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(iPhone SE is a)*"Very" affordable phone in USA, in Europe not so much.

* An 64GB version will set you back $449, if you are lucky to live in a state with no tax that is €403 yet we pay €549
And yes, I am aware why there is such a huge difference but it's just too much, hell, an iPhone 7 base model is €769, just outrageous if you ask me.
I can easily afford them but no way I am buying these iPhones.
 
If the iphone 7 isn't high tech, there is no high tech mobile cellular phone device out there. Certainly no android device or windows device then by that bench mark.
Artificially generated results driven by embarrassing low screen resolutions.. comeback when they have a 2k screen and then tell me how good they perform.
 
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Artificially generated results driven by embarrassing low screen resolutions.. comeback when they have a 2k screen and then tell me how good they perform.
So in your opinion the only thing that makes the phone high tech is the screen. I think that's a little narrow, but if that's your definition, who am I to argue. :)

Have a great day sir.
 
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So in your opinion the only thing that makes the phone high tech is the screen. I think that's a little narrow, but if that's your definition, who am I to argue. :)

Have a great day sir.
So the only that makes your device hi tech is a bench mark? , Mmm , bit narrow minded would you say. Have a nice day sir.
 
I don't know. But if smartphones are to be a pocket computers for apps and all sorts of things, miniature 4" display is not gonna cut it for most people. I don't use phablet but I can see a lot of them being used. Sometime I think I see more phablet being used then 4.7". People want one pocket device that does almost everything. And small screens just don't seem right for that purpose.

That's the argument against the Apple Watch as well. Yet Apple is rumored to be planning to add an LTE radio to it, so that it will act as a standalone device without an iPhone.

If what you are saying is right for the majority of iPhone users, then there would be no need for an Apple Watch that doesn't require an iPhone.

The reality is, except for those who carry their phones in purses and briefcases, smaller and more compact is always going to be better for a mobile device, and that's why the Apple Watch is headed the direction it is. I can imagine a future where carrying around a flexible, or foldable, display is an option for people to use with their watch if they need significant screen real estate while mobile. Many others will chose to make due with their watch, or watch-sized device.

In my case, the SE is the smallest iPhone I can buy. If I had my way, I'd still be using my 4s. I don't have any problems with the SE screen size at all. For some apps I'd prefer the same information as the 4.7" iPhones display even if it appears smaller. But I don't need a physically larger screen.

Phablets exist not so much because people were demanding larger screens, though I do know some older people with weaker eyesight who prefer them specifically because of the size, but rather it allowed the phone makers to pack the larger case designs with more features. And now people are used to larger screens. But it doesn't mean most people actually need them.

The Apple Watch is a sign that the pendulum is swinging back the other way. If Apple manages a bezeless 4.7" phone, it will be physically smaller than the SE. Apples goal is to make a phone that hits a sweet spot that is as functional to as many people as possible while also being as portable as possible for a mobile device. Increasingly larger phones don't really walk that line very well, and those desiring a smaller phone aren't being served adequately right now. But the success of the SE demonstrates there's a demand for smaller devices. The question is, how will Apple address that? At the moment the further appears to lie with the Apple Watch.
 
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So the only that makes your device hi tech is a bench mark? , Mmm , bit narrow minded would you say. Have a nice day sir.
The benchmark, since you brought that up, is some testament to the overall internal engineering of the phone, which in part, is what makes it high-tech. In your opinion, that is to be discounted. So yes, a bit of a narrow definition.

Have a great day sir!
 
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The benchmark, since you brought that up, is some testament to the overall internal engineering of the phone, which in part, is what makes it high-tech. In your opinion, that is to be discounted. So yes, a bit of a narrow definition.

Have a great day sir!
Benchmark does not necessarily equate to real world use however.
 
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Apple's response to slowing sales is dysfunctional. Instead of improving products to boost sales they cheapen products to increase margins. Cook runs Apple like a typical American corporation that makes garbage in China.
 
I really like this little machine, if it were refreshed I would buy it in a heart beat. How annoying is to be willing to buy something and Apple denying you the option.
 
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That's the argument against the Apple Watch as well. Yet Apple is rumored to be planning to add an LTE radio to it, so that it will act as a standalone device without an iPhone.

Totally a different thing. Apple watch or any smart watch for that matter play a different role and is never meant to replace your smart phone. Getting calls while you exercise and you don't have to keep a phone on you is nice. Watch apps are designed differently for small screen and don't give you a full screen experience. But not in a million years Apple (or any other company) could convince people that watching videos, playing video games, editing photos /videos, sending and receiving emails, browsing the Internet should be done on a tiny watch. Is just wrong. I have Apple watch and love it for what it is intended to do. Quick notifications while my phone is not on me, quick apple pay, fitness tracking, ruining or any other exercise.
 
So in your opinion the only thing that makes the phone high tech is the screen. I think that's a little narrow, but if that's your definition, who am I to argue. :)

Have a great day sir.

Not for Apple it aint.Revolutionary OLED incoming on iPhone 8 with 2K resolution.
 
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What does "low resolution pixels" even mean?
The SE has the same density as the iPhone 7 I.e. 326ppi
Obviously with a smaller screen there are less pixels to manage, but that is exactly the point made by the post you responded to.

This 326PPI retina threshold is actually nonsense.I went from 326PPI to a 401 PPI on an iPhone 7 Plus and the difference in sharpness is night and day.When I look at an iPhone 6 all text feels blurred.So yes the iPhone SE has a terribly low res display.
 
This 326PPI retina threshold is actually nonsense.I went from 326PPI to a 401 PPI on an iPhone 7 Plus and the difference in sharpness is night and day.When I look at an iPhone 6 all text feels blurred.So yes the iPhone SE has a terribly low res display.

It's highly possible that your eyes are very weak. Text looks crystal clear to my eyes on a iPhone 6 heck, even on my 4S!!! SE is truly excellent screen wise to me!
 
It's highly possible that your eyes are very weak. Text looks crystal clear to my eyes on a iPhone 6 heck, even on my 4S!!! SE is truly excellent screen wise to me!

Look at the text on the Plus for around 30mins.Then look at text on an iPhone 6/SE.Then come back and tell me which is better
 

You people really are like little children.
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They might choose to do a "one step behind" thing again, like with the iPhone 5C. So the 2017 SE might be the iPhone 7's processor, RAM, camera, etc. If they go OLED next year, I'm hoping the SE still gets that at least. It would help the battery life situation.

The SE has tremendous battery life (because screen has lower rez), so not sure why it would need that.
 
(iPhone SE is a)*"Very" affordable phone in USA, in Europe not so much.

* An 64GB version will set you back $449, if you are lucky to live in a state with no tax that is €403 yet we pay €549
And yes, I am aware why there is such a huge difference but it's just too much, hell, an iPhone 7 base model is €769, just outrageous if you ask me.
I can easily afford them but no way I am buying these iPhones.

Well, remember that in the UK there is VAT and the devaluation of the pound that accounts for the price.
Don't think Apple is responsible for either.... Little idiot voters are responsible for one of them.
They're not going to sell the phone for less in US dollars than in the UK that's for sure.

When the Canadian dollar was on par with the US one, prices were almost the same as in the US.
That's not the case anymore with the devaluation 2.5 years ago because of oil prices falling.
 
Totally a different thing. Apple watch or any smart watch for that matter play a different role and is never meant to replace your smart phone. Getting calls while you exercise and you don't have to keep a phone on you is nice. Watch apps are designed differently for small screen and don't give you a full screen experience. But not in a million years Apple (or any other company) could convince people that watching videos, playing video games, editing photos /videos, sending and receiving emails, browsing the Internet should be done on a tiny watch. Is just wrong. I have Apple watch and love it for what it is intended to do. Quick notifications while my phone is not on me, quick apple pay, fitness tracking, ruining or any other exercise.

I never stated the watch would be used for all of those things. I stated that's where the phone is going -- a small portable device that allows someone who needs a screen to attach one, relative to the activities they may need to perform when mobile. Apple is not rumored to be adding LTE so people can take phone calls while they are exercising. They're most likely doing it because people don't like carrying around a phablet everywhere they go, nor do most need one.
 
The SE is essentially the iPhone 6S internals in a 5S body at a bargain price. I paid $400 for my 64GB SE contract-free (now it's down to $350). I don't see how that is "milking" it.

Where does one get a brand new iPhone SE with 64gb for $350?! Aple's price is $450!

Is there a reputable dealer selling it for $350?! That'd be great to know about! Please let us know... I'd buy one in a flash at that price!
 
I'm not entirely surprised. I figured the iPhone 8 (or whatever they name it) will be released in 3 sizes. Perhaps dual cameras will be missing from the 4" version or something.
 
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