3D Touch
Wireless & fast charging
Taptic Engine (faux home button)
Front and rear cameras of the 7
And it becomes a $700 phone, therefore buy an iPhone 7.
To echo numerous other comments... Yay!
Catch the trend; 3S, 4S, 5, 5S, 6plus, 6S, SE,
(back to old 6S because SE got too slow after iOS11 and 64GB got too small for me; 6S is 128GB. 6S has horrific battery life.) The glass back of 8 looks like plastic. I love the form factor of the SE. My wish list is for better (and if possible, larger) display, and faster operation, the touch/pop that started in with 6S, and... No gimmicky, so-called features.
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SE has the same internals as 6S, so if your SE got too slow it make no sense to swap it out with a 6S. Sounds more like a reinstall is needed.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Collect them all!
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Why?
Even if they can, why do we consumers want it any thinner? If Apple can make the guts smaller, great, how about filling the freed-up space with more battery instead? And/or a better camera?
I know we're somewhat programmed by Apple to think we want "thinner" but why do we want thinner beyond that?
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To many for what?
Are you responsible for managing Apple SKUs?
If not, nothing for you to be concerned about.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I wish they would get rid of the "useless" camera, battery and screen too. In fact, I really want Apple to get rid of ALL features that iPhone users use and sell us an empty box for about $699. Then we can buy accessories for more to put a usable phone back together again.
Apple has a really hard time making SE bread and butter model. I think that's mainly due to consumer being able to recognize it's made in spare parts bin so it's not worth the investment. They need to give it some soul and personality or just drop the price by another $100 and try to play entry Android competition.
What Apple really needs to do for the next one is make it 8mm wider which still is sufficient for one handed use but display size then can grow to 4.3" which is a great tradeoff for compact device.
It doesn't need the latest chip or dual cameras but at least give it some shtick of its own, why remove the jack? Why not make it a sole model in the lineup with the headphone jack? (removing headphone jack has nothing to do with water resistance). Why not even put some super loud stereo speakers on it or some midrange DSP considering that people who buy this phone are youngsters who like to rock music. Hell why not make an iPod successor out of it but this time with semi-quality audio instead of complete rubbish like previous iPods?
There are so many ways to go with SE that don't require the latest internal bells and whistles. SE's weaknesses could make a push for some really good strengths.
What Apple really needs to do for the next one is make it 8mm wider which still is sufficient for one handed use but display size then can grow to 4.3" which is a great tradeoff for compact device.
It doesn't need the latest chip or dual cameras but at least give it some shtick of its own, why remove the jack? Why not make it a sole model in the lineup with the headphone jack? (removing headphone jack has nothing to do with water resistance). Why not even put some super loud stereo speakers on it or some midrange DSP considering that people who buy this phone are youngsters who like to rock music. Hell why not make an iPod successor out of it but this time with semi-quality audio instead of complete rubbish like previous iPods?
There are so many ways to go with SE that don't require the latest internal bells and whistles. SE's weaknesses could make a push for some really good strengths.
otternonsense
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Understatement of the day. The current iPhone SE is the iPhone 5s with improved innards. The only difference is that the chamfered edges have lost their shiny finish. Otherwise it's EXACTLY the same device shell.
v0lume4
macrumors 68030
Wow, a C1. You have great taste.I drive a 1957 Corvette. I guess that means I look like I'm way behind the times and need to upgrade to a Toyota Prius or I'm lame.
Interesting.
What's the above based on, Apple now breaks out SE numbers?
You realize the iphone 5 came before the iphone 5s yes? Why do people think iphone 5s was first?
BMcCoy
macrumors 68000
otternonsense
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Had you spent a sh!tton of money for good headphones instead of a pointlessly expensive phone, you would have.
*edit* I got the joke with a delay due to internal beachballs
otternonsense
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Says who? For all intents and purposes, the best iPhone designs were 4 and 5. And they were good for THAT time they were released. If you also want to ride a 1940s beetle because of its iconic design, go right ahead.
5S was an iteration that stuck out because of the introduction of gold, and 6 resulted in epic sales, even if it was a bit meh from the get go.
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