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Yes and I’m sure Apple has learnt from the Jetblack, 6S Plus Rose Gold and especially the AirPods. They are not stupid, they know this is their flagship product, they know they cannot risk the backlash as it will seriously hurt them.

Give Apple the benefit of the doubt until such time as they come out an official statement to advise of a short supply.

You cannot and should not take analysts word for it, even if they do happen to be right, they can also be completely wrong.

I’m not saying the iPhone X is not difficult to manufacture, I know it is difficult, but I also know Apple would have planned for this months in advance.

All I'm saying is that ship times are going to slip pretty quickly. I don't believe there's a "shortage", but Apple is likely going to sell every iPhone X that they make. There's a huge demand for the phone which obviously will exceed initial supply because Apple can't make an unlimited amount of phones.

They would never admit to there being a short/constrained supply anyway. They would just say that there's overwhelming demand and that they're manufacturing them as quickly as they can.

We'll see what happens.
 
Be interesting quarter for Cook, I think people are over the iPhone 6 four years later and holding out for the x, if he cannot sort of supplies fast, people who are pushed into next year will think twice dropping $1k with a new X out in September ....
 
If the majority of iPhone X ship in 2018, will we still the get another new iPhone in 2018 as well??

Is that a serious question? Lol of course a new iPhone will launch in 2018.

Apple will make and sell a lot of iPhone X this year and next. They know what they're doing.
 
Is that a serious question? Lol of course a new iPhone will launch in 2018.

Apple will make and sell a lot of iPhone X this year and next. They know what they're doing.

Why shouldn't it bee serious question? I can see a new product cycle for the high-end iPhone to begin now in october or november instead of september. Yea, it'll still be 2018, but anyway.
 
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Why shouldn't it bee serious question? I can see a new product cycle for the high-end iPhone to begin now in october or november instead of september. Yea, it'll still be 2018, but anyway.
That is would be reasonable, but I don't think so. I think Apple will return to it's September schedule as before. Apple's Q1 is the most important quarter for Apple. And launching the iPhone in this quarter would hit sales tremendously. And with Huawei and Google adopting an October release schedule it will be better for Apple to release them in September as before. I think the iPhone X will serve as an exception to the rule here.
 
You don't understand demand for iPhones. The bulk of iPhones are sold in the first quarter of the year after their release. Few new iPhones are sold in the last quarter of the year because everyone is waiting for the new version.

If they're going to sell 50 million iPhone Xs, they need to be able to produce ~25 million of them by December. They need to be producing over 750,000 iPhone Xs per day.

If they are currently producing no iPhone Xs per day or even 10,000 iPhone Xs per day, there is going to be 1 iPhone X for every 75 people that want to buy one.

Apple is on schedule for the most disastrous launch of an Apple product ever.

You hope...
 
I'm on the iPhone Upgrade Program too and honestly am just thinking of paying off the phone.

I have the 7 Plus 128GB and bought it September 21, 2016. I have a remaining balance of $500. I can sell my 7 Plus for like $700, use that to pay off the phone / close out the loan and have $200 leftover.

If iPhone Upgrade Program users don't have any kind of priority system, what's the point? I'll just re-enroll in the program when I preorder the X.
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I feel like the people that try and order the iPhone X after 15-30 minutes of the preorder going live will be waiting 1-2+ weeks for their units.

I try not to listen to analysts either, but the 7 Plus Jet Black was in short supply and so was the 6S Plus Rose Gold.

iPhone X is a totally different animal and for it to come out a whole month and change after iPhone 8 speaks to just how difficult it is to manufacture.
i think even after 3-5 mins after ordering you will be looking at 4 weeks at least
 
Anyone purchasing the X on launch day is just asking for trouble. For the first time ever, I believe Apple rushed this model into production too quickly and it will show with a myriad of problems.

I'm definitely going to be purchasing it, but not until mid-year 2018.
 
You don't understand demand for iPhones. The bulk of iPhones are sold in the first quarter of the year after their release. Few new iPhones are sold in the last quarter of the year because everyone is waiting for the new version.

If they're going to sell 50 million iPhone Xs, they need to be able to produce ~25 million of them by December. They need to be producing over 750,000 iPhone Xs per day.

If they are currently producing no iPhone Xs per day or even 10,000 iPhone Xs per day, there is going to be 1 iPhone X for every 75 people that want to buy one.

Apple is on schedule for the most disastrous launch of an Apple product ever.

You take what KGI reported for pure gold? The same guy who said that texting and calling would not be supported on the Apple Watch? And this guy here in this article without any track record?


I think we have to take all of this with a grain of salt. KGI knows a lot but he also gets a lot wrong. 10'000 pcs are not even a trail run. With 4 SKUs you would be looking at 2500 pcs per day per SKU. The other guy stated that they haven't even started, so he is clearly saying that KGI was wrong. So both reports contradict each other.


The only facts we have are;


- we know it's difficult to produce, like any other new flagship phone.

- the launch is later than expected, but that does NOT mean that there are difficulties with production and more of an intentional move by apple. But that is also not guaranteed.

- The launch will be happening in 55 countries. To compare: The iPhone 7 was initially launched with a first wave containing 28 countries. This means that this will be the biggest launch of an iPhone ever.


So there are several possibilities here;

- Apple is producing the phone as we speak and will have plenty in stock on launch. -> Unlikely, but not impossible based on the large first wave.

- Apple is not producing the phone and they will run into the worst launch ever with people ordering on the 27.10 at 9.02 European time and receiving 2018 as a delivery date. -> seems like the most unlikely case to me, given the large first wave, Apple's dependency on Q1 and holiday sales and only having to "reports" backing this theory up.

- Apple will have a pretty normal launch. We will have some initial stock to order for launch day, and it'll soon go up to 1-2 weeks, then 4-5 weeks and stay there until January. -> Most likely because of my reasons above and the fact that other releases were similar to that.
 
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Why shouldn't it bee serious question? I can see a new product cycle for the high-end iPhone to begin now in october or november instead of september. Yea, it'll still be 2018, but anyway.
Just like they did with the Apple Watch, AirPods, iPad and even the first iPhone, Apple announced those products weeks before they were avaiablr mainly to block competitors without canibalizing their own products.

Next year the iPhone x2? Will be announced and released in September, back to regular schedule
 
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Anyone purchasing the X on launch day is just asking for trouble. For the first time ever, I believe Apple rushed this model into production too quickly and it will show with a myriad of problems.

I'm definitely going to be purchasing it, but not until mid-year 2018.
That is why I hate reports like that. We get the notion that the product will be rushed but it won't be. If it really was rushed they would be launching it in a few countries at start. You are looking at the biggest launch ever.
Please take this and any other report with a grain of salt. Analysts want their 15 minutes of fame, too. Frankly speaking I am not even sure if the guy in the report knows what he is talking about.
 
Wow, they didn't even start making the phone yet, mind boggling. Seems like a screw up of epic proportions. Seems very unapple like imo.

I'm decided to skip this phone, there's definitely some things that are looking great about it, but overall I couldn't justify the price tag. I guess there will be one less person waking up at 3:00am to order it (me).
 
It took around 20 minutes for the popular models of 7/7+ to start slipping from release date delivery: https://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/09/iphone-7-pre-order-shipping-estimates-slipping/

Thank you! too much misinformation from people
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That is why I hate reports like that. We get the notion that the product will be rushed but it won't be. If it really was rushed they would be launching it in a few countries at start. You are looking at the biggest launch ever.
Please take this and any other report with a grain of salt. Analysts want their 15 minutes of fame, too. Frankly speaking I am not even sure if the guy in the report knows what he is talking about.
This!

No way in hell that production hasn't started yet.
 
For me it’s all about how Apple has set up phone storage and pricing tiers. I have a 128 GB 6s+ that I will be replacing. I don’t really care all that much about facial unlocking and animojis, etc. but the first consideration in my case is storage. Since there’s no 128 GB option for 8+, I have to opt in for 256 GB. That puts me within $200 of an iPhone X, and I’ll be damned if I forego the screen and formfactor for $200!
 
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This!

No way in hell that production hasn't started yet.
Thank you. My words exactly.

I belive KGI's report from ca. 2 weeks more because it makes more sense. They started production with 10000 pcs a day and are now ramping up. If someone thinks, that Foxconn is still producint 10'000 phones they would be mistaken. I think they are between 50'000 to 100'000 phones a day. Next week they double or triple that number. And then they have the rest of october to produce.
 
Just get an 8 plus people. They’re making me sick with the games. I’m sure they’re having a tough time, but they know what they’re doing.

The 8 is an amazing phone. Will have slightly better battery life. Plus if you upgrade now, your upgrade will be synced up with any yearly programs and you can save all the features for the 10s and be even more shocked cause by the time everyone has a X, it’ll be time to upgrade in 6-8 months again.

Your missing a screen, animojis, and a depth effect on the front cam (which won’t be nearly as good on the front until the 2nd iteration anyways).
8 plus
i think even after 3-5 mins after ordering you will be looking at 4 weeks at least
only a complete dip **** would pay 700$ for a used 7 plus
 
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I’m glad my 7plus is handling iOS 11 well. With these delays, the iPhone X basically is the 2018 release!
No touchID slow downs for you? I kept reading about introduced lag to it and have been scared to upgrade on the 7+, given that iOS 10 killed my 6+.
 
Apple saw what worked with Nintendo's NES Classic and Switch. I'm sure they are taking a page form them. Set a limit on what they want to sell and then artificially create a shortage on the device so it can sell like hot cakes.

Apple doesn't look to Nintendo for anything. They don't have to artificially create a shortage. There will be a shortage because demand would be greater than supply even if they started production two months ago. There is always a shortage at release of the iPhone. This is almost of a rehash of Steve Ballmer's stupid conjecture that "no one will pay $500 for a phone". Up until recently folks were wondering whether Apple could sell the X for $1000. Question answered. People want what they perceive to be the latest and greatest. I know a number of folks who have held off upgrading the their iPhone from iPhone 6 or earlier in anticipation of this phone. There is pent up demand for a flagship device.
 
So maybe when the X is available to order and estimates slip out to months, do you think the 8/8s that have been sitting quietly ignored on the shelves are going to start moving again?
 
I don’t suppose the first “Apple is doing this to create artificial demand” post is already up, is it?

This might be the first iPhone I wait to order and I’ve had them all since 2007.

Hurried production and HUGE expectation might lead to more defective units than normal. Might not.

But I’d like to see how it evolves over the first month or two.

Expectation leads to production delays?

Ok then...
 
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