It’s very unlikely based on the Chinese market & what we know about it
And the choice it’s a available & factors involved
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Why do you guys make it sound like a bad thing? I think it's the best thing about having iOS and Android compete. It's only a bad thing when they copy the worst aspects: Samsung copying Apple in removing the headphone jack, Google and Samsung removing the microSD slot. Apple copying Samsung in adding so much bloat. Cor blimey!
Android copying faceID, facetime (Duo on Android) are good things. Apple copying Android in bigger screen is a good thing.
Not the word I'd use, but yes. I prefer cross pollination, BTW.
So according to your reasoning, windows xp was the best operating system on the planet since it had the highest market share. Ok.
XP was pretty good for windows, I'm not sure this is the own you think it is.
I really missed XP. It worked; I never loaded Windows 7, which was a huge mistake. I loaded Windows 8, which was a star-spangled turkey. Then Windows 10 finally caused me to make the long thought-out decision to move to Apple. I needed a PC to operate my ham radio station (W7ITC). The first NUC PC had Windows 10 loaded. This time, not only was the OS a turkey, but so was the mini PC. It lasted about 1 year and completely died. I don't know what happened to it, I also didn't care. I now have a GMKTech NUCBox K11 Ryzen 9 Radeon GPU, etc. It is loaded with Windows 11 Pro. Love this little machine. The way I have things setup, it is a it is three-button push to go between the Mac Studio and the K11. The 2 systems work so well and so much alike, I find that I have spaced which computer I am using.
Yes, if they copied only what performs well and works reliably, then they have surpassed Apple. I do not know if they did but those who work with Apple and non-Apple software and hardware probably have an opinion on that.
I still use a Chinese smartphone I bought in 2018. Back then Xiaomi phones were sold very cheaply to gain market share.
Now there is the Xiaomi 15 Ultra and it beats iPhones in many aspects while costing less than $900 in China.
iPhones still have the camera problem. The jump between the 1x and the 5x lens is just too big. So your 4.5 x photos are taken with the 1x lens, which means a 4.5x crop. Some Chinese phones have a fourth camera to solve that and use 200 megapixels 1x cameras in order to have enough resolution for cropping.
In China even some cheap phones come with a 120 Hz display and the price for extra storage is really small. You sometimes just pay $50 to upgrade your storage from 512 GB to 1 TB.
Now there is the Xiaomi 15 Ultra and it beats iPhones in many aspects while costing less than $900 in China.
iPhones still have the camera problem. The jump between the 1x and the 5x lens is just too big. So your 4.5 x photos are taken with the 1x lens, which means a 4.5x crop. Some Chinese phones have a fourth camera to solve that and use 200 megapixels 1x cameras in order to have enough resolution for cropping.
In China even some cheap phones come with a 120 Hz display and the price for extra storage is really small. You sometimes just pay $50 to upgrade your storage from 512 GB to 1 TB.
You have illustrated one of the big problems the export Market in China now has. Their overseas business is largely gone. So now they are trying to move in on the Domestic Market. But they cannot get the prices they are used to getting from their offshore markets. There are a lot of domestic producers that supply this market. To see these products, see them at Chinavasion. $50 USD smart phones.
Looked up the Xiaoma 15 Ultra, Impressive Camera, it has the periscope telephoto lens we have been hinted at on the iPhone for several years. At AliExpress it is selling for $1500 bucks.
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My usage sort of blurs together between Android and iOS. It's not until something like Safari going off the rails on the 16PM that I realize I'm on one or the other. Sometimes I'm bracing for a crash on a website only to realize I'm on brave on my S25U. Functionally they are both rock solid stable and a joy to use. These days I lean more towards the S25 and really like the affordances and customization from One UI 7. More surprise and delight comes from Android for me, though I desperately want Apple to catch back up.
I would stay away from the $50 phones. Those are likely only made by welcome. And bad, seriously bad. With fake specifications. Not the kind we use in comparison to an iPhone etc.
I wouldn’t say at all that their overseas business is gone. 🤷♂️
I’m still using a base iPhone 11 as my main/only phone. The fact it still works well, still (just) lasts the whole day on one charge, and runs the latest iOS is very impressive.
I’m finally going to upgrade to one of the 17 models when they come out.
Same with my MacBook … I don’t see myself moving away from this to another OS or hardware manufacturer.
I’m finally going to upgrade to one of the 17 models when they come out.
Same with my MacBook … I don’t see myself moving away from this to another OS or hardware manufacturer.
I certainly agree with you regarding the Mac. I will never go to Windows or Chrome. My 2020 MacBook Air M1 does all I need and it is silent and cool. Cook has done a lot wrong but did well with the Apple chips.
China has lot better quality items available to them. If you go to China, many local brands are expensive. Some of them are more expensive than US/EU brands and they last long.
Well, in this case even more so between the two platforms you can make a comparison, but I believe software optimization still has an advantage on iOS. I currently use iPhone and iPad because of the music apps that do not exist on Android (in this specific case a pipe organ simulator), otherwise I think I would be able to use only a high-end Android. (For iPad 6th generation, which I actually only use as a sheet music reader, wanting a 13-inch tablet I wonder if the Air makes sense, given that the app I use is multiplatform and the Samsung equivalent costs exactly half the price here, since I do not need additional power...) In Italy, in the rural areas where I live, probably because of the network, the modem does not show any limitations, so I do not consider it a decisive point.
In China, the main thing is that the phone can run WeChat. So whether it’s Android, iOS, or HarmonyOS doesn’t really matter. A lot of people also switch phones more often than in Europe or the US. So why buy an iPhone that’s looked the same for like six years, when there are so many other cool options out there? What does the iPhone really have that an Android phone doesn’t—especially when you can get one for half the price? People talk about the Apple ecosystem, but honestly, most folks in Asia just use a smartphone for everything and don’t even need the rest of that setup.
We never see the sales figures by model by country (as far as I am aware) but I would think that the SE line was not too popular in Asia. As many people in that region have a phone as their only device, they prefer a large screen model. Just my opinion of course.
Except they do as they are made in a special zone, meaning any iPhone (or anything made inside for that matter) moving out of that zone will be subject to tax tariff and whatnot, and with 125% tariff today, iPhone is practically impossible to be sold in China no matter to whom, and Apple will definitely lose Chinese market soon if tariff is not reversed or reduced.
People aren’t saying Apple are bad
What it does say is it’s not as easy in china for them
I actually agree with you that it probably kind of comes down to one of these factors when you compare the iPhone to other devices in china
Some of these other devices are probably better than it when you strip away the ecosystem
So that’s probably one of the issues Apple face in china
As a fan of tech in general I like that numerous companies are pushing boundaries and making things almost unimaginable 10 years ago, but with all tech I use the thinking 'does it work for me?'. It's why I'm happy with my iPhone 13MP. Runs smoothly, takes great photos. We're in the luxury position of letting everyone else innovate and then we can pick and choose when we want to have something new.
Hardware is largely irrelevant for smartphones these days. I view my smartphone buying like a utility bill, it is almost impossible to participate in society without a smartphone, but almost any smartphone is ‘good enough’ for this.
The reason I still buy iPhones is because of software support, the ecosystem, the privacy focus and the excellent build quality.
But I’m surprised the smartphone market is still doing so well in China considering what’s been happening to their economy the last few years.
The reason I still buy iPhones is because of software support, the ecosystem, the privacy focus and the excellent build quality.
But I’m surprised the smartphone market is still doing so well in China considering what’s been happening to their economy the last few years.
Yes but according to reports most Chinese people change their smartphone every 2 to 3 years so long software support is not really a factor.
Plus when you factor in the Apple ecosystem & privacy focus in china it’s not that big a factor probably when purchasing an iPhone in china