Verizon definitely does not charge you simply for throwing your old SIM in a new device. It's when you activate a new SIM with them that you get charged, even if that new SIM is on an existing line.
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iPhone Upgrade Program [MERGED]
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http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/21/9011255/att-raising-activation-fees-august-1
"Starting on (August) 1st, AT&T will charge all new Next customers a $15 activation fee whenever they get a new phone. That same $15 rate applies if you bring your own smartphone compatible with AT&T's network and start a new, contract-free line of service with the carrier. In a statement to The Verge, the company was quick to note that existing Next customers — and those who sign up before August 1st — won't be subject to the fees "at this time."
Let me remove the confusion for everyone. Forget about what the reps have told you. AT&T Reps are the dumbest in the industry.
New AT&T Customers = $15 Fee
AT&T customers who upgrade to Next or purchase a new Next plan = $15
BYOD for existing AT&T customer = $0
Existing AT&T customers purchasing via Apple’s upgrade promo (aka BYOD) = $0
Next is a program provided by AT&T
Apple’s upgrade program is provided by Apple.
New AT&T Customers = $15 Fee
AT&T customers who upgrade to Next or purchase a new Next plan = $15
BYOD for existing AT&T customer = $0
Existing AT&T customers purchasing via Apple’s upgrade promo (aka BYOD) = $0
Next is a program provided by AT&T
Apple’s upgrade program is provided by Apple.
Showing my ignorance again. How does one replace a SIM on a Verizon phone? And if I'm looking to sell that phone, is it then...SIMless?
edited: my understanding was that Verizon phones (which my 5 is) don't have SIM cards.
This link shows you how to remove the SIM card.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-64918/
If that's true, I don't think it was Apple's mistake - the fee message was clearly being fed from the AT&T side.
Right but they are also saying this to people who aren't using the Upgrade Program.
First, that's not AT&T stating anything. That's The Verge writing an article.
This only pertains to customers on "Next" plans and/or ordering new lines of service. What I was talking about is that the fee is apparently being charged to customers who buy a 6S outright to use on an existing line. So in cases where there's no subsidy, no new SIM, no new line, nothing - AT&T (apparently) believes it is entitled to $15. That's something new.
so according to your word i will be charged $15 when i activate 6s plus on my Next line!
Agree. I sold my iphone 6 plus august 20th. Went to att store to get micro sim so I can use my spare lg g3 for the next month. No bogus $15 charge.
People just getting confused with this $15 charge. Its for next customers.
However one thing that needs to be clarified is new line of activation. Usually it's been $40 to start a new line. When att had next promo. They said they would waived new line next activations. We are talking brand new lines. But that was only with promo. Or else people would start and cancel lines at will.
This guy's right we do charge $15 for next or BYOD upgrades/activations....
If it's a next upgrade and you have an existing or have had a next on your line then we won't charge the $15 fee (for now). It's determined on a per line bases.
So if you activate a new line on next or byod then it will be subject to new rules regardless of the status of other lines on same account. ie... new fees
It's $45 for 2 year upgrade or activations.
So if I'm reading this right..
If I use the AUP to get 2 iPhones and they are treated as BYOD to two already existing ATT lines, I should be charged $30, correct?
BL.
AT&T still has to do work when you buy a new phone - change the EIN associated with number, change the billing to new phone etc. Not saying it is worth (although $15 isn't bad) but even when you buy phone elsewhere they do have to do work. And they do lose profit on the phone sale.
If they do charge for BYOD activations, the loophole might be using your old SIM card (which means nothing is activated)
They don't have to change anything with billing. I don't know what EIN stands for in this context. ICCIDs, IMEIs, etc would all be automate.d
They don't have to change anything with billing. I don't know what EIN stands for in this context. ICCIDs, IMEIs, etc would all be automate.d
Depending.. doesn't the 5 and newer use a microSIM? If so, that kills anyone coming up from something older (read: 4S).
BL.
Nanosim, but yes.
You can cut the SIM down, though I don't know if the LTE SIMs are different
Anytime a new line is activated it will trigger a $15 fee and a sim on an existing line can't be used on another line.