It has been pointed out time and time again, even IIRC reported on Macrumors. In the old days only Apple release shipment numbers and IDC worked the market shares backward. Ever since Apple stop releasing those numbers, all the guess of Apple shipment both on Mac and iPhone have been wrong.
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iPhone Shipments Down 9% in China's Q1 Smartphone Boom
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It has been pointed out time and time again, even IIRC reported on Macrumors. In the old days only Apple release shipment numbers and IDC worked the market shares backward. Ever since Apple stop releasing those numbers, all the guess of Apple shipment both on Mac and iPhone have been wrong.
Without Steve Jobs and Jony Ive, I have a hard time believing that there could be a moment like the one that saw Apple literally blossom.
I was using Google Pixel with GrapheneOS and it was great but I was getting annoyed by the lack of a smaller phone.
Apple was able to get away with selling MacBooks with only 8GB for too many years. Let's hope they start shipping phones with 120hz screens and hopefully smaller sizes for the ones who want something portable, not a giant screen for consuming media; something Apple wants you to do.
Using both I can say that, on the respective top-of-the-range phones, there are differences but all in all the two systems are more or less comparable. Obviously the A-series chips are superior, as is Face ID. But for the rest it's often a question of preference...
For me, it is what I started with. The first Apple handheld device I owned was an Apple iPod Touch 2G, it used iOS 4.2.1. I went through several iPod Touches, ending with the iPod Touch 5, which used iOS 9.3.5. My family mostly uses Android. I have briefly used their Samsung smartphones, and they are OK. But I am so deeply into the Apple ecosystem, I see no reason to change at this point. You can see in my equipment listing below how far in I am. It was hard to replace batteries, which kept me from getting Apple's iPods. Finally, I decided to ignore this; it has never been an issue. If Samsung had had something like an iPod Touch at the beginning, I would probably have the latest Samsung smartphone, but that is not how it worked out. My youngest nephew went from an Android to an iPhone 16 Pro, mainly because of how well it works with his Tesla Model 3, but now that he has one, there is no going back for him.
I will not argue with that. I did not trade in my 12 PM because I was going to give it to my elderly father. He didn't want it, so I kept it around as a backup for my 14 PM. I always thought the 2 were hard to tell apart. When I purchased the iPad M4 13" Pro Max, the 12 PM really became redundant, so I gave it to my sister-in-law. She loves it and is making good use of it. I traded the 14 PM in for a 16 PM, and with it, there are some real improvements over the 14.
So how about you explain being first in market share in last quarter? Just because they are struggling in china they aren’t struggling anywhere else
Chinese brands should be dominating in their home base due to how good the hardware is
If Apple don’t release actual numbers how do you know the numbers from the market research firms are wrong? They don’t just guess those numbers. They have a variety of sources.
That was my original point. You can’t say their numbers are wrong because we just don’t know.
You’re probably correct. I only stick with the iPhone because it’s easier as a Mac user. I can’t be bothered to change and learn a whole new OS.
People here who hate android is probably because they had a bad experience 10 years ago (and that left them traumatized for life apparently), people who bought a $150 android phone and complain that is not as good as their $1300 IPhone (I can't believe those people don't see the absurdity of this...) or just hate android because "It's not IOS" and it's chic to hate "the other guy" on an apple forum.
There are some genuinely excellent Android devices that are objectively more powerful than the IPhone, with better hardware specs and cameras, and for some people they offer a superior experience to iOS.
The most legitimate reason to dislike android and stay on IOS forever is probably the saddest one, that you're a slave chained to the apple ecosystem forever and cursed to keep buying apple devices without even looking at alternatives because of "the ecosystem" (that looks more like a psychological prison).
There are some genuinely excellent Android devices that are objectively more powerful than the IPhone, with better hardware specs and cameras, and for some people they offer a superior experience to iOS.
The most legitimate reason to dislike android and stay on IOS forever is probably the saddest one, that you're a slave chained to the apple ecosystem forever and cursed to keep buying apple devices without even looking at alternatives because of "the ecosystem" (that looks more like a psychological prison).
You are comparing a $300 dollar android phone to $1000 dollar one no wonder the iPhone is better on various levels of course it would be.
The A Chips have not been superior to high end snapdragons for a long time, apple lost the performance race a few years ago when they started prouldly announcing 10% performance increases every year while qualcomm is always 30% or 40%, the latest snapdragon 8 elite makes the A18Pro look like a 2023 chip.
Also the modems of the IPhones are always objectively worse, they are discrete qualcomm modems that are always one or two years behind qualcomms (and the snapdragon chips have the modem inside the SoC)
By that same token, Apple copies others when they capably do the not first but best strategy. It's not black and white. People copy and exceed Apple, this isnt a hard thing to understand
And my point is you can’t say they are right either. Believe them or not, there is room for debate on the veracity of these numbers, given these companies have no information from Apple to work with and are never, ever verifiable..
You really want to enter that rabbit hole? Apple has copied TONS of things from android too, it's not like ios was created in a pure clean room away from all external influence.
That’s not true at all if you look at the benchmarks. Pick your point. Multi core or single core. It’s not an absolute win and it took Qualcomm 14 years to beat them.
Yes that’s true. But unless one is using their phone as another it’s not relevant. It has to be good enough and efficient enough - more than Qualcomm..
I've stopped commenting about Android for exactly this reason.
I have zero experience with it in probably 5-6 years now I'd say?
My opinion is not valid on the topic with that out of date experience.
Absolutely, let’s get into it. The tech world is very incestuous.
They might not get the numbers right down precisely but they can roughly measure the figures.
China the knockoff capital of the world glad they are seeing a decline hopefully it gets much worse for them.
Every company borrows similar features from each other in regards to mobile OS’s
Or else iOS would still look & run like iOS 6
That’s why it’s difficult for Apple in china competing with other company’s