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No. What I was trying to say is that constrained RAM is planned obsolescence.
It performs well when it is released but gets slow shortly after. The 5s or 6 are best examples
I have the 6 and I do not see any issues in speed. I always update about a week into a release. Update all my apps. I have a iPad Air which is working great as well. Has mostly streaming and ebook software.
 
I have the 6 and I do not see any issues in speed. I always update about a week into a release. Update all my apps. I have a iPad Air which is working great as well. Has mostly streaming and ebook software.
Just don’t use a 7 Plus or new iPad, comparing iOS 11 on them vs yours. If you do, then you’ll realize what you’re missing.

Mind you, streaming and eBook software aren’t particularly taxing.
 
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But seriously...

Is 3GB "enough"? Maybe. My 6 Plus runs like a dog, but then again it's time for new iPhones to be announced so it's doing its obligatory slowdown.

Keep in mind, Apple is not building these things to last. Putting in 6GB if it only "needs" 3 to make sure it runs well for the next 3 years does not mesh with their marketing strategy. Aka Phil "I like a new iPhone every year" Schiller.
 
Daring Fireball has confirmed it was intentional.

He actually wrote something along the lines of "nearly certain"

But would someone explain why anyone at Apple would risk heir job, even their career, leaking this information only a day or two before the event?! They are anonymous, so they get no 15 minutes of fame. None of the "rags" involved are in the business of paying for leaks (as far as I know) and, even if they were, they don't have enough money to make it worthwhile to someone to risk their livelihood.

I'm also appalled by the ethics of the developer and the tech sites for publishing the information. Does it really get them that much more advertising revenue? At what cost to their integrity?! It's not as if these were State secrets or evidence of hidden collusion with a foreign government. Plus, it was all coming out in a couple of days, anyway.

At one level, they've done a disservice to the Mac community. Is their role to scoop Apple and pass along leaks? Or, is it to be there with deep analysis and insight?! They could have taken the information and used it to prep in- depth stories, in advance, and not spoil the surprise!
 
He actually wrote something along the lines of "nearly certain"

But would someone explain why anyone at Apple would risk heir job, even their career, leaking this information only a day or two before the event?! They are anonymous, so they get no 15 minutes of fame. None of the "rags" involved are in the business of paying for leaks (as far as I know) and, even if they were, they don't have enough money to make it worthwhile to someone to risk their livelihood.

I'm also appalled by the ethics of the developer and the tech sites for publishing the information. Does it really get them that much more advertising revenue? At what cost to their integrity?! It's not as if these were State secrets or evidence of hidden collusion with a foreign government. Plus, it was all coming out in a couple of days, anyway.

At one level, they've done a disservice to the Mac community. Is their role to scoop Apple and pass along leaks? Or, is it to be there with deep analysis and insight?! They could have taken the information and used it to prep in- depth stories, in advance, and not spoil the surprise!
I still wonder who pointed me in the right direction of the G5 970MP, when nobody else knew about it. I was able to get my 15 minutes of fame, but partially because some anonymous person with inside info hinted heavily where to look. I've often wondered if it was somebody inside Apple. (Also, why me? Well, I had an Apple blog at the time, and wrote a lot about my predictions about upcoming releases, so maybe s/he figured I was as good a person to leak too as anyone.) I have never heard from that person again.
 
He actually wrote something along the lines of "nearly certain"

But would someone explain why anyone at Apple would risk heir job, even their career, leaking this information only a day or two before the event?! They are anonymous, so they get no 15 minutes of fame. None of the "rags" involved are in the business of paying for leaks (as far as I know) and, even if they were, they don't have enough money to make it worthwhile to someone to risk their livelihood.

I'm also appalled by the ethics of the developer and the tech sites for publishing the information. Does it really get them that much more advertising revenue? At what cost to their integrity?! It's not as if these were State secrets or evidence of hidden collusion with a foreign government. Plus, it was all coming out in a couple of days, anyway.

At one level, they've done a disservice to the Mac community. Is their role to scoop Apple and pass along leaks? Or, is it to be there with deep analysis and insight?! They could have taken the information and used it to prep in- depth stories, in advance, and not spoil the surprise!

You can ask the same question why some people conduct espionage against their own country. Some do it for free, others do it for small sums of money. Disaffection and grudges comes to mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motives_for_spying
 
I don't think Apple intentionally leaked anything. A lot of what you're saying might have been accidental or inadvertent, then was ripped apart by developers. This company is secretive as they are, I can't imagine they would allow this many intentional leaks in a short amount of time, which might be some of the biggest leaks we have ever seen for any iPhone. Furthermore, Apple is all about security and confidentiality, I don't believe this company ever intended the majority of those leaks to be surfaced within a few short days of the keynote.

True, but don't you think that it is kind of weird that even when they follow the highest standards around security and confidentiality they didn't password protected such an integral part of their most important product in years? These files were not even behind a VPN, that's incredibly strange, we're talking about first level basic protection here.
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That's a bit concerning, would expect 4 GB on a $1K+ iPhone X. Mainly concerned about future viability, as RAM continues to be the biggest handicap for older devices like the iPhone 6, which was given the same 1 GB as the iPhone 5s before it - and that was one of the reasons I waited for the 6s, did not regret it.

The 6S was the last great iPhone, to this day.
 
True, but don't you think that it is kind of weird that even when they follow the highest standards around security and confidentiality they didn't password protected such an integral part of their most important product in years? These files were not even behind a VPN, that's incredibly strange, we're talking about first level basic protection here.

If the leak was malicious as reported, these security features would probably be turned off.

As we get close to launch, the security and confidentiality has to be relaxed for testing to occur.

We're down to T minus 7 days for launch. These GM builds may be for testing on production hardware. Apple employees need to test production iPhone 8 and X hardware using GM software. The update software process can't be password protected or behind a firewall. The experience has to be same as what a customer would experience.
 
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Apple’s never had a problem with ram. Their phones outperform every single android phone. See note 7 vs iphone 7+ And every other comparison video.
I read that snapdragon is just now catching up to apple A9 chip in single processing power. Not worried.
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The note 8 has 6gb of ram. I’m willing to bet that the new generation iphones will outperform it.
Consider that the iPhone 7 was released a few months later. The later released phone always has the advantages. My S7 edge outperforms our iPhone 6s.
 
True, but don't you think that it is kind of weird that even when they follow the highest standards around security and confidentiality they didn't password protected such an integral part of their most important product in years? These files were not even behind a VPN, that's incredibly strange, we're talking about first level basic protection here.

It's hard to say exactly how these leaks were exactly exposed or surfacing. But I still think Apple Values security and I believe it was never their intentions for this copious amount detailed information arising within days of the Keynote.
 
If the leak was malicious as reported, these security features would probably be turned off.

As we get close to launch, the security and confidentiality has to be relaxed for testing to occur.

We're down to T minus 7 days for launch. These GM builds may be for testing on production hardware. Apple employees need to test production iPhone 8 and X hardware using GM software. The update software process can't be password protected or behind a firewall. The experience has to be same as what a customer would experience.

I would expect them to be work within a Virtual Private Network, basic industry protocol. If you don't have access to this network, you don't need access to this files; only if you need access to this files, you get access to the network. No password protection or encryption of the files is necessary.

Simple security measures were never in place for this files, these were stored outside of the network and accessible to the public. That's really weird after all the security talk.
 
It's hard to say exactly how these leaks were exactly exposed or surfacing. But I still think Apple Values security and I believe it was never their intentions for this copious amount detailed information arising within days of the Keynote.

What no one has answered is how such a hypothetical "planned leak" would benefit Apple.

This leak deflated a lot of the hype and surprise and gives news coverage to MacRumors 9to5Mac instead of Apple. It gives the perception that Apple doesn't run a tight ship.

Was the iPhone X launch expected to be a forgettable event? Were tech columns providing more coverage in the last few weeks to LG than Apple? Is Apple planning on cutting advertising to iPhone? I bet hardly anyone could recognize a photo of Samsung's CEO compared to Tim Cook. This leak cost Apple the shock and awe factor that comes with each iPhone launch.
 
What no one has answered is how such a hypothetical "planned leak" would benefit Apple.

This leak deflated a lot of the hype and surprise and gives news coverage to MacRumors 9to5Mac instead of Apple. It gives the perception that Apple doesn't run a tight ship.

Was the iPhone X launch expected to be a forgettable event? Were tech columns providing more coverage in the last few weeks to LG than Apple? Is Apple planning on cutting advertising to iPhone? I bet hardly anyone could recognize a photo of Samsung's CEO compared to Tim Cook. This leak cost Apple the shock and awe factor that comes with each iPhone launch.

Actually, I think it creates a lot more hype, especially for people that do not follow rumour sites. This story is dominating the mainstream tech news cycles and obscuring the new phone releases happening these days. I'm sure they still have plenty of big surprises for tomorrow. If that's not the case, then you might be on to something.
 
I would expect them to be work within a Virtual Private Network, basic industry protocol. If you don't have access to this network, you don't need access to this files; only if you need access to this files, you get access to the network. No password protection or encryption of the files is necessary.

Simple security measures were never in place for this files, these were stored outside of the network and accessible to the public. That's really weird after all the security talk.

As I mentioned in my previous post, we are so close to launch, Apple needs to test production iPhone 8 and X hardware with GM software.

The entire update mechanism needs to be tested in the event iOS 11.01 is pushed on launch day. This means testing the entire OTA update process.

In theory, Apple could force this GM software to be behind VPN and password. They could even take it further by forcing updates offline. Testers would need to go to the Cupertino office and update via a Lightning cable only.

It's a compromise between security and fixing bugs.
 
This is it, I won't use the Internet until tomorrow.
There's not much left to spoil, lol. I kind of wish I could unsee everything until back before the HomePod firmware. It's one thing to read about rumors and conjecture. It's quite another to have Apple spill the beans about everything before the event because then there's nothing left to chance. Sucks the excitement right out of it.
 

Nope. You can't do split screen realtime multitasking on the iphone like this (Google Chrome and YouTube for example)

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Nope. You can't do split screen realtime multitasking on the iphone like this (Google Chrome and YouTube for example)

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And? That wasn't what was asked and what I responded to

Everyone stated that IOS is superior in RAM management but forget that there is not such thing is multi-task in IOS. That's why it is memory efficient. For android, it does have try multi-task where I can have you tube playing while texting, can you do this with IOS?


Instead of pointlessly wasting half your page you can put your video in PIP on the iPhone and you can indeed go split screen on iPad.

Care to try again?
 
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2Gb in 2017......smh

6GB and still slower than a 2016 iPhone 7......smh

Is 3GB "enough"? Maybe. My 6 Plus runs like a dog, but then again it's time for new iPhones to be announced so it's doing its obligatory slowdown.

Keep in mind, Apple is not building these things to last. Putting in 6GB if it only "needs" 3 to make sure it runs well for the next 3 years does not mesh with their marketing strategy. Aka Phil "I like a new iPhone every year" Schiller.

Your phone will be 3 years old. Android phones slow down within 6 months.

Everyone stated that IOS is superior in RAM management but forget that there is not such thing is multi-task in IOS. That's why it is memory efficient. For android, it does have try multi-task where I can have you tube playing while texting, can you do this with IOS?

It's been proven by Android Authority that iOS has a trick up its sleeve that Android doesn't have when it comes to memory management. iOS can compress background apps to 3% of it's original size, but on Android no compression is happening even though you're running 1 app at a time.

http://www.androidauthority.com/android-ios-ram-memory-usage-744848/

This is why iPads require more RAM for split screen.
 
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And? That wasn't what was asked and what I responded to

Instead of pointlessly wasting half your page you can put your video in PIP on the iPhone and you can indeed go split screen on iPad.

Care to try again?

I can put any app in PIP, resize the window and have a YouTube video playing over the top of a 3rd app on a phone with QHD resolution and not crappy HD it works. Care to try again ;-)

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