iPhone X Should Push Apple Ahead of Samsung as World's Largest Smartphone Maker

[dazed]

Can’t say I was too impressed with the X when I was playing around with one in the store. Maybe it will grow on me.

Not sure if it was the lighting in the store but the silver looked tacky. Almost like fake chrome hubcaps. Maybe the grey is better looking.

It probably didn’t help that it was next to the Samsung s8+ which I have always liked the look of.

 

[FFR]

I think you missed the point a little bit. Your status bar doesn't invade your screen, but your bezels do. For any given size phone, having the notch vs a full bezel offers a little more screen space. It's not grounds for an argument or anything, this is not an assault. Just pointing out that the notch is simply a partial bezel- it allows MORE screen than would've been available without it. Just like your 6.3" screen if it traded one of the full bezels for a notch with some screen area left on the sides. (I noticed you showed a screenshot but not a picture of your phone so I can't see what kind of phone you have).

I know what mean. The notch is actually a minimized bezel.

 

[newyorksole]

Good for Apple, not so good for customers. It means they're going to continue selling expensive phones since X is a success.
This year we have 8 and 8+ at the usual price points, while X is a more expensive model. But what if they sell their "base" new model at $999 in the future?

Usual price points? The 8 is $50 more and the 8+ is $30 more after already being up $20 last year.

 

[deanthedev]

You are still missing the point. It does not matter how powerful your phone is, if you don't have a good display, it's worthless. I understand the display was designed and optimized by Apple. But for a second, stop and think. Why did Apple go to Samsung to make the display? Aren't they working with LG to build their display. Why not LG, why Samsung.

I didn’t miss anything. The poster I replied to stated half the parts in an iPhone come from Samsung. That’s simply not true. Now you want to change the narrative to claim the screen is the most important part, thereby saying Samsung is mainly responsible for the iPhone X. Just like Qualcomm pretends the iPhone success is due to their modems.

The success of the iPhone is primarily due to Apple, not their suppliers.

 

[Mtmspa]

"Meanwhile, market research firm Canalys estimates the iPhone 8 Plus outpaced the iPhone 8 last quarter with shipments of 6.3 million units and 5.4 million units respectively. Canalys said the iPhone 8 Plus is the first Plus-sized iPhone to out-ship its smaller 4.7-inch sibling in a single quarter."

Please Apple, release a X (plus)... as I wrap up my X "rental" for a return this weekend. The skinny iPhone 5esque X screen is a deal breaker for many... Going back to a true plus sized phone...

Did you do a market research survey or are you just spewing your opinion? That’s what I thought.

 

[AdonisSMU]

The iPhone is just a slightly different configuration of a Samsung device.
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It quite rare to see iphone user.. unless contract telco

How do you know someone is on contract by looking at them?

I bought my phone with ApplePay. Both if my roommates bought Samsung Phones that locked them into unfavorable contract agreements and credit terms.

 

[gene731]

I absolutely love this new iPhone. It kinda made me fall in love with iPhones again. My 6 plus was getting stale.

My 6 plus was as well. I got iPhone 10 at local Apple store yesterday. Love it and faceiID works great. No complaints now especially since Apple finally fixed that bug when texting.

 

[convergent]

I know what mean. The notch is actually a minimized bezel.

And look at all that black space around the X's display. This is why no matter how many comparison pictures you post, the S8, S8+, and Note 8 have a larger screen to size ratio than the X. And they give it to you in a shape that doesn't drive a developer crazy to try and deal with. But I get it... you like the ears. You are happy, I am happy... life is good.

 

[sinsin07]

A lot of people are holding off buying until Apple put the missing chunk of the top screen back in.

Define ‘a lot’ and what’s your source for this?

Does imagination count (as a source)?

 

[Mirice99]

Samsung feels so insecure that they need to produce an ad to mock it.

How many years did Apple spend mocking PC's with their Mac vs PC commercials?

 

[ChrisChaval]

I’m not a stock guy or a business guy for that matter. But I highly doubt what you are saying is the truth. It’s hard for me to believe just because a company sells a lot of something else that they could stop selling a product that they sell probably more of and still be ok.

Nokia (Symbian)
BlackBerry , ex rim
Windows mobile , windows 10 (mobile)
...

Rip to all of them

Apple is way too reliant on just one product that might be obsolete tomorrow


And they know it


In the meantime ... they earn a couple of billion dollars ...

 

[Michael Scrip]

How many years did Apple spend mocking PC's with their Mac vs PC commercials?

The Mac was definitely in a defensive position against Windows PCs with something like 5% market share at the time.

So what does this say about Samsung? Are they actually in the defensive position against the iPhone?

Here's the funny thing: Samsung's bread-n-butter is budget Android phones... a product Apple doesn't even sell.

Samsung might want to instead focus on Huawei, Xiaomi, and everyone else who sells the couple hundred million Android phones every 3 months.

That's who Samsung should be worried about.

 

[FFR]

Does imagination count (as a source)?

He still thinks Nokia and Symbian will make a comeback.

 

[5105973]

I don’t think it’s just Apple being cheap when they only include the 5W charger; the vast majority of users only charge overnight, since they end the day at 20%-60% or whatever. So whether it takes a half hour or two hours to recharge, it’s irrelevant. When they wake up it’s at 100%.

For the 10 or 20% who charge during the day, it’s nice to have fast charging options, but why make everyone pay extra for it? And what waste of resources, to manufacture 150-175 million 12W or 29W or whatever chargers for people who won’t benefit from the faster charging at all. Plus, slow charging is better for the battery.

Good points. I shall be 25% less salty if and when I get an iPhone X it Xs. Ooh, iPhone Xs, I like the sound of that.

 

[FFR]

Good points. I shall be 25% less salty if and when I get an iPhone X it Xs. Ooh, iPhone Xs, I like the sound of that.

Are you getting one.

 

[KingslayerG5]

Most Galaxy S ever sold: S4, 80M
Most Galaxy Note ever sold: Note II, 30M

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones

S4 - 80M
S III - 60M
S7 - 55M
S II - 40M
Note II - 30M
S - 25M
S8 - 20M
S5 - 12M

The iPhone 6 & 6 Plus are the best-selling smartphones of all-time at 220M combined.

No matter if you believe Note series is the real Samsung flagship, they don't sell as well as their S line or iPhone. Last year, Note7 was only expected to sell 20M-25M. An iPhone 3Gs has outsold every Note model.

Other brands would die happy if their flagship could sell as well as a S8 at 20M. They would be lucky to hit 10M-15M. Most of Samsung's market share with mobile is with their midrangers similar to Nokia in the previous decade of dominance.

Samsung's market share peaked in 2013 until the Chinese undercut them in prices by 2014 with phones like the OnePlus One and flash sales from Xiaomi.

China's market is very volatile like runners passing on a baton. In 2013, it was Lenovo. In 2014, it was Xiaomi. In 2015, it was Huawei. Recently, it is OPPO. Most Chinese's taste with brands is like their food. They want it cheap, fast, and good!

The truest and best variants of Samsung flagships are made in South Korea. Exynos and Samsung camera sensor over Sony's. That's the truest Samsung where nearly everything is built in-house.

The iPhone X is assembled in China thanks to Foxconn. A patchwork of Asian-manufactured components from Samsung, Sony, and TSMC.

Whatever you do, Samsung's DNA is everywhere. I realized it as early as original Xbox when the Samsung disc trays were superior to the Phillips ones. My LG G3 S' internal storage is made by Samsung. My iPhone SE has the Samsung A9 chip.

Anytime you pick up an iPod, you thank the South Koreans for inventing the mp3 player. Samsung-made components were found in the very first iPhone. Anytime you admire the X's display and pick which storage capacity, remember they are made by Samsung.

Fun fact: GRiDPad was the first commercially available tablet released in 1989. Guess who manufactured it? Samsung.

Anytime you pick up your iPad Pro with Apple Pencil, just remember Samsung manufactured the very first tablet with stylus.

Samsung's DNA is everywhere even if you can't see it. From fish market started in 1938 (older than Sony) to market leader in multiple industries as of today.

It's not about debating. It's about educating.

Geonbae!
<3 South Koreans

 

[5105973]

Are you getting one.

No.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Good points. I shall be 25% less salty if and when I get an iPhone X it Xs. Ooh, iPhone Xs, I like the sound of that.

New and improved GrumpyMom, available soon with reduced sodium

 

[TimeSquareDesi]

buy apple stock

bestest advice.

 

[magbarn]

Did you do a market research survey or are you just spewing your opinion? That’s what I thought.

Spewing my opinion. We may be in the minority but there’s multiple others here who have come to the same conclusion.

 

[waquzy]

Putting them side by side in this picture does kinda show the S8 is the better looking phone, purely because it doesn't have that idiotic notch at the top. Renders the screen next to it pretty much useless.

I disagree, I think X is the best looking phone since iPhone 5, S8 doesn't even come close. However, S8 is definitely the best looking android phone though.

 

[tito2020]

Samsung feels so insecure that they need to produce an ad to mock it.

dont forget sammy made it happen

 

[5105973]

Are you getting one.

I get tempted though. My husband’s takes great pictures. Then I get salty about something. I don’t want to see Touch ID go away entirely the way the headphone jack did. It takes up space on an already packed chassis, so I can’t blame Apple for getting rid of it if they’ve got something more exciting that works well for people who don’t have evil lookalike siblings. But I will miss it from future Apple products.

 

[maikerukun]

Putting them side by side in this picture does kinda show the S8 is the better looking phone, purely because it doesn't have that idiotic notch at the top. Renders the screen next to it pretty much useless.

As someone that has had my iPhone X since launch, I honestly WANT every model to have that notch now. It feels great, it's iconic, and I park my assistance tab underneath it. It doesn't get in the way of literally anything, and is a beautiful part of the design. And while everyone may not agree, I know that virtually all of my personal friends that also have an X have expressed similar thoughts when we discuss what we do and don't like about the X.

For the record, the only thing I don't like so far is that I have to swipe down from the top right corner to physically see my battery percentage. I wish there was a way to trade the actual battery icon with the percentage counter, just swap their positions. Outside of that, it's been a perfect phone so far.

 

[AdonisSMU]

I disagree, I think X is the best looking phone since iPhone 5, S8 doesn't even come close. However, S8 is definitely the best looking android phone though.

Im sorry but the Note 7 is way better looking IMO.