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4" display is too small to be useful and is like the netbook of laptops.
 
4" display is too small to be useful and is like the netbook of laptops.
True for you but not everyone.
Its like goldilocks for some the 4" display is just right!
Of course and then theres the price..most of the 6S guts in a phone thats $$ less.
If Apple doesn't keep making it, they're ceding the Sub $550 market.
Too bad because they've sold quite a few SE's.
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Artificially generated results driven by embarrassing low screen resolutions.. comeback when they have a 2k screen and then tell me how good they perform.
Most people don't care about that nor do they care that the iPhone kicks the pants off most of the android phones.
Its the Os. Lots of choices, life is good!
 
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Okay, so growing existing products isn't what makes a CEO great. Let's ignore all existing products and subsequent iterations of those from when Tim Cook took over as CEO.

Apple Pay has grown 500% YoY.
Apple Music has 15 million paid subscribers in one year (getting half the paid subscribers of the market leader, despite Spotify's 9 year head start).
Apple Watch became the #2 watch in the world in terms of revenue, second only to Rolex. It was also the #1 selling smartwatch. That was the first generation.

Other than that Tim Cook has raised R&D spending to almost $10 billion. He's betting on future products.
 
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I'm sorry, if you think 250 hours of standby time is "tremendous battery life" you need to see the world outside Apple's walls more.
Not exactly sure where this comment comes from. Here is the s7 Galaxy standby test from the android authority.

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Yep love my unlocked 64GB SE. I got one this last summer for myself and one for my daughter before they remove the headphone jack on the next one. The 6 and 6s although very nice tech, were just too fat-n-thin. I wish I could trust the edge integrity without using a bumper-case. And we all should be able to replace/rotate-out the battery. Not being able to do that indicates the greenwashing of a product line.
 
Yup. "whining" is a statement of dissatisfaction....and rightly so. Me too. I don't get those people who tells us to "stop whining." It is indeed a forum.

Theyre arent as many as there used to be on these forums, but it still amazes me how many fanboys still tell us to accept the bs Apple shovels. Obviously there is a growing sea change in how Apple is being percieved these days, and it probably will only get more negative.
Apple is a company that makes products for consumers, and the more consumers express their disatisfsction, the more likely apple will change
 
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Theyre arent as many as there used to be on these forums, but it still amazes me how many fanboys still tell us to accept the bs Apple shovels. Obviously there is a growing sea change in how Apple is being percievex these days, and it probably will only get more negative.
Apple is a company that makes products for consumers, and the more consumers express their disatisfsction, the more likely apple will change
I know what you mean. There are people like us who can see through all those BS that Apple is selling. I like Apple products, but there's limit to how much a person take from the company.
 
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Okay, so growing existing products isn't what makes a CEO great. Let's ignore all existing products and subsequent iterations of those from when Tim Cook took over as CEO.

Apple Pay has grown 500% YoY.
Apple Music has 15 million paid subscribers in one year (getting half the paid subscribers of the market leader, despite Spotify's 9 year head start).
Apple Watch became the #2 watch in the world in terms of revenue, second only to Rolex. It was also the #1 selling smartwatch. That was the first generation.

Other than that Tim Cook has raised R&D spending to almost $10 billion. He's betting on future products.
$10 billion gone to drain considered current apple lineup.
 
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Okay, so growing existing products isn't what makes a CEO great. Let's ignore all existing products and subsequent iterations of those from when Tim Cook took over as CEO.

Apple Pay has grown 500% YoY.
Apple Music has 15 million paid subscribers in one year (getting half the paid subscribers of the market leader, despite Spotify's 9 year head start).
Apple Watch became the #2 watch in the world in terms of revenue, second only to Rolex. It was also the #1 selling smartwatch. That was the first generation.

Other than that Tim Cook has raised R&D spending to almost $10 billion. He's betting on future products.
Okay, so growing existing products isn't what makes a CEO great. Let's ignore all existing products and subsequent iterations of those from when Tim Cook took over as CEO.

Apple Pay has grown 500% YoY.
Apple Music has 15 million paid subscribers in one year (getting half the paid subscribers of the market leader, despite Spotify's 9 year head start).
Apple Watch became the #2 watch in the world in terms of revenue, second only to Rolex. It was also the #1 selling smartwatch. That was the first generation.

Other than that Tim Cook has raised R&D spending to almost $10 billion. He's betting on future products.

I guess you didnt read the article. Steve Ballmer's microsoft grew tremendously in his first many years as ceo. But by the time he left, he was considered a failure.

The article argues Tim Cook is following the same trajectory and very intelligently explains why.
So to list the financial 'succeses' during Cooks first 5 years isnt the way to attempt to refute what the author of the article is arguing.

But I know you will defend Apple and Tim Cook at every turn, no matter what the hell he or Apple does, so enjoy your apple watch and the decent stock price while they last!
 
Wow, I'm glad you know what I find useful or not. I had a 6S and returned it for an SE, because the 6S was too large.

I thought the larger displays would make the text larger too in Safari, but it's the same size. That's when I wondered what the point of the larger displays was. I mean, if you have to squint to see the native display on the SE then the same is true of the larger.
 
Oh man! I'm in the same situation, I'm currently testing a 6S with TSMC chip, and I'm going to return it for an SE because I can't deal with this huge size and weight. I just can't get used to it, I come from a 4,5" Moto G, which is a bit smaller and lighter, but man, the 6 is so slippery! And the silicon case is so bulky. I miss the size of my iPhone 4S, and I think the 5/5C/5S/SE has the best smartphone form factor ever.

Really, really hope to be lucky. If the screen is not yellow and the button is not clicky, like my current 6S, I'll keep it. If screen is bad -I have a noticeable dead pixel on the screen of this 6S-, or the button clicky plus Samsung chip, I'll exchange it for another.
Yeah I do like the lightness of the 5-SE models, I did love the bigger screen size when I had the 6 though.
You can get a replacement anyway if you have a dead pixel on the screen?
Funny story my SE had dead pixels, got a full device replacement, dead pixels AGAIN so I just asked for a display replacement as I was sick of restoring backups...
 
so, we're looking at Samsung may raise its prices on components which in turn Apple will be forced to change more for an iPhone at the consumer?
 
Not exactly sure where this comment comes from. Here is the s7 Galaxy standby test from the android authority.

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so that's one and a half weeks .... The longer u go in standby the more u start asking yourself "does it really matter how long it lasts on battery ? "

A week is probably a sweet spot... if u go on holiday, why would u *not* bring a charger?
 
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I'm probably the only person in the world that wishes they would go even smaller with the iPhone. I miss the size of the 4 or 4s. I wish Apple, or any other company for that matter, would try to produce the smallest premium phone on the market. The SE is that now but I wonder what the market would be for a smaller 4 or 4s sized iPhone. I know I would pay a premium price for it.

I agree, I would also say there is a market for a "nano" phone
 
This 326PPI retina threshold is actually nonsense.I went from 326PPI to a 401 PPI on an iPhone 7 Plus and the difference in sharpness is night and day.When I look at an iPhone 6 all text feels blurred.So yes the iPhone SE has a terribly low res display.

...but you are not making a point about the SE.
All you are saying is that the 7plus has a better resolution than any other iPhone.
So what?
 
I guess you didnt read the article. Steve Ballmer's microsoft grew tremendously in his first many years as ceo. But by the time he left, he was considered a failure.

The article argues Tim Cook is following the same trajectory and very intelligently explains why.
So to list the financial 'succeses' during Cooks first 5 years isnt the way to attempt to refute what the author of the article is arguing.

But I know you will defend Apple and Tim Cook at every turn, no matter what the hell he or Apple does, so enjoy your apple watch and the decent stock price while they last!

The stock price is irrelevant to me. I was pointing to successes that happened after Tim Cook had taken over as CEO, *not* to the fact iPhone and Mac sales increased in that time.

Steve Ballmer laughed at the iPhone. Tim Cook's reaction to things like Google Glass is a more subdued, thoughtful 'it's difficult to see how that will become mainstream'.


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$10 billion gone to drain considered current apple lineup.

Or on products not released yet? Or the health and fitness facility which goes into Apple Watch? Or the chip design keeping iPhone the fastest phone on the market?
 
I thought the larger displays would make the text larger too in Safari, but it's the same size. That's when I wondered what the point of the larger displays was. I mean, if you have to squint to see the native display on the SE then the same is true of the larger.
Go into settings, and turn Zoom mode on. An iPhone 6 in Zoom mode is like an iPhone 5, just bigger. An iPhone 6+ in Zoom mode is like an iPhone 6, just bigger (doesn't display more on the screen, everything is just bigger).
 
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