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I'm in the middle of having a home loan approved, so as soon as the sales rep told me she was going to perform a credit pull, I cancelled the transaction and headed for the door. I usually have no issue with someone doing an occasional credit pull, but this is absolutely a no go.
 
Do you mean out of date in comparison to your cell phone address or billing address?

My DL is several apartments behind my current but I never update it as long as I stay in the same county/state.

Haven't read the entire thread but I was a little miffed that I wasn't able to use this program because the address on my driver's license is out of date. Pretty silly as I haven't had that up to date for over 10 years and I've never had a problem with credit anywhere else.
 
I'm in the middle of having a home loan approved, so as soon as the sales rep told me she was going to perform a credit pull, I cancelled the transaction and headed for the door. I usually have no issue with someone doing an occasional credit pull, but this is absolutely a no go.

I'm right there with you. I have a very good credit score, but taking a hard pull inquiry for a program like this is an absolute deal breaker for me. I would much prefer to just pay outright.
 
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Do you mean out of date in comparison to your cell phone address or billing address?

My DL is several apartments behind my current but I never update it as long as I stay in the same county/state.
They said your DL address has to match the address on the credit card account you're using and the address on your Apple ID.
 
What exactly is a "hard" and "soft" inquiry?
I've never heard of these terms.
Please explain what they are.
 
Nope. You would just get the trade-in value on a gift card.
Has this been confirmed? I spoke to two Apple Online Store reps a week ago and they both said you can apply the credit to the payments. One even said the store would issue a credit to the card you've set to make payments.

It's hard for me to imagine they wouldn't account for people who would want to trade their current phones and join the Upgrade Program.

My appointment is in like a half hour, so I guess I'll find out soon.
 
What exactly is a "hard" and "soft" inquiry?
I've never heard of these terms.
Please explain what they are.

Basically a Hard Inquiry is where a creditor pulls your credit, and codes the inquiry in such a way that it shows on your credit report that an inquiry was done by a creditor, for the purpose of extending credit. A hard inquiry is generally not favorable, because depending on the persons credit profile it will hurt the score for about a year, but remain visible for two years. The more hard inquiries a person has, no bueno. A Soft Inquiry is also where a creditor pulls your credit, but they code it in such a way that it only shows on the report as visible to you and has no impact on credit score at all. Creditors that pull your credit in the future do not see these.

Usually when new credit is extended, it is typically a hard inquiry. Soft inquiries are very typical by your current creditors to make sure there are no issues. As an example, it is not uncommon for credit card companies to do soft inquires on people quite often to see how much debt someone has and payment history on other accounts.
 
Has this been confirmed? I spoke to two Apple Online Store reps a week ago and they both said you can apply the credit to the payments. One even said the store would issue a credit to the card you've set to make payments.

It's hard for me to imagine they wouldn't account for people who would want to trade their current phones and join the Upgrade Program.

My appointment is in like a half hour, so I guess I'll find out soon.

Yeah, you can apply the credit to it, through away your money, and still make the same payment per month as everyone else.
 
My credit score is 775 and got declined. Think it was an issue with the system like people have said. Ended up financing the phone through T-Mobile... should I return the phone and have them try again?
Apple Store offer tmobile financing options?
 
Same here. I'm up to 640-650 and continuing to work hard to get to 700 land.

I'm curious if mid 600's are approved. I was approved for AT&T Next but I think since I've been a customer for over 15 years that the credit score may not count as much.
Correct we don't even pull your credit at that point, use your payment history as a determining factor.
Where'd you see the thread?
 
The upgrade program went smooth for me. Only issue was the activation part at the end. Not sure who's end always at fault but it got resolved.

Hopefully the credit check is just a soft pull. =\
 
I used the iPhone Upgrade Program this morning. All went very smoothly except I was not able to use my business AMEX card for the purchase / installment plan. When we first tried it, the Apple Store employee told me it was an issue with my card, not with my credit check. So I called AMEX and they told me I was the 5th person to call in the last few minutes with the same problem.

I can't say for sure if the hangup was an AMEX thing or if it's on Apple's end by not allowing business cards of any kind. AMEX told me there was nothing they could do on their end because of the way the transaction was being processed by Apple. They said on their end, it looks like Apple is trying to process it as a cash withdrawal and they said that's a no-go. It was very strange. I ended up just running the transactions on my personal credit card.

I am a small business owner, and the AMEX has my name on it and is tied to my credit and my SSN, but it was still a no-go. It's almost as if the process of the credit check is tied to the verification of using a personal credit card as well. I hope to be able to login and switch the monthly payments to my business card, but we'll see. My personal credit card now has two charges, one each for the two phones' first installments plus tax.

The bottom of the receipt states "LOAN IS WITH CITIZENS ONE. For information on your loan, see www.citizensoneloan.com." So this is a very unique transaction. You're basically getting a loan, then paying off that loan with your credit card.

FWIW, I have very good credit and purchased a 6S+ 128 and a 6S 128 on Verizon, while in the middle of our two-year contract. No problems on any of those fronts, and no upgrade charges.
 
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Basically a Hard Inquiry is where a creditor pulls your credit, and codes the inquiry in such a way that it shows on your credit report that an inquiry was done by a creditor, for the purpose of extending credit. A hard inquiry is generally not favorable, because depending on the persons credit profile it will hurt the score for about a year, but remain visible for two years. The more hard inquiries a person has, no bueno. A Soft Inquiry is also where a creditor pulls your credit, but they code it in such a way that it only shows on the report as visible to you and has no impact on credit score at all. Creditors that pull your credit in the future do not see these.

Usually when new credit is extended, it is typically a hard inquiry. Soft inquiries are very typical by your current creditors to make sure there are no issues. As an example, it is not uncommon for credit card companies to do soft inquires on people quite often to see how much debt someone has and payment history on other accounts.

This does make me wonder if in the future people who are re-enrolling in the program will get a soft pull. This may be a hard pull for all first-timers because none of us are in the system for this bank through Apple's program yet, but maybe if we're already in the system next year it will be a soft pull. Just conjecture on my part.
 
Assuming this is a hard pull, is this going to happen every year?

Very good point. I would sure hope that it is a soft pull when re-new'ing. It would be horrible to ding people with a new HP every year, in my opinion.
 
I arrived at the Apple Store today at 8am for my iPhone Upgrade Program reservation. When the store opened at 8am I went right inside. They had a separate line for people with reservations. This made if very easy to just show up and go in without having to deal with the other very long line.

I went inside, they grabbed my iPhone from the back and started the process. It was very easy. Scanned my phone, ran a soft credit check, had me agree to four different terms of service (two Apple and two from the bank doing the loan for the program) and then ran my credit card to charge the Tax and first payment.

I actually really like that they charged the first payment now as you need 12 payments before you can upgrade again. This makes next September prime for upgrading. That was it. form the time I went into the Apple Store and left only took 20min.

The only information i had to bring in was my ID and a Major credit card (visa, master card, amex ect..)

Had to finally de-lurk to reply! This was my literal exact experience and I'm really sad to hear the process hasn't been great for some others. Makes sense that it's a system error for those of you with great/amazing credit.

I was approved right away. By no means do I have stellar credit either, in fact it's pretty low. I think it honestly depends on the card used for purchase and any info tied to that card. I used my Apple Rewards Barclaycard Visa and everything went off without a hitch.

Got my iPhone 6S Plus 128GB Space Grey in my possession now and man is it a beauty! :D

**ETA: I am also an AT&T customer with a grandfathered unlimited data plan. No issues switching over and no hidden fees.
 
I tried to do the upgrade program through T-Mobile and as usual, their systems were all screwy and my Apple Rep spent an hour trying to get it to process. He was on the phone with them and kept getting disconnected. I finally gave up and just put it on a credit card. Typical T-Mobile. I have to ask myself why I continue with them.
 
Question
Are they going to charge the CC I supplied each month for the monthly payment or just the taxes and first month payment with each monthly payment after that being billed to me through the mail?
 
My experience was seamless. My appt. was for 11:30AM CST and got in at 11:35-11:40 and was out in about 10 mins. I wasn't worried about the credit part, but did check Credit Karma (showed 609). I'm happy. Just thought I would share.
 
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