iPhone XR iPhone XR in the shower

[44267547]

This is already tiresome, but I suppose I was asking for it. First tell me, does someone have “serious problems” if they use their phone to poke through their music library while folding their laundry—or to listen to a podcast while doing their dishes—or to create a reminder while brushing their teeth (before they forget the thought)? All short menial daily tasks. If these are acceptable examples of behavior to you, then tell me what is the specific fundamental difference about a shower? If you say it is because of the dangers of water and steam, well isn’t that the very question the OP was asking?

The way I see it, aside from all the rhetoric in this thread, when you consider a smart phone versus water, they don’t mix. And when people ask questions like ‘Should I take my iPhone in the shower with me’ , you will have to expect some of the responses that the OP was given in this thread, because the question posed seems highly logical to know the answer to something that you don’t need to ask in the first place.

There was another thread in the past, where someone asked ‘Should I take my iPhone scuba diving with me?’ Again, those types of threads are going to elicit responses that not everybody will have the most appropriate response, especially when it’s something that doesn’t require much logic when using an electronic device near water.

 

[radiologyman]

Steam has higher ability to penetrate electronics than just water

 

[subjonas]

Well, I see you couldn't just answer the question, so that's that.

Using a phone in the shower is stupid and the vast majority of humanity would tend to agree.

Lol ”I see you couldn’t just answer the question”—great irony there. You didn’t answer OP’s question nor did you answer mine. But yes, I did reluctantly answer your demanding question if you cared to read it.

Your opinion is noted, but it doesn’t help the OP in any way.

The way I see it, aside from all the rhetoric in this thread, when you consider a smart phone versus water, they don’t mix. And when people ask questions like ‘Should I take my iPhone in the shower with me’ , you will have to expect some of the responses that the OP was givenin this thread, because the question posed seems highly logical to know the answer to something that you don’t need to ask in the first place.

There was another thread in the past, where someone asked ‘Should I take my iPhone scuba diving with me?’ Again, those types of threads are going to elicit responses that not everybody will have the most appropriate response, especially when it’s something that doesn’t require much logic when using an electronic device near water.

Considering iPhones are shown getting very wet in commercials, I think OP’s is a fair question.

 

[44267547]

Considering iPhones are shown getting very wet in commercials, I think OP’s is a fair question.

And I don’t disagree, because part of that is the consumer generally doesn’t understand what water resistant really means to begin with, as tech enthusiasts on here, we do for the _most_ part, but average consumers might think it’s ‘waterproof’ where it won’t damage the phone. So yes, it is partially the manufacturers who does not properly market the phone the way they should, to have a better understanding for what Water resistance really is to the average consumer.

 

[nviz22]

Not trying to condone risky ideas, but I think Apple and other OEMs should be held more accountable for using IP ratings on their products. They should have more liability for "water resistance" because it is advertised as a feature. The current warranty coverage, at least in the US, allows cop-outs and shifts the blame to the end user.

 

[I7guy]

Not trying to condone risky ideas, but I think Apple and other OEMs should be held more accountable for using IP ratings on their products. They should have more liability for "water resistance" because it is advertised as a feature. The current warranty coverage, at least in the US, allows cop-outs and shifts the blame to the end user.

Most of us (I hope, see thread title) can understand why water damage isn’t covered. It sounds good to hold them accountable, but the idea of some water resistance benefits everybody.

Why tempt fate is beyond me.

 

[CreepyAF]

i used to watch the news in the shower on my iphone 7, which was supposedly water proof. eventually, moisture got inside and i could see water droplets behind the camera lens. rice did not work. eventually it dried up, but the screen became yellowish at that location. luckily, i was able to trade it in and get the iphone X. i do not take the phone into the shower anymore.

 

[nviz22]

Most of us (I hope, see thread title) can understand why water damage isn’t covered. It sounds good to hold them accountable, but the idea of some water resistance benefits everybody.

Why tempt fate is beyond me.

Which is why I wrote I am not trying to condone risky ideas. I just want higher accountability.

 

[I7guy]

Which is why I wrote I am not trying to condone risky ideas. I just want higher accountability.

I do not think higher accountability will happen because these phones aren’t waterproof.

 

[itsmilo]

I got insurance on my iPhone Max so I used mine to take videos and FaceTime people in the middle of the ocean of Hawaii without any issue whatsoever.

 

[HEK]

This is already tiresome, but I suppose I was asking for it. First tell me, does someone have “serious problems” if they use their phone to poke through their music library while folding their laundry—or to listen to a podcast while doing their dishes—or to create a reminder while brushing their teeth (before they forget the thought)? All short menial daily tasks. If these are acceptable examples of behavior to you, then tell me what is the specific fundamental difference about a shower? If you say it is because of the dangers of water and steam, well isn’t that the very question the OP was asking?

So you are making a case for showering with phone because someone wants to listen to music?

First off shouldn’t a person use both hands when washing themselves. Phone does not soap you up well.

Second, when I shower and listen to music I leave phone on counter with volume up. If that’s not loud enough then wear AirPods in shower.

I know they are not water resistant, that’s what plastic bag is for. Put AirPods in ears, turn on music, place plastic bag over head, secure around neck.

Great music experience and added bonus won’t see as many weird threads any more.

Besides if something unfortunate happens is responsibility of plastic bag manufacturer. Did they have vent holes in plastic bag, or print label on bag warning against such use, In four languages and Braille.

 

[44267547]

i used to watch the news in the shower on my iphone 7, which was supposedly water proof. eventually, moisture got inside and i could see water droplets behind the camera lens. rice did not work. eventually it dried up, but the screen became yellowish at that location. luckily, i was able to trade it in and get the iphone X. i do not take the phone into the shower anymore.

Rice is a myth, it does not work. The suggestion that I have made in the past, is if you use the silica packets that you find in shoeboxes that absorb moisture, you can purchase those online or even be found in local retail stores, where they do absorb moisture at a far greater rate.

 

[CreepyAF]

Rice is a myth, it does not work. The suggestion that I have made in the past, is if you use the silica packets that you find in shoeboxes that absorb moisture, you can purchase those online or even be found in local retail stores, where they do absorb moisture at a far greater rate.

yes, i learned that the hard way. bought instant rice while vacationing in dubrovnik and it helped 0%. now i just dont get my phone wet.

 

[HEK]

yes, i learned that the hard way. bought instant rice while vacationing in dubrovnik and it helped 0%. now i just dont get my phone wet.

Not getting phone wet.......works every time. Who knew?

 

[subjonas]

And I don’t disagree, because part of that is the consumer generally doesn’t understand what water resistant really means to begin with, as tech enthusiasts on here, we do for the _most_ part, but average consumers might think it’s ‘waterproof’ where it won’t damage the phone. So yes, it is partially the manufacturers who does not properly market the phone the way they should, to have a better understanding for what Water resistance really is to the average consumer.

I agree, some here are coming down hard on the OP for simply not knowing what they know (overly harshly imo). But many of the reactions here stem from more than that. Many seem to be operating under the notion that this statement—

when you consider a smart phone versus water, they don’t mix.

—is not merely circumstantial, but is an inherent eternal rule. It’s not. A phone can be designed and made to be completely safe to use in the shower, just like other devices that are currently safe to use in the shower. The xr is not that phone, but that’s merely what the OP was trying to find out.
And some seem to have an even deeper problem with one using a phone in the shower even if it is safe, and this I find overly judgemental at best, completely illogical at worst.

So you are making a case for showering with phone because someone wants to listen to music?

First off shouldn’t a person use both hands when washing themselves. Phone does not soap you up well.

Second, when I shower and listen to music I leave phone on counter with volume up. If that’s not loud enough then wear AirPods in shower.

I know they are not water resistant, that’s what plastic bag is for. Put AirPods in ears, turn on music, place plastic bag over head, secure around neck.

Great music experience and added bonus won’t see as many weird threads any more.

Besides if something unfortunate happens is responsibility of plastic bag manufacturer. Did they have vent holes in plastic bag, or print label on bag warning against such use, In four languages and Braille.

Mainly I’m making the case for answering people’s (fair) questions and letting them make their own judgments, which some here have, to their credit. But yes, if it’s safe (the question), I also think it’s fine to listen to audio while showering, and it’s more convenient to have controls next to you than 5 feet away, should you want to change songs/podcasts/etc, or rewind to hear something you’ve missed, etc. I think it’s also fine to keep it handy just to record a spontaneous idea. And even if someone wants to do more than that, things that I don’t think are “normal”, I really wouldn’t care.

I imagine one would want to put it on a shower caddie or something, rather than hold it.

Yes, you can always put it in a plastic bag or waterproof case.

 

[HEK]

I agree, some here are coming down hard on the OP for simply not knowing what they know (overly harshly imo). But many of the reactions here stem from more than that. Many seem to be operating under the notion that this statement——is not merely circumstantial, but is an inherent eternal rule. It’s not. A phone can be designed and made to be completely safe to use in the shower, just like other devices that are currently safe to use in the shower. The xr is not that phone, but that’s merely what the OP was trying to find out.
And some seem to have an even deeper problem with one using a phone in the shower even if it is safe, and this I find overly judgemental at best, completely illogical at worst.



Mainly I’m making the case for answering people’s (fair) questions and letting them make their own judgments, which some here have, to their credit. But yes, if it’s safe (the question), I also think it’s fine to listen to audio while showering, and it’s more convenient to have controls next to you than 5 feet away, should you want to change songs/podcasts/etc, or rewind to hear something you’ve missed, etc. I think it’s also fine to keep it handy just to record a spontaneous idea. And even if someone wants to do more than that, things that I don’t think are “normal”, I really wouldn’t care.

I imagine one would want to put it on a shower caddie or something, rather than hold it.

Yes, you can always put it in a plastic bag or waterproof case.

As first world problem, this ranks way up there near top of the list.

If a person has enough money to buy top line phone, which in my estimation should place them in semi-literate group. Has free time to ponder this question and join a forum making this their first question/thread ever.

Well it begs credulity that they could not come up with plastic bag answer or realize it’s not best thing to do to phone. Major clue being expressly stated that liquid damage not under warranty.

Seems that any answer, even sarcastic ones are what OP was seeking.

 

[subjonas]

As first world problem, this ranks way up there near top of the list.

If a person has enough money to buy top line phone, which in my estimation should place them in semi-literate group. Has free time to ponder this question and join a forum making this their first question/thread ever.

Well it begs credulity that they could not come up with plastic bag answer or realize it’s not best thing to do to phone. Major clue being expressly stated that liquid damage not under warranty.

Seems that any answer, even sarcastic ones are what OP was seeking.

The “first world problems” remark is commonly used, and while true, it applies to pretty much every thread in this site and adds nothing of value. I’d think the OP knows a plastic bag is an option, but might want to know if it was a necessary step. Not everyone knows water resistance ratings, and what is explicitly stated in warranties. But everyone does see advertisements of iPhones being drenched with water. It’s perfectly fine and even wise to come into a forum asking for more information.

 

[AppleHaterLover]

Most of us (I hope, see thread title) can understand why water damage isn’t covered. It sounds good to hold them accountable, but the idea of some water resistance benefits everybody.

Why tempt fate is beyond me.

This is basic consumer respect. How can you advertise a feature which you absolutely won’t guarantee works?


This is the same as Chevrolet advertising and selling you a track-ready Camaro - and when you take it to the track, the airbags go off when driving fast. You take it to them and they say they say “well you took it to the track”.

No **** Sherlock.

This is very ****** behavior on Apple’s part.

 

[I7guy]

This is basic consumer respect. How can you advertise a feature which you absolutely won’t guarantee works?

The phones aren't advertised as water-proof, they are advertised as water resistant. The reason all phone companies can get away with it, is the warranty doesn't water damage. Water resistance benefits everybody, but it's not water proofing.

This is the same as Chevrolet advertising and selling you a track-ready Camaro - and when you take it to the track, the airbags go off when driving fast. You take it to them and they say they say “well you took it to the track”.

No **** Sherlock.

This is very ****** behavior on Apple’s part.

Okay, but all manufacturers have virtually the same warranty with respect to water resistance. Remember the Samsung champagne commercial that was pulled?

 

[C DM]

Well, I see you couldn't just answer the question, so that's that.

Using a phone in the shower is stupid and the vast majority of humanity would tend to agree.

They do have shower readios that many people make use of, while I'm sure many others wouldn't even imagine the idea.

None of that is to support the use of a phone in a shower, just to point out what some might or might not think of or consider isn't necessarily meaningful one way or another just based on that essentially.
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The phones aren't advertised as water-proof, they are advertised as water resistant. The reason all phone companies can get away with it, is the warranty doesn't water damage. Water resistance benefits everybody, but it's not water proofing.


Okay, but all manufacturers have virtually the same warranty with respect to water resistance. Remember the Samsung champagne commercial that was pulled?

Not sure what the point of pointing out IP68 or some other rating is in contexts like that if all that is meant, or is supposed to imply nothing more than resistance.

 

[I7guy]

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Not sure what the point of pointing out IP68 or some other ratings is in contexts like that if all that is meant or is supposed to be implied is nothing more than resistance.

You have a point. Citing a rating, like ip68 is more meaningful than citing water resistance, which is fairly obtuse. Ip68 is of course, slightly more resistant in theory than ip67 but maybe not in real life. Ip68 provides some context around the parameters of water resistance, but doesn’t erase the disconnect between that metric and the warranty.

 

[eyeseeyou]

Ive taken my XR into the sauna countless times with no issues....so far

Ymmv

 

[44267547]

I’d think the OP knows a plastic bag is an option, but might want to know if it was a necessary step.

Believe me, I’m not trying to single you out here, but do you see the irony in your post? Why would a rational person bring a phone in the shower with them, but yet Place the phone in a plastic bag? Which shows you that they are conscious they don’t want their phone to get wet? So why bring the phone in the shower with you in the first place if you have to use a plastic bag? That’s completely counter-productive.

 

[subjonas]

Believe me, I’m not trying to single you out here, but do you see the irony in your post? Why would a rational person bring a phone in the shower with them, but yet Place the phone in a plastic bag? Which shows you that they are conscious they don’t want their phone to get wet? So why bring the phone in the shower with you in the first place if you have to use a plastic bag? That’s completely counter-productive.

Do you feel that waterproof cases are also counter-productive?

 

[44267547]

Do you feel that waterproof cases are also counter-productive?

I see you skirted the question, regardless, we’re not talking about cases, you mentioned bringing a phone into a shower utilizing a plastic bag, Fact is, that’s counterproductive actually be able use the phone if it’s in a plastic bag, that’s where the irony is in your previous post. (As in, The purpose of bringing a phone in the shower, would be actually using the phone, am I right?)