This has nothing to do with carriers. This is Apple's own financing plan. The requirement to activate with a carrier is Apple's and the banks doing, not the carriers.
Why would the bank care so long as you're paying the bill? As a matter of law, the lien holder doesn't own the phone. Their only recourse is to sue and get a judgment for the amount owed. I supposed they could try to repossess the collateral too, but that's usually not worth it on small items like phones.If not, you could buy the phone through this program with no interest and nothing down, sell it at a profit, and have a 24 month interest free loan from them. Requiring the purchaser to activate it discourages that.
Makes sense to use it as a deterrent. If you look at any of the promotional information, the email I received when I reserved, or the T&C page it says nothing about checking upgrade eligibility.
Nobody knows for sure. Some Apple customer service people have said MVNO and prepaid are ok, but whether that's going to be the official line on the 25th remains to be seen.So, if you have two open lines with ATT out of contract, can you use that as proof that you have an account and put your sim in? Or are they saying you have to activate a new line with a carrier?
Why would the bank care so long as you're paying the bill? As a matter of law, the lien holder doesn't own the phone. Their only recourse is to sue and get a judgment for the amount owed. I supposed they could try to repossess the collateral too, but that's usually not worth it on small items like phones.
So, if you have two open lines with ATT out of contract, can you use that as proof that you have an account and put your sim in? Or are they saying you have to activate a new line with a carrier?
PIN debit and debit-as-Visa are different things. They could just mean they don't accept PIN debit because I don't think you can have recurring charges on PIN debit.
I do the same thing, but the service providers treat the card as a credit card not PIN debit.Well, I can run mine through as a debit (using a pin) or as a credit (where you sign). Netflix has recurring charges on it, our car insurance and even bills with auto pay.
That is my assumption that it is accepted anywhere visa is accepted.That should be fine. If it's got a visa symbol on it I'd assume you're good to go.
I'm wondering about this, too. Could be because their supply chain is so unpredictable that they don't want to get into making future appointments? Every model/carrier I was interested in was sold out for 09/25 appointments and I'm like why can't I make an appointment for a few days later? Makes me wonder if the Upgrade Program is a Day 1 special or something.
Made an appointment for 9/25 at 9:30am twice with the iPhone app and got the confirmation screen which I saved. But no email, and that screen shot gives no personal identifying info that it was my reservation. Seems very strange and doesn't give me much confidence that I have an actual appointment.
Is it just me or is this upgrade program too good to be true? I still have yet to see any downsides other than a possible infinite monthly bill.
1. Starting with the 4S we were keen on trading in our iPhones to get money for new iPhones. We didn't care that we weren't getting top dollar, we liked the convienence.
2. With the fiasco of no subsidized pricing offered by Apple that left us in a bind. So I'll sell one of my 5S to a friend and give the other to my dad I think.
3. With IUP, they take our old phones from us and essentially give us $540 dollars remaining on the phone balance.
What I mean is this:
If the iPhone 6S Plus 128gb with AppleCare+ is $1078, you only need to make $539 dollars of payments before you can get a new iPhone.
This means next year you can get a new iPhone.
The downside is a monthly bill and $450 extra dollars in a calendar year no matter how you look at it. if you do 2 year contract you are stuck with iPhone 6S next year but don't have the bill.
I'm about to cancel my AT&T 2yr contract preorder and go for this. I have both right now. Reservation for IUP and my AT&T preorder.
My wife likes a new iPhone every year and she is leaning towards this too. It seems to make the most sense.
The fine print for the upgrade program specifically says that you need to have service with AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, or T-Mobile.Nobody knows for sure. Some Apple customer service people have said MVNO and prepaid are ok, but whether that's going to be the official line on the 25th remains to be seen.
I think its a little naive to think that the carriers aren't involved. Apparently Apple still needs to placate them, otherwise the sim-free unlocked version would be available already. Apple delayed it until Jan 2015 for the iPhone 6, and I expect the same thing for the 6s.This has nothing to do with carriers. This is Apple's own financing plan. The requirement to activate with a carrier is Apple's and the banks doing, not the carriers.
All phones bought with Apple Upgrade are unlocked, if not sim-free. I would argue that service with Cricket is service with AT&T (or Boost/Sprint etc).I think its a little naive to think that the carriers aren't involved. Apparently Apple still needs to placate them, otherwise the sim-free unlocked version would be available already. Apple delayed it until Jan 2015 for the iPhone 6, and I expect the same thing for the 6s.
I think its a little naive to think that the carriers aren't involved. Apparently Apple still needs to placate them, otherwise the sim-free unlocked version would be available already. Apple delayed it until Jan 2015 for the iPhone 6, and I expect the same thing for the 6s.
Good luck arguing that. It doesn't say activation with any MVNO or any carrier. It specifically lists the big 4 US providers.All phones bought with Apple Upgrade are unlocked, if not sim-free. I would argue that service with Cricket is service with AT&T (or Boost/Sprint etc).
Made an appointment for 9/25 at 9:30am twice with the iPhone app and got the confirmation screen which I saved. But no email, and that screen shot gives no personal identifying info that it was my reservation. Seems very strange and doesn't give me much confidence that I have an actual appointment.
They have have had a contract-free option on the site since 12:01 yesterday.I think its a little naive to think that the carriers aren't involved. Apparently Apple still needs to placate them, otherwise the sim-free unlocked version would be available already. Apple delayed it until Jan 2015 for the iPhone 6, and I expect the same thing for the 6s.