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iPhone X screen quality?
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What's more conclusive than physical specs? X is lower ppi and brightness (thus lower specs/quality) All I am saying are these facts and nothing else.
If you want to debate subjective quality based on eye-balling the screen - then wait for those subjective you tube video reviews or appleinsider comparison.
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Ok so you basically made it all up.
Your calling the verge and TechCrunch subjective ?
Of course they are when they don’t fit with your narrative
Probably won’t get a super in-depth review of the display until anandtech and displaymate weigh-in. That will probably take a couple of weeks to a month.
I see.
To sum it up, you make up unsubstantiated claims about an unrelated product having an inferior display, and call reviewers who have reported otherwise biased.
What’s your agenda again?
Yes, you can't see pixels. But everything looks sharper and text is less fuzzy. And color seems more solid.
I love how everyone criticizes the screen quality before they even see one. Knowing Apple, the screen will be great.
Are we retrenching back to spec wars? Steve Jobs said it the best: products are packages of emphasis. Some things are done well, others aren't done as well, and some things aren't even done at all.
Apple has always understood the difference between features and benefits. Samsung can claim concrete specs and so can Apple. But what's the user experience like? What are the benefits? You can give Samsung a point on some rubric for device metrics for having a superior, on-paper spec, but the sharpest, the most brilliant display alone isn't utility. For me, Apple displays are far, far, far superior to any of Samsung's display for one reason: 3D Touch. For me, it's a very sticky feature. I knew this only when I went to use another phone and tried using 3D Touch on instinct and it didn't work. Muscled memorized and acclimated. My workflow on my iPhone is pretty dependent on 3D Touch.
Samsung has to focus on specs and gimmicks because they have no software portfolio. They have no real product lineup. Just ask yourself what are the crown jewels for these companies? For Apple, undoubtedly it's the software. iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and iLife, iWork, and pro apps.
My Korean family knows exactly what I'm talking about as a few of them actually work at Samsung (marketing, UI design, paper-pushing) and they all use iPhones.
Apple has always understood the difference between features and benefits. Samsung can claim concrete specs and so can Apple. But what's the user experience like? What are the benefits? You can give Samsung a point on some rubric for device metrics for having a superior, on-paper spec, but the sharpest, the most brilliant display alone isn't utility. For me, Apple displays are far, far, far superior to any of Samsung's display for one reason: 3D Touch. For me, it's a very sticky feature. I knew this only when I went to use another phone and tried using 3D Touch on instinct and it didn't work. Muscled memorized and acclimated. My workflow on my iPhone is pretty dependent on 3D Touch.
Samsung has to focus on specs and gimmicks because they have no software portfolio. They have no real product lineup. Just ask yourself what are the crown jewels for these companies? For Apple, undoubtedly it's the software. iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and iLife, iWork, and pro apps.
My Korean family knows exactly what I'm talking about as a few of them actually work at Samsung (marketing, UI design, paper-pushing) and they all use iPhones.
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Well that does make logical sense.
Apple currently holds a 15% market share of the smartphones in South Korea, that was reported in December 2016.
That number will go up once Apple opens up a retail store in Seoul come December, not to mention the iPhone X.
Hahaha, the "I'm hardcore, so I tweak a smartphone" argument is cute.
Remember a couple of years ago when you’d swear rooting your android phone was on par with inventing Skynet. Soooo techie that Bill Gates was jealous.
At any rate, nerding out on specs, and interesting R&D factoids is fun but don’t really impact my buying decision. Same is true most people.
I've used both the standard and the high resolution. When it's in HS it does eat the battery a bit more.
I can’t remember which mode was most accurate on the Note 3 back when I had it. I ended up calibrating it though.
This will tell us alot and i'm sure its going to be a great screen, the Colour calibration will be similar to that of the iP8 but with the deeper blacks that OLED provides. I will be surprised if it does not score extremely well in the displaymate review, it is a Samsung panel after all.
Looks like Tom’s guide added a bit more to their review.
On our lab tests, iPhone X’s display reproduced 128.6 percent of the color gamut, compared to 204.8 percent for the Note 8. The Pixel 2 XL hit 130 percent. But that's not the whole story.
Apple strived to achieve the most realistic colors possible, and that’s borne out by the iPhone X’s Delta-E reading of 0.27. (A score of 0 is perfect.)
With the True Tone on, that was improved to 0.21. That's slightly better than the Pixel 2 XL (0.26) and it beats the Note 8 (0.5).
The iPhone X's screen also gets very bright at 574 nits, which beats the Pixel 2 XL's 438 nits and Note 8's 408 nits. I especially noticed the brightness difference at wider viewing angles when we put the phones side by side.
There's more good news. The iPhone X’s screen (2436 x 1125 pixels) is sharper than the iPhone 8 Plus (1920 x 1080). Apple also includes HDR support for delivering more colors and better contrast in movies — including flicks in iTunes. And there’s TrueTone for automatically adjusting the white balance of the screen based on ambient lighting, which can make reading easier on the eyes.
On our lab tests, iPhone X’s display reproduced 128.6 percent of the color gamut, compared to 204.8 percent for the Note 8. The Pixel 2 XL hit 130 percent. But that's not the whole story.
Apple strived to achieve the most realistic colors possible, and that’s borne out by the iPhone X’s Delta-E reading of 0.27. (A score of 0 is perfect.)
With the True Tone on, that was improved to 0.21. That's slightly better than the Pixel 2 XL (0.26) and it beats the Note 8 (0.5).
The iPhone X's screen also gets very bright at 574 nits, which beats the Pixel 2 XL's 438 nits and Note 8's 408 nits. I especially noticed the brightness difference at wider viewing angles when we put the phones side by side.
There's more good news. The iPhone X’s screen (2436 x 1125 pixels) is sharper than the iPhone 8 Plus (1920 x 1080). Apple also includes HDR support for delivering more colors and better contrast in movies — including flicks in iTunes. And there’s TrueTone for automatically adjusting the white balance of the screen based on ambient lighting, which can make reading easier on the eyes.
Wow, i had no clue the pixel 2 xl color was so accurate, despite everyone claiming the colors are washed out, compared to other OLED displays. Then again, at the unveiling of the pixel 2, Google emphasized a good bit on the color accuracy of it's screens.
This is not right, see the below from displaymate concerning the Note 8.
"it can be adjusted to reach a maximum screenBrightness of up to 728 nits, which is impressive"
John Gruber's iPhone X (review unit) has a pink tint. Original tweet: https://twitter.com/gruber/status/925832305880522752
I had hoped that with OLED and True Tone that the bizarre tint variations would stop but I guess not. If I get one of these pink tints, most noticeable during the natural light of sunset, I am sending it back.
I'm also not sure what the point of "True Tone" is if the result is widely different per phone. Which of these two phones below has a "true tone?"
I had hoped that with OLED and True Tone that the bizarre tint variations would stop but I guess not. If I get one of these pink tints, most noticeable during the natural light of sunset, I am sending it back.
I'm also not sure what the point of "True Tone" is if the result is widely different per phone. Which of these two phones below has a "true tone?"
It looks like that notch leaked all over that screen!John Gruber's iPhone X (review unit) has a pink tint. Original tweet: https://twitter.com/gruber/status/925832305880522752
I had hoped that with OLED and True Tone that the bizarre tint variations would stop but I guess not. If I get one of these pink tints, most noticeable during the natural light of sunset, I am sending it back.
I'm also not sure what the point of "True Tone" is if the result is widely different per phone. Which of these two phones below has a "true tone?"
When showing off a picture of the screen with true tone on it would have been helpful to have a white sheet of paper to help gauge the lighting conditions better, not sure how much this really tells us.John Gruber's iPhone X (review unit) has a pink tint. Original tweet: https://twitter.com/gruber/status/925832305880522752
I had hoped that with OLED and True Tone that the bizarre tint variations would stop but I guess not. If I get one of these pink tints, most noticeable during the natural light of sunset, I am sending it back.
I'm also not sure what the point of "True Tone" is if the result is widely different per phone. Which of these two phones below has a "true tone?"